Yes the Carrier dome sucks, it will suck you right out of the building. Almost saw that happen when the doors open. LOL
Heinz Field / Carrier Dome II
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Tarps hide the yellow. Provide advertising revenue. Can create a good vibe and feel with messages. Strengthens and enhances the brand. Adds to the ambiance. It’s a no brainer unless you are heather because she owes her job to Narduzzi. Narduzzi is a meatball. Heather is the sauce.
I think a lot of the tarp thing depends on your background and perspective. It's been a pretty common practice in baseball over the years. I think the U has used some tarp in the endzones at HardRock, (Sun-Life, Landshark, or whatever the hell it is now)
It's sort of viewed as a big no-no in college towns. But maybe the practice would be more commonly accepted in a post-covid environment. At least I think it would lessen the concerns about opposing schools using it against you in recruiting.
It's sort of viewed as a big no-no in college towns. But maybe the practice would be more commonly accepted in a post-covid environment. At least I think it would lessen the concerns about opposing schools using it against you in recruiting.
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I love the Carrier Dome!
Well, let me put it this way... It's a unique venue that is an experience like no other in college athletics. The place doesn't even need anywhere near a full house to be really loud. I like it for Syracuse, and I like visiting there. So, I like it once every other year, but wouldn't want it for Pitt though. (if that makes any sense)
Well, let me put it this way... It's a unique venue that is an experience like no other in college athletics. The place doesn't even need anywhere near a full house to be really loud. I like it for Syracuse, and I like visiting there. So, I like it once every other year, but wouldn't want it for Pitt though. (if that makes any sense)
That is a good point. Send it to Heather Lyke. Narduzzi will need to accept that for a louder and better atmosphere. The ACCN, ESPN, etc will focus the cameras accordingly,
I've never even been to North Dakota, even though I almost moved there in 2016 though.
I'd love to see a game there sometime. It only seats about 20K doesn't it?
I'd love to see a game there sometime. It only seats about 20K doesn't it?
Yes, actually did a job engineering fair there. Do I was there but not for a game.
Fargo ND. North Dakota st. Indoor facility. Actually quite horrible venue but I’m sure it gets insanely loud. Think of a perfectly rectangular warehouse with a footbsll field on the floor.
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I think the post COVID era would be ideal for Pitt to tarp. The issue of the tarp in recruiting will be there maybe a little less, and winning will solve ALL of that. We have a decent defense, and Narduzzi just got a 4 star recruit on defense. I know we got killed by Notre Dame and Clemson, but that is the top 4 in college football. We need not only get more 4 stars, but 5 5 stars per class. Not near that, and I do not forsee that. Moving back to Oakland does not solve that. There are not many 5 stars, and they go to the cream of the crop.
I've been to a game there. It was less than 20k capacity, but it was the loudest football game I've ever been to. Louder than 106k at PSU. Granted, it was a semifinal FCS playoff game (so winner got to go to neutral site in Texas to play for national championship), so maybe that made it more intense than a regular season game. Plus the road team did very little to quiet the crowd; NDSU won somewhat comfortably. Nevertheless, it was an awesome atmosphere and environment for a football game.
I could imagine. It’s a football field and stands or right on field than a wall behind it. That’s it.
Idaho also plays in a dome stadium. Idaho State does as well.
ETSU had a dome stadium almost exactly like Idaho State before they dropped their football program. The dome still stands, although basketball has moved to the local civic arena and they built a new stadium when they brought back football. I'm not sure what it's currently used for.
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ETSU had a dome stadium almost exactly like Idaho State before they dropped their football program. The dome still stands, although basketball has moved to the local civic arena and they built a new stadium when they brought back football. I'm not sure what it's currently used for.
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I bet that was a lot of fun.
I think the FCS Championship game is played at a Soccer Stadium (Toyota Stadium) in Frisco TX. Frisco is where The Star is also located. Ben DiNucci led the JMU Dukes there last year where they lost a nail biter to NDSU.
The environment for the game itself was a blast. I can't comment on the tailgate scene because it is ridiculously cold in North Dakota in late December and I wasn't going to stand outside. The stands a very steep/vertical, so as the visiting team I'm sure it feels like the home team's fans are right on top of you. Plus like someone mentioned there is a wall right behind those steep bleachers that traps the sound in. Inside, it basically never got quiet. I don't know if that's just the acoustics that cause it to be like that, or the fans screaming nonstop for 3+ hours.
Like even in between plays when nothing is going on, it was loud. And even when NDSU had the ball, it was loud. I've never been to a soccer game in Europe, but when you watch them on TV, the action doesn't break and it seems like the crowd never stops making noise. Well that's what it seemed like in the Fargodome.
regarding the carrier dome, never been but would really like to see a hoops game there. that place, when cuse had a good team, came off as ridiculously loud even on tv.
There was a game and this actually jumped out at me at the time and i even re-watched the game on youtube a few times and the crowd seemed so loud that you could hardly hear the broadcasters and this was the whole game. it was back in late 80s, Pitt won actually and it was such a great game and the crowd screamed the whole time. it was when Lane had like 30+, Martin had big game too.
On the flip side, cuse football being cuse football for the last 15 years, that football game experience comes off awful. but i've never been there so maybe it's not.
There was a game and this actually jumped out at me at the time and i even re-watched the game on youtube a few times and the crowd seemed so loud that you could hardly hear the broadcasters and this was the whole game. it was back in late 80s, Pitt won actually and it was such a great game and the crowd screamed the whole time. it was when Lane had like 30+, Martin had big game too.
On the flip side, cuse football being cuse football for the last 15 years, that football game experience comes off awful. but i've never been there so maybe it's not.
I'm not a cold weather person at all, so I would take a hard pass on the tailgating too. I talked my wife out of accepting a job in Jamestown, ND. So I would probably would have followed the Bison some if that had actually happened. I'd still like to see a game there, as well as go to the FCS Championship game in Texas.
And this old head has heard that crap since 1968. I used to tell people their attitude was the reason we sucked. (Pitt Stadium 1968-1972)
I went to the Pitt/Cuse game in the Dome last year. That was my first time seeing a game in the Dome, so of course I was just taking it all in for the first time and enjoying the experience.
Aluminum seating with backs, and the concourse is narrow. I don't know how the locals feel about it, but I thought the whole experience was kind of a novelty.
GaTech's Bobby Dodd Stadium is one of my favorite venues to watch a college football game. It's been several years since I've been down there though. If it weren't for the virus and it being December, I'd definitely be down there Thursday night. Not totally ruling this year out either.
I was in the Dome in 1987 when Chuck, Rome & Co. crushed the Orange. Every time Boeheim stood up, the crowd booed at him. All the guy did was win 25+ every year!! They had 4 guys from that team play in the NBA.
First off, TARPING IS STUPID, second, I've always thought a Carrier Dome 2 would of been great, screw the yinzers that need outdoor football and real grass, they probably could of done something with some big open windows for the warm weather months..
Way too expensive. Having the track required a much larger external stucture. The Stadium was built to add another level, if needed, but 50 years later it might have been a problem. Not worth the cost for 7 days/year.
I don't understand Narduzzi's comment about other teams using tarping against them. You don't think other teams are using all the yellow seats against him?
Earlier comment about Pitt missing the boat on Carrier Dome II. I think Pitt missed the boat on building a new standium where the old stadium was and finding a different place for the field house. Easier to find space for a new basketball arena in Oakland than a Stadium.
Earlier comment about Pitt missing the boat on Carrier Dome II. I think Pitt missed the boat on building a new standium where the old stadium was and finding a different place for the field house. Easier to find space for a new basketball arena in Oakland than a Stadium.
That joke of a pic showing one soul sleeping one off at Heinz didn’t help thanks to ESPN repeatedly showing it. This guy probably wouldn’t have been noticed if the fans were sitting together. Or probably wouldn’t have been able to doze.
Eh.. just renovate Gesling stadium to 35 k seats and share with carnegie mellon .. and use Heinz for ND, WVU, and other big draws..problem solved
Yeah, I'm sure CMU would have no problem tearing down a couple of their buildings so that they could put in 35,000 seats for us to use for football six times a year.
Lose the enormous track and field track that surrounds the field and build tight to the field..
Eh.. I realize it's not viable / serious..
And it's been a long time since I was there and likely farther from Pitt campus as I remember it...
One of my earliest memories was watching Dorsett running crazy in snow flakes while sitting on frozen metal bleachers... something about a game at an on campus football stadium, on a fall afternoon, that just feels "right"...
Eh.. I realize it's not viable / serious..
And it's been a long time since I was there and likely farther from Pitt campus as I remember it...
One of my earliest memories was watching Dorsett running crazy in snow flakes while sitting on frozen metal bleachers... something about a game at an on campus football stadium, on a fall afternoon, that just feels "right"...
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The only way the Rooney’s get a dome or retractable roof is if they retrofit one onto Heinz Field, in my opinion. I don’t think they’re leaving the North Shore anytime soon and they’ve developed just about all the land there is over there.
Heinz will need to be renovated in some way. It was only built to last 25 years per the engineers and architects. I know. The only way the Rooney’s get a super bowl is with a retractable roof. They are nuts about getting a super bowl. But you can’t retro fit Heinz for one. Hence new stadium. Question is where.
I disagree on the retrofitting comment, but that’s for another discussion.
As to where a “new stadium” would go, I think the likeliest scenario would be right where the current one is. If they don’t just renovate Heinz Field, I imagine they’d tear it down and play at PNC for a few years while they build the new one. They do a poor job right now, IMO, of using the entire space’s footprint, so they’d have plenty of room to build whatever a “modern stadium” is like in ~10 years.
I do think the existing location is best. I do believe it will have a retractable roof and will be pandemic certified. That’s the new buzz word. And I do believe Pitt will behave like leaches.
Unfortunately, you’re probably right. What other choice would they have? They could’ve been planning for 2030 since Heinz Field first opened. Who knows, maybe they have plans that we’re not aware of. Seems more likely that the T will reach Oakland before they bring football back there.
I always thought Ohio St did it right. They used to have a track around the field but removed it and dug down creating a lower bowl of seats brings the stands closer to the field. Also filled in the open end creating a full bowl as seats were needed. Something similar could have been done at Pitt.
I always thought a great comparison was Duke’s stadium. Like Pitt they had a bowl stadium with a track but got rid of it when they renovated the stadium. Imagine this setup with another enclosed endzone.
They could’ve used the expanded room created by the elimination of the track and to both bring the stands closer to the field and enlarge the concourses.
