Heinz Field vs Kennywood

[Sean Miller Fan]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

It shows how effective masks are or how ineffective the virus is?

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

And why are you going to Kennywood if you’re so afraid of this virus and so in favor of shutting down the lives of others?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

It shows how effective masks are or how ineffective the virus is?

Lol, you mean this killer virus with a fatality rate of .01? Most people dont even know they have it and very only people with other major health issues even require medical care.

 

[PittFanDan17]

Let us in. This is ridiculous at this point

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Lol, you mean this killer virus with a fatality rate of .01? Most people dont even know they have it and very only people with other major health issues even require medical care.

We know the virus is ineffective for younger, healthy people, but very deadly for older people. The mortality rate for people 75 or older is 12%. That's pretty dang high. If 10 parents of us message board posters contract COVID, 1 will die, on average. That's not anything to mess with.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Lol, you mean this killer virus with a fatality rate of .01? Most people dont even know they have it and very only people with other major health issues even require medical care.

It seems for some people who live a comfortable life maybe they can work at home, they’ve made some money and have a nice house and can buy some nice food that they can come online and write about gourmet meals and such... well, for those people, everyone else should be able to endure a shut down of life and their jobs, because they can. Come on man, learn to code or get on unemployment and most of all, stop your whining... your opinion is not as good as mine. And facts, facts and science only apply when it adheres to their perspective, because after all “my truth” is better than the truth or whatever you idiots who disagree with me say. As long as long as some have comfort, the lives of others are inconsequential.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

We know the virus is ineffective for younger, healthy people, but very deadly for older people. The mortality rate for people 75 or older is 12%. That's pretty dang high. If 10 parents of us message board posters contract COVID, 1 will die, on average. That's not anything to mess with.

Then why are you going to Kennywood?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

going to kennywood on a crowded day wearing a mask sounds like flat out torture..

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

It seems for some people who live a comfortable life maybe they can work at home, they’ve made some money and have a nice house and can buy some nice food that they can come online and write about gourmet meals and such... well, for those people, everyone else should be able to endure a shut down of life and their jobs, because they can. Come on man, learn to code or get on unemployment and most of all, stop your whining... your opinion is not as good as mine. And facts, facts and science only apply when it adheres to their perspective, because after all “my truth” is better than the truth or whatever you idiots who disagree with me say. As long as long as some have comfort, the lives of others are inconsequential.

lets wear masks to flatten the curve. it will be temporary, dont be so selfish -march '20..

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Then why are you going to Kennywood?

Free tickets that I couldn't roll over to 2021.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

going to kennywood on a crowded day wearing a mask sounds like flat out torture..

It was. I was only there because the kids wanted to go and I had free tickets but there were people there without kids and I was thinking how crazy these people had to be to wear a mask in that heat with those lines.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

It was. I was only there because the kids wanted to go and I had free tickets but there were people there without kids and I was thinking how crazy these people had to be to wear a mask in that heat with those lines.

ouch. i mean i like kennywood but yeah, i have two kids and am only going for them. maybe, maybe if i lived closer and wanted to hit up a coaster or two, i'd go in the late afternoon with the other half on a weekday to do the jack rabbit or phantom or something. no way on God's green earth am i going as an adult, with no kids, and spending a whole day there.

i am on the side of we are going WAY overboard wiht this but in this kind of environment, with people on top of each other, yeah, masks would be better than having it closed or limiting it to 25% occupancy..

 

[PharMorNightStocker]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

Shut 'er down, as long as it's only other people who are affected.


But yes - I agree that the inconsistency is astounding at this point.

 

[FIVE4PITT]

There are still reports of infected Covid persons younger age group being placed in nursing homes with elderly patients which apparently occurred in Michigan. There is supposed to be an investigation into this matter. Other states appear to have made the same mistake. The elderly are the higher risk group. Doesn't make sense.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

We know the virus is ineffective for younger, healthy people, but very deadly for older people. The mortality rate for people 75 or older is 12%. That's pretty dang high. If 10 parents of us message board posters contract COVID, 1 will die, on average. That's not anything to mess with.

First thing that needs to happen is that 10 of them have to contract Covid, so it will take a thousand of us message board posters to get to the 10 infected.

There are ~22 million people in the US 75 or older. Roughly 1.5m of them die each year because old people make up the majority of deaths from everything.

Like everything, context matters. People have lost all sense of context when throwing numbers around.

 

[Panther Holla]

A well-planned, thoughtful, coordinated national response with science-based guidelines would have gone a loooong way to getting us farther along the recovery curve than we are today. States could have adapted federal guidelines to their situations. As a nation we did not get that kind of leadership. Instead of a spirit of "let's beat this by doing X, Y and Z" we got denial and lies. But we might have avoided the chaos we have now. The governor's response, however well intentioned, is like a man in a gale trying to catch butterflies bare-handed. The inconsistency is maddening.... but I'll bet you a bottle of Clorox and two confederate flags that when Penn State hosts Ohio State, there WILL be fans in the stands.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

First thing that needs to happen is that 10 of them have to contract Covid, so it will take a thousand of us message board posters to get to the 10 infected.

There are ~22 million people in the US 75 or older. Roughly 1.5m of them die each year because old people make up the majority of deaths from everything.

Like everything, context matters. People have lost all sense of context when throwing numbers around.

yeah, hearing biden and many fear mongers throw out this 200k number with zero context makes me just shake my head..

 

[upj87]

We know the virus is ineffective for younger, healthy people, but very deadly for older people. The mortality rate for people 75 or older is 12%. That's pretty dang high. If 10 parents of us message board posters contract COVID, 1 will die, on average. That's not anything to mess with.

you know no such thing......I know you are sort of the 40 watt bulb in a pack of 100s but one would think you would know you need a known denominator to calculate a rate...

might what to look at the CDC "case rate" survival numbers that contradict what you just typed...

CDC Releases Updated COVID-19 Fatality Rate Data

The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) has released an update to their research on the fatality rate associated with COVID-19. The CDC first posted this data on May 20, 2020, with the understanding that the parameter values would be updated and augmented over time. This update, dated September...

tallahasseereports.com

btw..do you have pre-mask usage infection numbers from Kennywood to bolster your initial stupid assertion that mask usage and not fresh open air is the reasoning for the current number being so low? I'll wait.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

yeah, hearing biden and many fear mongers throw out this 200k number with zero context makes me just shake my head..

Yeah, 250k die every month. Each year, 650k from heart disease, 600k from cancer, 50k from suicide.... We have 330m people in this country, numbers of anything are big.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

yeah, hearing biden and many fear mongers throw out this 200k number with zero context makes me just shake my head..

Excess deaths show the true impact of COVID-19 in the U.S.

Epidemiologist Justin Lessler unpacks a recent CDC report on comorbidities and coronavirus deaths that is being misinterpreted on social media

hub.jhu.edu

At this point we all understand the comorbidities. But some people live with diabetes and heart disease (and other issues) for a long time. COVID has shortened many many lives.

 

[pitt-girl]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

The inconsistency can not be clearer then comparing no fans in Heinz Field vs. 4000 people right down the road inside the Casino.

🤔

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Excess deaths show the true impact of COVID-19 in the U.S.

Epidemiologist Justin Lessler unpacks a recent CDC report on comorbidities and coronavirus deaths that is being misinterpreted on social media

hub.jhu.edu

At this point we all understand the comorbidities. But some people live with diabetes and heart disease (and other issues) for a long time. COVID has shortened many many lives.

So has diabetes and heart disease.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

So has diabetes and heart disease.

Brilliant. Of course it has. But some people live long productive lives with both. COVID has shortened thousands and thousands of lives even further.

 

[LVram81]

Free tickets that I couldn't roll over to 2021.

Herein lies the problem; everyone has an excuse that’s meaningful to them. Free tickets, really? That’s all it takes for you to ‘risk your life’? I don’t share your fear or paranoia, but your reason for going is super lame.

 

[ERICCARTMAN]

PITT and the Steelers should proceed and open Heinz Field based on CDC guidelines. Wolf, Levine and Fitzgerald have no standing in this issue. The Federal court has spoken.

Sad, only a couple of female county commissioners from Butler had the backbone to challenge the arbitrary rules that were applied unequally.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

Sorry. I've heard from the experts on here that masks don't work.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Free tickets that I couldn't roll over to 2021.

So you risked your life and the lives of others, in your view, over Kennywood tickets? Maybe $100

But it is clear that you are a fraud and a liar.

Not that it matters to you because as long as you are comfortable, who cares about others outside of empty platitudes.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Brilliant. Of course it has. But some people live long productive lives with both. COVID has shortened thousands and thousands of lives even further.

Are you sure? Or did you hear this on the TV?
How many people didn’t get treatment for these serious diseases because of the lockdown? But as long as you can pontificate, you don’t have to be honest with yourself and others.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Sorry. I've heard from the experts on here that masks don't work.

And I’ve heard from experts on here they say it is the cure all dating back to March.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

The inconsistency can not be clearer then comparing no fans in Heinz Field vs. 4000 people right down the road inside the Casino.
🤔

Yep, why on earth would the casino be OK and an outdoor stadium not ok?

 

[upj87]

Brilliant. Of course it has. But some people live long productive lives with both. COVID has shortened thousands and thousands of lives even further.

wonder how many years have been shaved off due to the shutdown and fear mongering anxiety not to mention delayed necessary medical screenings...won't know that for decades...I'd guess it equates to more years than are lost by 80+ year olds on their way out within a year or so prior to covid..

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Though I have agreed with Wolf on his spread-stopping measures, I have been critical of Wolf for his lack of consistency. For examples, mass outdoor gatherings of 250+ are prohibited but amusement parks are allowed to pack them in by the thousands. We went to Kennywood over Labor Day weekend and the place was packed, probably the most packed we've seen at Kennywood in awhile. The lines were long and there was no social distancing at all in line. I don't see how anyone would think that's safer than a 10%-20% full football stadium.

The good news is I don't believe there were ANY Covid cases linked to Kennywood which goes to show you just how effective mask wearing is. Between that and very few school outbreaks, I think we are seeing that wearing masks is incredibly effective. If I'm wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask, there seems to be very little chance that we can spread it to each other.

SMF you are right. I saw a picture from Jennerstown Speedway a couple of weeks ago and there are fans. In fact, I found this video.... LOOK AT THE CROWDS!!

I also live close to Lernerville Speedway in Sarver, and I know they have spectators. But there is signs all around requiring "masks" that must be worn.

But look at this video around the 1:50 mark.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

wonder how many years have been shaved off due to the shutdown and fear mongering anxiety not to mention delayed necessary medical screenings...won't know that for decades...I'd guess it equates to more years than are lost by 80+ year olds on their way out within a year or so prior to covid..

No clue about the amounts but I don’t disagree with the point whatsoever.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Herein lies the problem; everyone has an excuse that’s meaningful to them. Free tickets, really? That’s all it takes for you to ‘risk your life’? I don’t share your fear or paranoia, but your reason for going is super lame.

I wasn't risking my life or my family's.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So you risked your life and the lives of others, in your view, over Kennywood tickets? Maybe $100

But it is clear that you are a fraud and a liar.

Not that it matters to you because as long as you are comfortable, who cares about others outside of empty platitudes.

Liar? Im actually telling the truth and admitting to making a selfish decision to go to Kennywood.

 

[PharMorNightStocker]

I wasn't risking my life or my family's.

It was just a blow out.

 

[LVram81]

I wasn't risking my life or my family's.

But you support the governors spread-stopping measures? If large gatherings are a risk, apparently unmitigated by masks, then you must have risked those things that you said you didn’t. As has been said by many here, the contradictions are confounding!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

yeah, hearing biden and many fear mongers throw out this 200k number with zero context makes me just shake my head..

I agree. The USA leads the word in COVID deaths as a proportion of population (finally were able to catch Italy after they got off to that huge start). That's the most important metric and we are killing it (pun intended)

 

[LVram81]

I agree. The USA leads the word in REPORTED COVID deaths as a proportion of population (finally were able to catch Italy after they got off to that huge start). That's the most important metric and we are killing it (pun intended)

There, fixed it for you.