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If memory serves me, the Russel Athletic Bowl wanted the Brawl last year too, until Pitt spit the bit versus Miami. This year they get a second crack at it. I think it makes too much sense.
 
Again, no thanks. Do we really want to see our D exposed and ANOTHER QB throws for 500 yds & 5 TD's?? And if their RB went for 300+ vs. OU, what's he gonna do against us??? I'll stick with a plodding B1G team in Yankee Stadium as my pick...

WVU is a terrible matchup for us but so what. I'd rather take my chances vs WVU than freeze my @$$ off watching us play North freaking Western.....who we joke about but could actually beat us.
 
Again, no thanks. Do we really want to see our D exposed and ANOTHER QB throws for 500 yds & 5 TD's?? And if their RB went for 300+ vs. OU, what's he gonna do against us??? I'll stick with a plodding B1G team in Yankee Stadium as my pick...
So what, it's an exhibition. have some fun, get a rival opponent, sh*t talk for a few weeks, get local media excited about it..
 
They are giving up 173 rushing yards per game. We may have trouble stopping them but I sure as hell know they wouldn't be able to stop us.
 
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Again, no thanks. Do we really want to see our D exposed and ANOTHER QB throws for 500 yds & 5 TD's?? And if their RB went for 300+ vs. OU, what's he gonna do against us??? I'll stick with a plodding B1G team in Yankee Stadium as my pick...

Oklahoma's run D is much worse than ours (this past week not withstanding).
 
We defeated a team QB-ed by Deshawn Watson - in his home stadium.

Watson is a much better QB than Howard.

And Clemson has a much better defense than WVU.

WVU might score a lot against us.... but we'll score even more against them.
 
Pitt can't stop anyone, but there are few teams in the entire country that can stop them either. I really want a win and I want people watching to see how good of a team Pitt is. Personally, I just hope it's the RA because I want to travel to a bowl game with warm weather.
 
Pitt stopped Clemson in their tracks. I get your point but that's a far cry from not being able to stop anyone.
 
A couple games even our run defense has looked bad, but for the most part they have been good and it's only been the pass defense struggling.

As for the bowl we go to, I think it's definitely RA vs. WVU or the Pinstripe Bowl vs. Big Ten. I would prefer to play Stanford in the Sun Bowl just to see that matchup, but I think either of the other two are far more likely.
 
I'm not sure who you are replying to, but we gave up 42 points to Clemson. How does that equate to "stopped Clemson in their tracks"?

clemson scored 0 points in the 4th quarter. pitt did stop clemson in its tracks, eventually.
 
I'm not sure who you are replying to, but we gave up 42 points to Clemson. How does that equate to "stopped Clemson in their tracks"?
I think he was referring to 3rd-and-1 and 4th-and-1 on the final Clemson drive.
 
clemson scored 0 points in the 4th quarter. pitt did stop clemson in its tracks, eventually.
Maybe that is what he means. However, we still gave up almost 100 yards on 2 sustained drives. One ended on a pick in the end zone and the other when we stopped them on back to back runs. I guess we may just define that a lot different.

I think he was referring to 3rd-and-1 and 4th-and-1 on the final Clemson drive.
Yeah, could be. Still can't believe they ran it twice. What a couple of huge plays by the Pitt D.
 
I'm not sure who you are replying to, but we gave up 42 points to Clemson. How does that equate to "stopped Clemson in their tracks"?

Clemson in 4th qtr- two punts an int and a turnover on downs, so more specifically, in the 4th quarter, Pitt stopped Clemson in their tracks.

28 pts given up in the first two quarters was then cut in half in the last two. Most of the time, this season the criticism of the defense was warranted but not against Clemson. Taking it a step further, they conceded one touchdown to duke in the first quarter and shut them out after.
 
Clemson in 4th qtr- two punts an int and a turnover on downs, so more specifically, in the 4th quarter, Pitt stopped Clemson in their tracks.

28 pts given up in the first two quarters was then cut in half in the last two. Most of the time, this season the criticism of the defense was warranted but not against Clemson. Taking it a step further, they conceded one touchdown to duke in the first quarter and shut them out after.
3 possessions, 2 good drives, and 100 yards doesn't translate that way to me, just because we made that interception and Clemson ran the ball unsuccessfully twice. We played better, but we were still getting moved down the field. Watson was 15-20 in the 4th quarter. I think we can all love that stop and the win, but at the time agree the Clemson play calling on 3rd/4th and 1 was unbelievable with how they were killing us, even in the 4th quarter with the lead, through the air.
 
Again, no thanks. Do we really want to see our D exposed and ANOTHER QB throws for 500 yds & 5 TD's?? And if their RB went for 300+ vs. OU, what's he gonna do against us??? I'll stick with a plodding B1G team in Yankee Stadium as my pick...
Northwestern. Why?
 
Only thing I wonder about WVU is how we'd do against that 3-3-5 stack since we haven't seen it. X and O guys - what's your guess about our offense versus the stack?
 
Pain. Lol wvu is used to playing high powered offenses they are good enough to slow you down and as long as they don't turn it over they will score early and often
 
Pain. Lol wvu is used to playing high powered offenses they are good enough to slow you down and as long as they don't turn it over they will score early and often
Common opponent OSU - Pitt was tied late in the game and had the ball. OSU easily handled WV.
 
Clemson played the 4th Qtr like they had no respect for Pitt. I'm still amazed they didn't try to run the ball near the goal line, either pick up a TD, or run some clock & kick a FG... either way, that pretty much closes the game out.

I'm glad they played it the way they did though.
 
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Only thing I wonder about WVU is how we'd do against that 3-3-5 stack since we haven't seen it. X and O guys - what's your guess about our offense versus the stack?


I think we'd stuff the ball down their throat. If they think Oklahoma's line was tough to deal with what would our line do to that D line. It would look like the Pinstripe Bowl game against Syracuse whe Cuse stuffed the ball down their throat. A game against WVU may break the total point record we just set.
 
They are a good team but they aren't as good as their ranking for most of the year. Would definitely be a high scoring game as I doubt either team can stop the other.

Is Shell injured or has he been passed on the depth chart?
 
WVU's defense is designed to stop spread offenses that the Big 12 features. James Conner would run all over them. The complete lack of confidence some of you have in this Pitt team is weak.
 
Pitt had a lot of injuries on D vs Cuse. Hopefully by the time the bowl game comes around, we get some starters back. Our offense has been lethal the last 3 games. I like our chances against anyone. I want a quality win for the bowl game. Yes, any win will do, but against a good team would be icing on the cake.
 
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Horrid, disgraceful performance on D v. the Orange. That said, best performance of the season on D just a week before in limiting Duke to a single offensive touchdown. In truth, both were likely anomalies. Pitt's not sound enough to hold anyone to single TD and, while bad, they're certainly not nearly as bad as they performed v. Syracuse.

For everyone still making excuses for Clemson, I'm glad I never went to that "safe place" some warned fans to retreat to before the game. Otherwise, I wouldn't have enjoyed what's been the upset of the season thus far.
 
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Only thing I wonder about WVU is how we'd do against that 3-3-5 stack since we haven't seen it. X and O guys - what's your guess about our offense versus the stack?

I would wonder how WVU's D, which is very very good will be able to stop Pitt considering they faced 12 spread offenses this year (maybe 11, cant remember if Pelini runs a spread at YSU). A pro-style offense that does what we do is foreign to them.
 
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I would wonder how WVU's D, which is very very good will be able to stop Pitt considering they faced 12 spread offenses this year (maybe 11, cant remember if Pelini runs a spread at YSU). A pro-style offense that does what we do is foreign to them.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see what our offense would do against that 3-3-5. That is not a defense designed to play against the pro-style. Of course Alabama runs a similar defense for their base package and does pretty well against the run, but they have Day 1 & 2 draft picks all along their DL.
 
Pain. Lol wvu is used to playing high powered offenses they are good enough to slow you down and as long as they don't turn it over they will score early and often

That's true but it is too shallow to put all "high-powered offenses" in the same basket. The way Pitt plays offense is totally different than the way any team in the Big 12 plays offense.

Hell, I don't think any other team in the country plays a similar type of offense as Pitt. It is basically a modernized Wing-T offense.

Maybe the closest comparison I can make is Georgia Tech or Navy in that, like those teams, we have a ton of action and eye candy all over the field. However, even those are bad examples because we have a much more dangerous vertical passing game than do those teams.

The Panthers just scored 76 points on NINE pass completions (and just 56 offensive plays). We are averaging more than 43 points per game by doing that pretty much every single week. Remember, we are not running 80 and 90 plays per game like most high scoring teams do. We are doing it at a much more deliberate pace.

Who in the Big 12 plays that way?

Honestly, I believe that both teams would struggle to stop the other and it would be another shitshow for all concerned.

I have no idea who would win that match up, but I feel very confident in predicting that both teams would struggle mightily in stopping the other.
 
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Clemson played the 4th Qtr like they had no respect for Pitt. I'm still amazed they didn't try to run the ball near the goal line, either pick up a TD, or run some clock & kick a FG... either way, that pretty much closes the game out.

I'm glad they played it the way they did though.

I agree entirely. After the game, some of their fans complained about the officiating but they should've complained about the play calling and the in-play decision-making by their coaches and players.

I don't think it dawned on them until the very end that they could even lose that game. That's a very dangerous mindset and will get you beat.

Not only the Watson interception with five minutes left, but the decision to go for it on fourth down at the end was absolutely crazy.

They should have DEFINITELY punted the ball there and made us travel further. I don't think we could've possibly made it.

After we stopped Gallman on third down, I fully expected them to punt. When they lined up to go for it on fourth down, I distinctly remember thinking they were just going to try to draw us offside. There was no way in hell they would actually snap the football because that was basically our only opportunity to win.

Or so I thought...

When they (insanely) snapped the ball – and ran a pitch out to boot – I remember thinking as the play was happening, "Holy hell! They may be handing us this game!"

After we stopped them, you could see how stunned everyone was and it was very clear before we ran our first offensive play that we were going to have a great chance to win that game.

Unbelievable!
 
The decision to go for it on 4th down was insane. They were basically willing to put the outcome in jeopardy on one play, when they didn't have to. Had they punted, they still would have had a huge advantage. Arrogance cost them, and Pitt made them pay in for it in a big way.

I reminded me some of the USC/Texas Rose bowl.
 
I agree entirely. After the game, some of their fans complained about the officiating but they should've complained about the play calling and the in-play decision-making by their coaches and players.

I don't think it dawned on them until the very end that they could even lose that game. That's a very dangerous mindset and will get you beat.

Not only the Watson interception with five minutes left, but the decision to go for it on fourth down at the end was absolutely crazy.

They should have DEFINITELY punted the ball there and made us travel further. I don't think we could've possibly made it.

After we stopped Gallman on third down, I fully expected them to punt. When they lined up to go for it on fourth down, I distinctly remember thinking they were just going to try to draw us offside. There was no way in hell they would actually snap the football because that was basically our only opportunity to win.

Or so I thought...

When they (insanely) snapped the ball – and ran a pitch out to boot – I remember thinking as the play was happening, "Holy hell! They may be handing us this game!"

After we stopped them, you could see how stunned everyone was and it was very clear before we ran our first offensive play that we were going to have a great chance to win that game.

Unbelievable!

My guess is there is a 90% chance to make a 4th and 1. You do that, game over. You punt it and it goes in the endzone, all you did was gain 10 yards of field position. Of course, it could have worked out where they pinned us at the 1 but what if it didn't?

Be aggressive. If Pitt is ever in a position to win a game by gaining 1 yard, I hope we go for it also.
 
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