Final AP Poll is out; Pitt finishes 22nd
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Your reading comprehension needs work. Nobody is whining about the number. They are rightly whining about being ranked directly below a team we just beat while being seriously short handed.
Speaking of reading comprehension, that was what he was talking about..every one is whining because the pollsters did not do a nationwide 72 hour intense deep dive into the Pitt/UCLA matchup when all they did was drop the #17 four spots for a close loss and brought Pitt up about 6 spots for a nice win as it has been done with polls since the days of the cavemen. Odd quirk when averaged out from all the pollsters, but so what? His point I think was 22 or 21, Pitt or UCLA, what the hell is the difference...no rightly whining, just whining.
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If we want to be ranked higher we should beat Georgia Tech
The problem isn't that most people ranked UCLA ahead of Pitt. Most voters had Pitt slightly ahead of UCLA. The issue is that there are a handful of voters with this heads up their asses who didn't rank Pitt at all, but did rank UCLA.
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The problem isn't that most people ranked UCLA ahead of Pitt. Most voters had Pitt slightly ahead of UCLA. The issue is that there are a handful of voters with this heads up their asses who didn't rank Pitt at all, but did rank UCLA.
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Actually, I'm wrong. There are more than a handful of dolts who had UCLA ranked ahead of Pitt.
Ain't it funny how quiet things get when Pitt has something positive happen?
One voter had Duke ahead of us. Duke had the same record as Pitt, lost the head to head, and had the 104th toughest schedule in the country. Their bowl game/9th win was also against an unranked team. Terrible vote.
Same dude also had Fresno State (a record of 1-2 against Power Five teams or 1-3 if you include independent UConn) and UCLA ahead of Pitt:
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Same dude also had Fresno State (a record of 1-2 against Power Five teams or 1-3 if you include independent UConn) and UCLA ahead of Pitt:
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Really? I never knew that.
File this one under “Eat shit. A million flies can’t be wrong”.
Yeah and it's not like you can look at those voters and say bias of some type. You've got writers from each of the P5 conferences among the 8 people that didn't vote Pitt in the top 25. I mean, what are the odds of that?The problem isn't that most people ranked UCLA ahead of Pitt. Most voters had Pitt slightly ahead of UCLA. The issue is that there are a handful of voters with this heads up their asses who didn't rank Pitt at all, but did rank UCLA.
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We didn't have a lot of flashy wins this year (Tennessee game would have been huge for the resume) but Pitt absolutely should have been ranked above UCLA (head to head, same record, similar strength of schedule); Duke (won head to head, 104th ranked schedule); and Fresno State (95th ranked schedule, 0-2 in regular season against Power Five teams.) The more I look at that guy's ballot the more I wonder what the hell he was thinking.
The only one I SORT OF see the argument for is UCLA due to a slightly superior SoS, but...we just beat them in the bowl game without the starting QB and star RB?
The only one I SORT OF see the argument for is UCLA due to a slightly superior SoS, but...we just beat them in the bowl game without the starting QB and star RB?
The Massey composite unfortunately currently agrees though (Although Massey has Pitt at 26 and ULCA at 40). The vast majority of the results don't even have Pitt in the top 25. But a significantly reduced Pitt team beat UCLA, so I'm sure that will be made very clear to those that matter to the future of the program.
Despite all the talk about SEC Bias, Mississippi is listed top 25 by a lot of computers. Probably most. And exactly 0 human voters. I am pretty sure in a neutral site game, they would be favored against #24 Fresno.
Sometimes it feels like some of the G5 ratings are a bit of charity, not reality.
If you had told me before the season we’d have ended the year at 22, I’d have taken it. It’s not too bad of a drop considering what we lost.
That being said, I think top 25 is quickly becoming the new bar here. Hopefully the of 7 win seasons aren’t coming back.
That being said, I think top 25 is quickly becoming the new bar here. Hopefully the of 7 win seasons aren’t coming back.
Pitt and UCLA both lost 4 games. Three of Pitt's losses were to unranked teams, while only 1 of UCLA's losses was to an unranked team. They both won 9 games. One of Pitt's wins was over a ranked team - UCLA. Two of UCLA's wins were ever ranked teams - Utah and Washington. It is reasonable to say that UCLA's body of work was better than Pitt's. I don't necessarily agree that it was, especially when you consider that Pitt beat UCLA, but it is certainly debatable.
By the way, Pitt's win over UCLA came down to one play - Ben Sauls making the field goal at the end. Without that one play, we are not having this discussion - Pitt would be unranked.
You mean like the one he made vs the Vols…..body of work you know….one play, you know?
When Pitt was 4-4 if you had told me that Pitt would win the next 5 games and be ranked at the end of the year, I would have said you were crazy.
Well that’s exactly what happened and I am thrilled. There isn’t a whole lot of difference between number 21 and number 22. Be happy!
Like someone already said, if you want Pitt to be ranked higher, then they need to beat GT.
Well that’s exactly what happened and I am thrilled. There isn’t a whole lot of difference between number 21 and number 22. Be happy!
Like someone already said, if you want Pitt to be ranked higher, then they need to beat GT.
Pitt should've finished ahead of UCLA and I'd argue over Troy as well. Either way, another top-25 finish is a step in the right direction and I believe there's optimism moving forward.
Pitt finishes #22 in the Coaches Poll as well:
How could anyone vote one 9-4 team over another 9-4 team despite losing to them?
Also, not sure how you could vote TCU #2. I'd go Bama 2, TCU 3, Mich 4, OSU 5
Actually it makes a lot of sense. Pitt beat them head to head and to me, that shows that Pitt is the better team.
This is the problem when you bring in the idea of using polls to determine the best team.
Those games like GT this year and Western Michigan last year are the thorns in the program's side. Have to get those cleaned up. I understand that the team was pretty hobbled for the GT game this year but you have to find ways to win that one.
Good post. Sums my thought as well. Salvaged what looked to be a doomed season at midpoint. Happy overall. But shaking my head at what could have been if the coaches had felt more urgency to do what was critical (aka, lift Slovis) in that GT game.
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We should be at the point where we win the games we are supposed to win and split the toss up games. We did that two years ago and didn't do it this year. We really should have been 10-2 at the end of the regular season with a possible Coastal Championship against a beatable Clemson team and a better bowl game. I agree its great we ran the table from 4-4 but this year with our schedule should have been so much better.
