Heinz Field / Carrier Dome II

[GreatBear71]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

 

[pittdrumz]

Narduzzi was adamantly opposed to tarping. Though I think once fans are allowed back in, he may not get a choice if it means additional revenue streams for the school.

 

[pittchagg]

A Carrier Dome II would mean that you’d have one venue that sucks for two sports, instead of one venue that’s great for one sport, and another venue that’s good for another sport that happens to be four miles away.

 

[ThePanthers]

The carrier dome sucks.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

Narduzzi doesn’t want tarps, he said schools would use it against Pitt on recruiting.

I doubt Rooney’s would even care enough to comment on it. Heinz field is easy to get in and out of, that’s its biggest and only redeeming quality. It’s why yinzer love it so much, we can leave early and be home on our couches 25 minutes after we leave.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was.

And that boat was the Titanic.

And now you know the rest of the story.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Narduzzi doesn’t want tarps, he said schools would use it against Pitt on recruiting.

Yeah, but they don't use all those empty yellow seats against us.

Smart, Pat. Smart.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Yeah, but they don't use all those empty yellow seats against us.

Smart, Pat. Smart.

Maybe I’m dull but isn’t it 6 of one half dozen of the other? If only 28k show up for some game are empty seats worse than tarps? Bottom line is asses in seats isn’t it? And I’m not being snarky.

Other than maybe perception on tv and it looking fuller maybe. But again, that doesn’t change how many people are there.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Narduzzi doesn’t want tarps, he said schools would use it against Pitt on recruiting.

I doubt Rooney’s would even care enough to comment on it. Heinz field is easy to get in and out of, that’s its biggest and only redeeming quality. It’s why yinzer love it so much, we can leave early and be home on our couches 25 minutes after we leave.

How could we tell based on his current recruiting ?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

How could we tell based on his current recruiting ?

It was a direct quote from him. Agree or disagree but that’s what he said.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Maybe I’m dull but isn’t it 6 of one half dozen of the other? If only 28k show up for some game are empty seats worse than tarps? Bottom line is asses in seats isn’t it? And I’m not being snarky.

Other than maybe perception on tv and it looking fuller maybe. But again, that doesn’t change how many people are there.

I don’t think tarps would help or hurt us on the recruiting front.

I do laugh at pitt fans who think herding everyone together will make us cheer louder and create a better ambience. That makes me laugh.

Oh and quit selling cheap seats and make everyone buy more expensive seats down low. That’s one way to help tix sakes from sn already cheap fan base.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Maybe I’m dull but isn’t it 6 of one half dozen of the other? If only 28k show up for some game are empty seats worse than tarps? Bottom line is asses in seats isn’t it? And I’m not being snarky.

Other than maybe perception on tv and it looking fuller maybe. But again, that doesn’t change how many people are there.

I agree, which is why I don't care a whole lot about whether they tarp or not. I would not be adverse to tarping (or even just not selling except for when demand warrants) the upper end zone seats where very few people sit anyway. But if there are 25,000 people there there are 25,000 people there, whether they are all spread out or all mashed together.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I don’t think tarps would help or hurt us on the recruiting front.

I do laugh at pitt fans who think herding everyone together will make us cheer louder and create a better ambience. That makes me laugh.

Oh and quit selling cheap seats and make everyone buy more expensive seats down low. That’s one way to help tix sakes from sn already cheap fan base.

After I posted above the only other reason that came to mind was trying to create demand. I don’t know what number would work but as it is anyone who wants to get a ticket can get one with a few exceptions here and there. Maybe at some lowered capacity it would make people think maybe I better buy season tickets.

And I guess maybe for games like PSU, ND, etc maybe they don’t tarp? Who knows.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I agree, which is why I don't care a whole lot about whether they tarp or not. I would not be adverse to tarping (or even just not selling except for when demand warrants) the upper end zone seats where very few people sit anyway. But if there are 25,000 people there there are 25,000 people there, whether they are all spread out or all mashed together.

It’s like when you are a kid and you don’t want to eat the pile of veggies on your dinner plate. So you thin it out my spreading them around so it makes it look like you ate most of them.

 

[Burgh15]

I do laugh at pitt fans who think herding everyone together will make us cheer louder and create a better ambience. That makes me laugh.

As a season ticket holder, I routinely watch fans who don't sit near anyone just watch Pitt like they're at a baseball game where fans that are in more populated sections are more active in cheering. I can also confidently say that the atmosphere created by the fans in the current seating arrangement sucks.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

As a season ticket holder, I routinely watch fans who don't sit near anyone just watch Pitt like they're at a baseball game where fans that are in more populated sections are more active in cheering. I can also confidently say that the atmosphere created by the fans in the current seating arrangement sucks.

Funny cause when I’m in a full section, I see a bunch of old heads screaming “down in front.”

Atmosphere is what it is, you won’t make anyone happier by making em sit where they don’t want to sit.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I don’t think tarps would help or hurt us on the recruiting front.

I do laugh at pitt fans who think herding everyone together will make us cheer louder and create a better ambience. That makes me laugh.

Oh and quit selling cheap seats and make everyone buy more expensive seats down low. That’s one way to help tix sakes from sn already cheap fan base.

Fans sitting closer together create a better atmosphere. Fans are into the game more when the place is crowded. You may not think so but its true. Tell MLS teams that having 20K people in a 20K seat stadium doesn't create a better atmosphere than 20K people spaced out in a 70K seat NFL stadium.

Speaking of MLS, ESPN has done an awesome job putting digital tarps over sections since no fans are allowed in most stadiums. I didn't even realize they were digital for awhile. They have team logos on them, sponsors, etc.

 

[DonDaJewla]

There’s no reason why Pitt shouldn’t be going into every WPIAL high school/jr high/elem, charitable organization, big brothers/big sisters, etc every week and giving away 15-20k tickets in the upper levels. Seats wouldn’t be sold anyway, more asses in seats, more concessions and merch being sold. More kids from schools at games u recruit more lifelong Pitt fans and inject some life into fan base. build strong WPIAL ties and strengthen that pipeline.

 

[HailToPitt725]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

Forget the Carrier Dome, imagine if they copied Tokyo’s Saitama Super Arena and its rolling seats. A literal two-in-one facility.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Steelers don't care.
Narduzzi said no.
City has zoning ordinances if 'exterior' advertising.

 

[NKSplitter]

Forget the Carrier Dome, imagine if they copied Tokyo’s Saitama Super Arena and its rolling seats. A literal two-in-one facility.

I'm indifferent to the idea of a stadium with rolling seats to use for both football and basketball; but I'm 100% in favor of renaming the Petersen Events Center to the Petersen Super Arena.

 

[Upg bobcat]

There’s no reason why Pitt shouldn’t be going into every WPIAL high school/jr high/elem, charitable organization, big brothers/big sisters, etc every week and giving away 15-20k tickets in the upper levels. Seats wouldn’t be sold anyway, more asses in seats, more concessions and merch being sold. More kids from schools at games u recruit more lifelong Pitt fans and inject some life into fan base. build strong WPIAL ties and strengthen that pipeline.

The problem is that in years when we play ND or PSU, season tickets for those seats are sold to fans of opposing teams -- so they actually are sold.

 

[Saboteur II]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

I always chuckle when I read how land is at a premium in a city with a population half the size of 40 years ago.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I always chuckle when I read how land is at a premium in a city with a population half the size of 40 years ago.

Saboteur, im far from an expert but i dont think this is too crazy of an idea. Real estate in oakland is like gold and as someone that works in the north shore area. that land is getting bought and eaten up very quickly too.. cant speak about other parts of the city but i dont think it's too crazy to say that real estate in oakland and north shore are defintely at a premium..

Not smart enough to compare it to 40 years ago with relation to city population. i agree, more people lived in city limits 40 years ago while suburbs in west and south of peters and north of pine didnt exist. now, city population is 1/2 and suburbs are three times bigger.

how or why city real estate is at a higher premium now compared to 70s/80's is above my intellectual level (go ahead, take a shot, i teed it up for you on that comment).

 

[pittdan77]

Saboteur, im far from an expert but i dont think this is too crazy of an idea. Real estate in oakland is like gold and as someone that works in the north shore area. that land is getting bought and eaten up very quickly too.. cant speak about other parts of the city but i dont think it's too crazy to say that real estate in oakland and north shore are defintely at a premium..

Not smart enough to compare it to 40 years ago with relation to city population. i agree, more people lived in city limits 40 years ago while suburbs in west and south of peters and north of pine didnt exist. now, city population is 1/2 and suburbs are three times bigger.

how or why city real estate is at a higher premium now compared to 70s/80's is above my intellectual level (go ahead, take a shot, i teed it up for you on that comment).

All real estate has gone up by very large percentages. Places like Oakland are only going to get worse.

 

[ThePanthers]

I always chuckle when I read how land is at a premium in a city with a population half the size of 40 years ago.

I dont know how one correlates with the other. There are businesses, hospitals, hotels, etc that is trying to get into those real estate areas.

Its expensive and rare.

 

[Saboteur II]

I dont know how one correlates with the other. There are businesses, hospitals, hotels, etc that is trying to get into those real estate areas.

Its expensive and rare.

Usually the areas with the highest population density is where real estate is at a premium. That is how they correlate.

 

[Saboteur II]

All real estate has gone up by very large percentages. Places like Oakland are only going to get worse.

I think a more correct answer is that since the City of Yinzerburgh Housing Authority owns so much property and the City planning commission controls so much that the ability to construct is severely restricted. You can only build certain things in certain areas. As for real estate being more expensive, just wait for the CBD sell off as companies don't renew leases.

 

[NTOP]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

Have you been to the Dome for a BB game? Awful unless you're sideline. Fans bring binoculars. A large portion of fans sit behind the bleachers to eat, drink and watch monitors. Heinz Field has as much atmosphere as an ICU with no patients, but it's only 7 or so games. Pitt screwed the pooch by letting the Stadium fall apart. Posvar & Bozik spent the $$ on cocktails??

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

I don’t think tarps would help or hurt us on the recruiting front.

I do laugh at pitt fans who think herding everyone together will make us cheer louder and create a better ambience. That makes me laugh.

Oh and quit selling cheap seats and make everyone buy more expensive seats down low. That’s one way to help tix sakes from sn already cheap fan base.

Acoustics are different when people are closer together. The noise is amplified. You will get a higher decibal when there is concentration as opposed to dispersion. Simple physics.

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

A Carrier Dome II would mean that you’d have one venue that sucks for two sports, instead of one venue that’s great for one sport, and another venue that’s good for another sport that happens to be four miles away.

Not unless you built a stade Pierre mauroy design. That definitely would not suck for basketball.

 

[ChooChoo Panther]

Maybe I’m dull but isn’t it 6 of one half dozen of the other? If only 28k show up for some game are empty seats worse than tarps? Bottom line is asses in seats isn’t it? And I’m not being snarky.

Other than maybe perception on tv and it looking fuller maybe. But again, that doesn’t change how many people are there.

Good point King. I generally agree with that saying, "Perceptions are reality and emotions are fact." If 38,000 fans attend a 68,000 capacity stadium, does it matter if it is tapped or not? It's still 38,000 attendance.

On the other hand, many don't believe the announced attendance number. The discussion centers on what it looks like.

Yes, 6 of one, half dozen of the other. I don't care either way.

 

[pittchagg]

Not unless you built a stade Pierre mauroy design. That definitely would not suck for basketball.

With a 27,000 capacity for basketball, I think it would absolutely suck for Pitt. We’d hear the same tarping suggestions we hear about Heinz Field now.

I don’t think it’s possible to have that type of design that would give an appropriate capacity for Pitt football (45-50k) and Pitt basketball (12k). Somebody’s gonna end up with a stadium that’s too big just based on the dimensions.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

On the other hand, many don't believe the announced attendance number.

To be fair, the reason that a lot of people don't believe the announced attendance numbers is because Pitt has a history of making numbers up that have no basis in the reality of either people actually there or tickets actually sold.

 

[ChooChoo Panther]

To be fair, the reason that a lot of people don't believe the announced attendance numbers is because Pitt has a history of making numbers up that have no basis in the reality of either people actually there or tickets actually sold.

That is fair.

 

[Jakey_John]

Seats during the Louisville game were tarped off this year because it was known none were coming. Narduzzi was the one who didn’t want tarps and Lyke agreed to not use them.

 

[anon_d97v9o3a8b6xr]

If we learned anything from COVID is that cardboard people look fairly real enough on tv. Invest in cardboard people to fill empty seats. Solves problem, hides the yellow, no tarps, stadium looks really full, and nobody to yell at you to sit down.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Tarps are being used now at all NFL games including Heinz Field.

"Tarp" Heinz Field down to 50,000 fans for all Pitt home football games, resulting in "Full" stadium view and atmosphere.

Perception is reality.

Easy and economical solution to improve Pitt "Game Day" perception/experience.

Really enjoy my "Club Seats" and all the Bars and Restaurants around Heinz Field for prior and post game partying. Driving to Heinz Field and parking is also great when compared to Old Pitt Stadium.

Nothing wrong with Heinz Field that "Tarps" can't fix.

Heather and the Pitt Administration need to seriously look at this subject.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[ThePanthers]

Usually the areas with the highest population density is where real estate is at a premium. That is how they correlate.

There are many factors that determine real estate prices. Try to purchase a large piece of real estate in Oakland. Its expensive.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

First, I love being at Heinz Field. The seats are very comfortable, and it is easy for parking and getting in and out.
I am writing because I remember Heather being in favor of tarping, and come the next season, she said they are not
going in that direction. Did the Steelers overrule? Does it take too much time on a weekend when Pitt and the Steelers
are there on the same weekend? Tarping the place to 50,000 would be perfect. Discuss.....

In regards to all the people who want to be in Oakland, Pitt missed the boat in not building a Carrier Dome II where old Pitt Stadium was. Land is at a premium in any urban area. Discuss...

We agree on this subject.

Now the Pitt Administration need to bring in consultants to make it happen.

Heinz Field capacity reduced to 50,000 fans for Pitt home games.

Perception is reality.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!