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Fuel and Fuddle

Gonna go out on a limb and call this an apocryphal story not representative of the restaurant and it’s owner.
The manager and staff are the front line representatives of the ownership, so yes it does accurately represent the ownership.
 
I haven't been to Fuel and Fuddle in about 15 years, when I was going to eat there until I saw a Health Dept warning on the door.

There could be 1000 reasons why someone could be eating in Oakland but might not be able to go to the game. I've driven past Heinz Field on the Fort Duquesne Bridge during a Steelers game and nobody questioned why I was listening on the radio instead of stopping in to watch.

On the other hand, the OP revealed too much by saying he was eventually thrown out. He may have been drunk enough to think he was actually politely asking to have the channel changed. Probably wasn't as politely as he thinks.
 
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Loving Pitt isn’t a prerequisite for a restaurant manager, even in Oakland. But announcing out loud you hate Pitt should be a disqualifier
 
Loving Pitt isn’t a prerequisite for a restaurant manager, even in Oakland. But announcing out loud you hate Pitt should be a disqualifier
The current owner also bought the place in 2014 after having worked there since he was 19 years old. Pretty sure he’s an alum, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that ownership hates Pitt.
 
I had a similar experience way way back at a sports bar in Virginia Beach. Probably mid 90s. Not in the tourist part of Virginia Beach, but the strip mall part of Virginia Beach. (There are only two parts lol).
This was a new place only open for a few weeks. "Sports bar" in the name. Thought I'd check it out for a game. So went with my wife for dinner and to watch a Pens-Caps playoff game. They had screens everywhere. They had a vacant upstairs section with screens everywhere. There were three tables occupied, and a couple people at the bar. I asked politely a few minutes before the game if they could put the hockey on. They said "sure". One if the tables was occupied by four people, two were wearing Caps jerseys.
Come game time, asked again and was told the manager wouldn't let them change the tv. Most of the TV's had Matlock on. I asked them to cancel the food order. I paid, slammed my beer and we went to the Steelers bar that was down by the beach. Never went back. They were closed in a couple of months. I called it the "Matlock" bar after that.
 
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Mango flavored beer?

If that does warrant a WTF, I’m not sure what does.

Does the average Trans Am driving, WDVE listening Yinzer know what a Mango is?
It always struck me a weird choice for the Iron City brand as well; but it's been on the market for a decade now, so it must be selling alright.
 
If you define “blast” as being so obnoxiously drunk in public that some 25 years old restaurant manager throws me out-
No - I’m not a blast .

When I’m drunk I try to be especially courteous and polite to the folks serving my food and drinks - so they will continue to do that .
Then tip generously

Because I’m an adult with a good paying job - who treats others with common courtesy .
I think you drink with your pinky out.
 
It always struck me a weird choice for the Iron City brand as well; but it's been on the market for a decade now, so it must be selling alright.
A decade? Wow, I guess their marketing guys know more than I do.

I’m not sure I’d try that, though. Even on a dare.
 
BTW I read your early post regarding VA Beach, I hated sailing in there
It's a strange place. Has really grown since I was there. If the local governments could collaborate, they could do great things there. Pretty big population base in Tidewater, but all separate cities.
I trained at NMC Portsmouth. Was great training. We were taught to handle anything and everything. I didn't realize it at the time, but was very fortunate to be there.
 
It's a strange place. Has really grown since I was there. If the local governments could collaborate, they could do great things there. Pretty big population base in Tidewater, but all separate cities.
I trained at NMC Portsmouth. Was great training. We were taught to handle anything and everything. I didn't realize it at the time, but was very fortunate to be there.
Yes the training facilities are awesome. Our cousins have a really cool condo in Norfolk. But you are right the area is all over the place. For being a sailor in a sub it was not a good port. Groton was a better port.
 
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Yes the training facilities are awesome. Our cousins have a really cool condo in Norfolk. But you are right the area is all over the place. For being a sailor in a sub it was not a good port. Groton was a better port.
I spent some TAD at NSMRL Groton. If I didn't select through straight to specialty training, I was going to become a UMO.
 
The manager and staff are the front line representatives of the ownership, so yes it does accurately represent the ownership.
So when a restaurant manager makes an offhand comment voicing a personal bias to a customer, that same personal bias is imputed to the owner.

Got it. That makes a ton of sense.
 
Mango flavored beer?

If that does warrant a WTF, I’m not sure what does.

Does the average Trans Am driving, WDVE listening Yinzer know what a Mango is?
When I was young and in my 20’s, Iron City had their line of “micros” called Evil Eye. They had Evil Eye Honey Brown, Evil Eye Rasberry Wheat, and others. I enjoyed them. I have to wonder if I’d enjoy them today.
 
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So when a restaurant manager makes an offhand comment voicing a personal bias to a customer, that same personal bias is imputed to the owner.

Got it. That makes a ton of sense.
Or perhaps you should take with a large grain of salt an anonymous complaint from a dude who not only admits the game was on tv- but got thrown out -
As not exactly a reliable narrator ?
 
I apologize why subs?
I liked respiratory physiology. More diving than subs though. I did do chamber dives and sub escape training while there. As a researcher and future Navy doc, they wanted us to understand the operational environments that you worked and lived in.
 
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I haven't been to Fuel and Fuddle in about 15 years, when I was going to eat there until I saw a Health Dept warning on the door.

There could be 1000 reasons why someone could be eating in Oakland but might not be able to go to the game. I've driven past Heinz Field on the Fort Duquesne Bridge during a Steelers game and nobody questioned why I was listening on the radio instead of stopping in to watch.

On the other hand, the OP revealed too much by saying he was eventually thrown out. He may have been drunk enough to think he was actually politely asking to have the channel changed. Probably wasn't as politely as he thinks.
I sort of get your point, but have you ever walked into Bettis Grille during a Steeler game when Heinz was about 20% filled and decent tickets were available for $10 and then complained about the game not being on enough TVs? I mean, they were kicked out for drinking too much. Clearly they weren't due to start an ER shift at Presby that night.
 
Yes, yes you can.

Beer flows freely at the Pete these days. Now the selection of the beer....that's a different question.

Also have mobile ordering of food and drink these days...not that there are really lines for concessions.
Need something stronger than beer to survive watching that $hitshow in person!
 
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Yeah, the Squirrel Hill location is still there unless Covid took it out. I think there may be one or two in the suburbs.

I think originally someone involved with Sam's at least helped to start Fuel & Fuddle. I doubt there are any connections anymore.
yes i was a bartender at calico's for the Carey family who sold it to the manager of uncle sams next door to open fuel and fuddle. forgot his name but remenber his face
 
I understand the OP point to some degree and if the manager said that about Pitt, she shouldn’t have. But…. I get really disappointed when people give a 1 star to small businesses and say something like “food was really good and place is nice but I’m giving them a one star because they don’t offer free refills on soft drinks”
 
I sort of get your point, but have you ever walked into Bettis Grille during a Steeler game when Heinz was about 20% filled and decent tickets were available for $10 and then complained about the game not being on enough TVs? I mean, they were kicked out for drinking too much. Clearly they weren't due to start an ER shift at Presby that night.
I was thinking more pre- than post-game. Maybe they just got off a 7a to 7p ER shift at Presby and couldn't get there for the start. Maybe they arrived midway through the game. Or maybe the OP was the only one in the group who was a hoops fan. Maybe the plan was to go to dinner and they didn't want chicken strips and dip n dots.

Or maybe thinking about the reasonable thing to do wasn't in the cards for these guys on this night.

Drinking doesn't make you want to watch Pitt hoops, watching it makes you want to drink. Some of us might sip on a couple of nice IPAs during the game, but some of us want to hammer down several six packs of IC Light Mango.
 
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