Gus Johnson and the healing

[ratking17]

TD, there is a reason everyone refers to you as TD nitter. you defend them and jimmy at every turn. the original post I made was in reference to gus Johnson talking about the community healing. it is offensive to every victim to assume that they have healed.

 

[CrazyPaco]

First off, a sexual predator is a person. It isn't a football program, a school, or even culture. PSU's administration isn't the first institution to drop the ball on a case like this and they certainly won't be the last. The 'football first' culture wasn't created by Joe Paterno. It's pretty much an American problem. Ya know, a certain NFL QB in Pittsburgh may or may not have had inappropriate behavior with women in the past. I have no clue what happened, but it certainly seemed suspicious at the time.

Secondly, just because someone is a victim of sexual abuse should in no way imply that their life is 'destroyed'. It's traumatic, but many victims work through it and go on to live happy, healthy, productive lives.

Drop the ball? They are one of the few institutions, along with the Catholic Church, that I'm aware that has actively hid the sexual predation of children in order to protect the image and function of an institution, not to mention it was for something as frivolous as sport. That active suppression of these heinous crimes took place from the lowest to the highest levels of the institution, and was absolutely enabled by the fanbase's gobbling of self-righteous propaganda, cult of personality worship, and the institution's culture of rigorously suppressing any deviation from the official narrative at the cost of people's careers and reputations. Your comments and desire to excuse the massive problems that enabled decades of serial child rape by equivocating it with other incidents shows loud and clear what type of individual you are. It is simply not ok, or at all true, to brush it off as something that happens elsewhere, because that is false and dangerous. You show how little you understand about the issue, how you and how your are right there with disgusting, card member carrying members of the cult lobbying for restoration of what they value as more important than children's lives. You're just as a flat out, disgusting individual.

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Breeze90]

A lot of crying today for Pitt … when in doubt always reverting back to the default Joe / Sandusky comments

 

[CaptainMurphy]

A lot of crying today for Pitt … when in doubt always reverting back to the default Joe / Sandusky comments

Lol...who is crying? What could we possibly be crying about? That we kept PSU out of the CFP? That we beat two conference champs?

 

[CrazyPaco]

A lot of crying today for Pitt … when in doubt always reverting back to the default Joe / Sandusky comments

As if what happened there should be forgotten because you won a football game. All is right with the world now. Status quo from your fanbase.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

First off, a sexual predator is a person. It isn't a football program, a school, or even culture. PSU's administration isn't the first institution to drop the ball on a case like this and they certainly won't be the last. The 'football first' culture wasn't created by Joe Paterno. It's pretty much an American problem. Ya know, a certain NFL QB in Pittsburgh may or may not have had inappropriate behavior with women in the past. I have no clue what happened, but it certainly seemed suspicious at the time.

Secondly, just because someone is a victim of sexual abuse should in no way imply that their life is 'destroyed'. It's traumatic, but many victims work through it and go on to live happy, healthy, productive lives.

You are right, but you are also wrong, completely wrong and oversimplifying things on the PSU end.

Jerry Sandusky was a predator and guilty of these crimes. But we know for sure in 1998 he was investigated and the McQueary thing in 2002 and still nothing, nothing was ever done to try and apprehend and stop him. Hell, he brought a kid to the 2005 Orange Bowl and was staying with him. He was invited to sit in Spanier's box for Joe's 409th victory, well over months after the Grand Jury investigation and a week or so before he was indicted and arrested.

You don't think that is a problem? You think that would happen here? Do you think that would happen anywhere else?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The 'football first' culture wasn't created by Joe Paterno.

At Penn State it most certainly was. And surely you know that, so I wonder why you feel the need to pretend otherwise?

 

[TD_6082]

Drop the ball? They are one of the few institutions, along with the Catholic Church, that I'm aware that has actively hid the sexual predation of children in order to protect the image and function of an institution, not to mention it was for something as frivolous as sport. That active suppression of these heinous crimes took place from the lowest to the highest levels of the institution, and was absolutely enabled by the fanbase's gobbling of self-righteous propaganda, cult of personality worship, and the institution's culture of rigorously suppressing any deviation from the official narrative at the cost of people's careers and reputations. Your comments and desire to excuse the massive problems that enabled decades of enabling serial child rape by equivocating it with other incidents shows loud and clear what type of individual you are. It is simply not ok, or at all true, to brush it off as something that happens elsewhere, because that is false and dangerous. You show how little you understand about the issue, how you and how your are right there with disgusting, card member carrying members of the cult lobbying for restoration of what they value as more important than children's lives. You're just as a flat out, disgusting individual.

Welcome to my ignore list.

I didn't excuse it. It happened. It's horrible & it's history.

 

[TD_6082]

You are right, but you are also wrong, completely wrong and oversimplifying things on the PSU end.

Jerry Sandusky was a predator and guilty of these crimes. But we know for sure in 1998 he was investigated and the McQueary thing in 2002 and still nothing, nothing was ever done to try and apprehend and stop him. Hell, he brought a kid to the 2005 Orange Bowl and was staying with him. He was invited to sit in Spanier's box for Joe's 409th victory, well over months after the Grand Jury investigation and a week or so before he was indicted and arrested.

You don't think that is a problem? You think that would happen here? Do you think that would happen anywhere else?

Now you're getting down to the tricky part where the system fails. It's a very hard thing to apprehend and stop someone when you don't have enough hard evidence. Each and every day kids are released from state's custody and turned back over to live under the same roof as their abuser. Their counselors know it, their case workers know... legally, there is not a damn thing they can do. And the case at Penn State is just so much more complex because of the perp being a public figure & big cheese at Second Mile. Sure, there is plenty of blame to go around at PSU, but give the devil his due. When it came to being a sociopathic monster, Sandusky was a damn good one.

As for your questions at the bottom. 1) It is disturbing. 2 & 3) I would like to think not, but never say never.

It's impossible not to oversimplifly this case in writing or on a message board. I think there was an element involved to protect the image. I also think there was an element of hesitation and helplessness because they didn't know how to proceed. And that one is really tricky considering his position with Second Mile.

 

[ratking17]

Now you're getting down to the tricky part where the system fails. It's a very hard thing to apprehend and stop someone when you don't have enough hard evidence. Each and every day kids are released from state's custody and turned back over to live under the same roof as their abuser. Their counselors know it, their case workers know... legally, there is not a damn thing they can do. And the case at Penn State is just so much more complex because of the perp being a public figure & big cheese at Second Mile. Sure, there is plenty of blame to go around at PSU, but give the devil his due. When it came to being a sociopathic monster, Sandusky was a damn good one.

As for your questions at the bottom. 1) It is disturbing. 2 & 3) I would like to think not, but never say never.

It's impossible not to oversimplifly this case in writing or on a message board. I think there was an element involved to protect the image. I also think there was an element of hesitation and helplessness because they didn't know how to proceed. And that one is really tricky considering his position with Second Mile.

You need to shut up now. sorry, but underage kids showing in a locker room...enough said

 

[wbrpanther]

Check out @Deadspin's Tweet:

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The way he was unabashedly gushing over the nits during the broadcast made me want to puke. Way over the top.

 

[ncyajleel]

I used to give you the benefit of the doubt on your posts. But reading this statement I have come to realize you really are dense.

He was allowed to flourish BECAUSE of that culture and your comparison is as weak as most of your posts.

And you know their lives are not destroyed how? You have experience with this? I guarantee you don't. I know their lives are destroyed. You don't get over these things, you learn to deal with them so you can live with it. Time is a wonderful thing, it helps you gain distance but you never, ever forget. There is a huge difference.

First off, a sexual predator is a person. It isn't a football program, a school, or even culture. PSU's administration isn't the first institution to drop the ball on a case like this and they certainly won't be the last. The 'football first' culture wasn't created by Joe Paterno. It's pretty much an American problem. Ya know, a certain NFL QB in Pittsburgh may or may not have had inappropriate behavior with women in the past. I have no clue what happened, but it certainly seemed suspicious at the time.

Secondly, just because someone is a victim of sexual abuse should in no way imply that their life is 'destroyed'. It's traumatic, but many victims work through it and go on to live happy, healthy, productive lives.

 

[ncyajleel]

Bullshit!

Because I worked as a counselor for sexually abused children for several years.

 

[ncyajleel]

He is not saying that at all. By these last few posts though you have shown how clueless you truly are, you are now a fraud! You do not work with sexually abused children, you are full of it.

Are you saying 'victim of sexual abuse' should be their identity? Are you saying its healthy to go through life that way? It sure sounds like you are.

 

[ncyajleel]

Why would we cry? Pitt is the reason PoSU is NOT in the playoffs. They even mentioned on the show that you should not even schedule Pitt. We got more props on the show than PoSU did between beating you and Clemson.

You are a perfect example of why children were sexually abused for a quarter of a century there. The BIG championship means so much more to lowlifes like you.

A lot of crying today for Pitt … when in doubt always reverting back to the default Joe / Sandusky comments

 

[TD_6082]

He is not saying that at all. By these last few posts though you have shown how clueless you truly are, you are now a fraud! You do not work with sexually abused children, you are full of it.

I don't work in that field now. (Thank God) However I did for several years at the Universal Health Services Inc Level 3 facility in Nashville just off 8th Ave near old Greer Stadium. (Hermitage Hall)

Destroyed suggests defeated or finished. It sounds like you are saying that these people are incapable of overcoming trauma.

Let's just cut to the chase. There is an increase in the "remember the victims" posts when PSU accomplishes something on the football field. The same people saying that it shouldn't be about football, it should be about the victims make it all about football when they only bring this stuff up at times when PSU is successful. It's like if we can't play the coach sucks card, let's bring up sexual abuse. For a select few posters on here, there is an undertone to their posts that suggest they are GLAD the scandal happened at Penn State. That's painfully obvious and a little disturbing to be honest about it.

What is wrong with just saying that you hate PSU because we are rivals and root against them and leave it at that?

 

[ratking17]

I don't work in that field now. (Thank God) However I did for several years at the Universal Health Services Inc Level 3 facility in Nashville just off 8th Ave near old Greer Stadium. (Hermitage Hall)

Destroyed suggests defeated or finished. It sounds like you are saying that these people are incapable of overcoming trauma.

Let's just cut to the chase. There is an increase in the "remember the victims" posts when PSU accomplishes something on the football field. The same people saying that it shouldn't be about football, it should be about the victims make it all about football when they only bring this stuff up at times when PSU is successful. It's like if we can't play the coach sucks card, let's bring up sexual abuse. For a select few posters on here, there is an undertone to their posts that suggest they are GLAD the scandal happened at Penn State. That's painfully obvious and a little disturbing to be honest about it.

What is wrong with just saying that you hate PSU because we are rivals and root against them and leave it at that?

You didn't help jimmy delete certain cell phone videos and pictures a few years back did you?