Here is My Main Question for Jeter

[Piranha]

Are you concerned that there is dissension on ND's defensive side of the ball, and you probably don't even know who your DC will be and what kind of defense he is going to run? You have the potential to make millions of dollars and retire by the time you are 30. You know what Narduzzi has done at previous stops. Are you willing to roll the dice on a complete unknown?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

It's Notre Dame. Some kids get blown away by it.

 

[pittguy81]

I'm sure he heard some rumblings and asked questions...which were probably white-washed. Having said that, he must have loved the campus, the game day experience and the feel of ND. I think it's great when kids choose a school and not necessarily a particular coach. Sucks for Pitt. I thought we had him in the bag.

 

[steel_curtain]

Are you concerned that there is dissension on ND's defensive side of the ball, and you probably don't even who your DC will be and what kind of defense he is going to run? You have the potential to make millions of dollars and retire by the time you are 30. You know what Narduzzi has done at previous stops. Are you willing to roll the dice on a complete unknown?

-He said he didnt care. He liked Notre Dame for the atmosphere and what it was. So in this situation there was nothing Pitt could have done. Hell, Michigan didnt even get a visit, which in the case I also find surprising. So the answer is your 5 year old cousin could be coaching Notre Dame and think a football is round, and he wouldnt give a rats ass. Bonehead decision, but its his. And that isnt sour grapes on my part, he could of went to Michigan or some other big school. But Notre Dame? Heh

 

[Piranha]

I get it if you are an average student, but if your career is the NFL and you can make millions then this should be near the top of your list.

 

[PantherO]

There are 2 types of recruits..

Those who want to follow in someone's legacy, and those who want to make their own.

We know which kind Pitt needs..that is where the focus should be.

 

[steel_curtain]

I get it if you are an average student, but if your career is the NFL and you can make millions then this should be near the top of your list.

-I dont think he cares. Like some kids, he thinks he is going to Notre Dame and come in and dominate regardless who the Coach is. He'll learn Coaching matters down the road when he doesnt have an NFL draft stock. But hey, if he isnt dumb at least he'll get a Notre Dame education. He can forget the NFL without quality coaching. Just looked it up, since 2008 Notre Dame has put a paltry 3 DL players in the NFL and 2 of them never registered a tackle.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

It is a disappointment but Recruits will do what they want and good for Jeter going to a fine Program at Notre Dame. Up to Pitt TO Rebuild Pitt's Program and no one else. Confident Pitt's Coach Pat & Staff will it.
Wish Jeter well at ND.

Pennsylvania Rivals Top 10 Recruits 2017:
? Undecided #1 Wade
4 Notre Dame #4, #5, #7, #9
2 Georgia #2, #6
2 Penn State #8, #10
1 Pitt #3

Pitt: #3, #17, #19,

Penn State: #8, #10

WVU: #12, #23,

Temple: #21,

Regional Programs Rival Rankings Today;
2 Ohio State
6 Notre Dame
13 Michigan
17 Maryland
21 Rutgers
22 Iowa
23 Penn State
32 Michigan State
37 Virginia Tech
45 WVU
47 Virginia
51 Pitt
52 Cuse
70 Temple

 

[Piranha]

There are 2 types of recruits..

Those who want to follow in someone's legacy, and those who want to make their own.

We know which kind Pitt needs..that is where the focus should be.

Yup - next man up. Nothing else u can do.

 

[steel_curtain]

It is a disappointment but Recruits will do what they want and good for Jeter going to a fine Program at Notre Dame. Up to Pitt Rebuild its Program and no one else. Wish Jeter well at ND.

Pennsylvania Rivals Top Ten Recruits 2017:
? Undecided #1 Wade
4 Notre Dame #4, #5, #7, #9
2 Georgia #2, #6
2 Penn State #8, #10
1 Pitt #3

Pitt: #3, #17, #19,

Penn State: #8, #10

WVU: #12, #23,

Temple: #21,

Regional Programs Rival Rankings Today;
2 Ohio State
6 Notre Dame
13 Michigan
17 Maryland
21 Rutgers
22 Iowa
23 Penn State
32 Michigan State
37 Virginia Tech
45 WVU
47 Virginia
51 Pitt
52 Cuse
70 Temple

-We only pulled in 6 PA players in a 24 man class last year. We have been going out of state, and that should continue.

 

[fitzburgh]

-I dont think he cares. Like some kids, he thinks he is going to Notre Dame and come in and dominate regardless who the Coach is. He'll learn Coaching matters down the road when he doesnt have an NFL draft stock. But hey, if he isnt dumb at least he'll get a Notre Dame education. He can forget the NFL without quality coaching. Just looked it up, since 2008 Notre Dame has put a paltry 3 DL players in the NFL and 2 of them never registered a tackle.

yea I remember they had these studs up front, Sheldon Day and Lewis-Moore and Tuitt...we should have beaten those bums in 2012 and did in 2013.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

yea I remember they had these studs up front, Sheldon Day and Lewis-Moore and Tuitt...we should have beaten those bums in 2012 and did in 2013.

I checked on the backgrounds of Kelly's Coaching Staff, most come from Small Schools, but posted they coached at bigger P-5 Programs. Some are Alums with 3 from Wayne State, Grand Valley State, East Stroudsburg, Boise???The other 2 are from Iowa, Michigan and Kelly just added two ND Alums to replace two he let go, one is the new DBC?

Kelly himself has had stability problems at ND. Kelly has proven to a be a great coach everywhere he goes and at ND. However, he is has to win 10+ Games to keep that job too?

One never knows what can happen?

 

[Muddy Puddles]

If we had Script back, this would never have happened.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

It's Notre Dame. Some kids get blown away by it.

No more complicated than that .
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State

Brand matters

 

[DruidTM]

Back in the day Pitt wasn't built entirely on the WPIAL either....

 

[Safety Blitz]

-Bonehead decision, but its his.

Accepting a full scholarship to Notre Dame can never -- NEVER -- be considered a "bonehead" decision.
As a football fan, I can't stand the Irish. I hope they lose their next 200 games.
But let's be realistic. It's a Notre Dame scholarship. NOTRE DAME !!!
Suggesting this young man is a "bonehead" because he accepted a Notre Dame scholarship rather than play for YOUR favorite football team is one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this board.

 

[steel_curtain]

Accepting a full scholarship to Notre Dame can never -- NEVER -- be considered a "bonehead" decision.
As a football fan, I can't stand the Irish. I hope they lose their next 200 games.
But let's be realistic. It's a Notre Dame scholarship. NOTRE DAME !!!
Suggesting this young man is a "bonehead" because he accepted a Notre Dame scholarship rather than play for YOUR favorite football team is one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this board.

-Actually its not. A top 250 recruit in high school has NFL aspirations first, academics 2nd. Stanford shits all over Notre Dame. Better Academic school. Better football program right now. And has been kicking their ass on the field. They also put talent in the NFL. And on top of all that, they have a far better Coaching staff that actually cares about their kids. So spare me the academics.

 

[deepelemblues]

here is my question for jeter:

Y U MAKE ALL THESE PEOPLE FEEL SO JILTED MAN

 

[Safety Blitz]

-Actually its not. A top 250 recruit in high school has NFL aspirations first, academics 2nd. Stanford shits all over Notre Dame. Better Academic school. Better football program right now. And has been kicking their ass on the field. They also put talent in the NFL. And on top of all that, they have a far better Coaching staff that actually cares about their kids. So spare me the academics.

When did Stanford get put into the equation?
But if you want to include Stanford, that fine with me. And I'll stand by my original post that referring to anyone as a "bonehead" because they accepts a scholarship from Notre Dame (or Stanford) rather than play for YOUR favorite team is one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this board. And trying to defend that "bonehead" comment ranks right up there, too.
Just curious what you know -- not think, but actually know -- about which coaching staffs "actually care about their kids" more than others.

 

[steel_curtain]

When did Stanford get put into the equation?
But if you want to include Stanford, that fine with me. And I'll stand by my original post that referring to anyone as a "bonehead" because they accepts a scholarship from Notre Dame (or Stanford) rather than play for YOUR favorite team is one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this board. And trying to defend that "bonehead" comment ranks right up there, too.
Just curious what you know -- not think, but actually know -- about which coaching staffs "actually care about their kids" more than others.

-100% dumb. He could of went to Michigan, or Ohio State, or Alabama for all he wants. Yes, I think Jeter is a complete dumbass for committing to a school for the reasons of their DC on the verge of getting fired and the way Kelly treats his staff and his players. He is going to ND because of the atmosphere and the local PA recruits like Hinish recruited him. You arent changing my opinion on this and you can write back until you turn Irish green in the face. I would go to any top flight school over Notre Dame until they change their coaching staff, period. Take Pitt out of the equation. I would choose any top flight program over Notre Dame, any of them, because any Top 250 football recruit should care about getting Coached up and ready for the next level, which is the NFL.

-Ill laugh at Jeter when he screws up on the field and Kelly runs over to him and threatens to punch him in the face, as this is already proven with that lunatic of a coach.

 

[perchance]

When did Stanford get put into the equation?
But if you want to include Stanford, that fine with me. And I'll stand by my original post that referring to anyone as a "bonehead" because they accepts a scholarship from Notre Dame (or Stanford) rather than play for YOUR favorite team is one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this board. And trying to defend that "bonehead" comment ranks right up there, too.
Just curious what you know -- not think, but actually know -- about which coaching staffs "actually care about their kids" more than others.

Kelly's actions in callously sending 'his kid', the practice filmer, to his death and his subsequent reactions to that avoidable tragedy, along with his constant use of abusive language toward his players and staff tells me all I need to know about how he actually cares about his kids more than others.
Don't wish the kid luck, good or bad. Save my good wishes for Pitt recruits.

One thing though, he will have a great seat in Notre Dame stadium to watch the "Fighting Irish" play (lAs an Irishman, I am greatly offended by this horrible racist disparagement, and demand the name be changed to the Peace-loving Hibernians) and to contemplate Touchdown Jesus.

 

[Safety Blitz]

-100% dumb. He could of went to Michigan, or Ohio State, or Alabama for all he wants. Yes, I think Jeter is a complete dumbass for committing to a school for the reasons of their DC on the verge of getting fired and the way Kelly treats his staff and his players. He is going to ND because of the atmosphere and the local PA recruits like Hinish recruited him. You arent changing my opinion on this and you can write back until you turn Irish green in the face. I would go to any top flight school over Notre Dame until they change their coaching staff, period. Take Pitt out of the equation. I would choose any top flight program over Notre Dame, any of them, because any Top 250 football recruit should care about getting Coached up and ready for the next level, which is the NFL.

-Ill laugh at Jeter when he screws up on the field and Kelly runs over to him and threatens to punch him in the face, as this is already proven with that lunatic of a coach.

What a short-sighted reply.
Every kid who gets a D-1 scholarship has NFL dreams, but the odds are actually long. That ND degree, however, opens up a lot of doors for years to come.
Any DC could be on the move at any time. Pitt DC left after last season. Does that make anyone who accepted a Pitt ship a bonehead?
I have spoken with one former ND player -- yes, just one -- who loved playing for Kelly. Said he is definitely a hard ass, but loved his ND experience. That is all I actually know.

 

[medixman]

Steel my hat's off go you and I'm serious.You are the most positive fan that I've ever seen.You could take a one star recruit from Avella and give us stats and measurements on him that would make him into a sure fire All American at Pitt if they recruited him.I can hear you saying you should of seen his moves in that 91 yard TD run against Mapletown,he made 8 Maples miss him!You are the ultimate optimist when it comes to Pitt where I'm the opposite, I'm a big time pessimist about my teams.A lot of times I don't agree with your views but they are always entertaining.H 2P

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"SoufOaklin4Life, post: 1587894, member: 1562"]No more complicated than that .
Notre Dame-1st Hall of Fame
Michigan-4th Hall of Fame
Ohio State-3rd Hall of Fame
Brand matters

Yep, Brand Matters!
Pitt 4th Hall of Fame!

 

[Cap pitt]

I still believe his dad did not want him at pitt

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Pitt fans wanted him , local kid highly rated and I know it's hard to believe ,but there's just better college football experiences than Pitt . Never been there , but I've been told running out on the field at ND is quite the experience and if the kid wants to go there wish him the best and move on .

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

-We only pulled in 6 PA players in a 24 man class last year. We have been going out of state, and that should continue.

This tells me more than anything that Narduzzi knows what he is doing. And a big FU to the yinzers.

 

[thebadby2]

-100% dumb. He could of went to Michigan, or Ohio State, or Alabama for all he wants. Yes, I think Jeter is a complete dumbass for committing to a school for the reasons of their DC on the verge of getting fired and the way Kelly treats his staff and his players. He is going to ND because of the atmosphere and the local PA recruits like Hinish recruited him. You arent changing my opinion on this and you can write back until you turn Irish green in the face. I would go to any top flight school over Notre Dame until they change their coaching staff, period. Take Pitt out of the equation. I would choose any top flight program over Notre Dame, any of them, because any Top 250 football recruit should care about getting Coached up and ready for the next level, which is the NFL.

-Ill laugh at Jeter when he screws up on the field and Kelly runs over to him and threatens to punch him in the face, as this is already proven with that lunatic of a coach.

Steel-and other misguided posters on this board-let me tell you, you don't know shit about what kind of man Kelly is. You see him red-faced and chewing someone's ass on the sideline in the one or two ND games a year that you actually watch, or you read some equally clueless person's tweet, and you form your baseless assumptions, which is your personal hallmark and MO as a poster. Assumptions based on your limited outsider perspective on topics you have no personal,or experiential kmowledge of.

I actually got to know Kelly a bit about 10 years ago. I've spoken to him at some length about football and non-football topics, like his family life, his wife's long battle with breast cancer, and his charitable cancer foundation, which he's very proud of.

You probably don't know that he goes back 20 years with Van Gorder and that they are close friends.

He is very intelligent, far more so than any other football coach I've known, and I've know my share. He is a driven perfectionist, like Nick Saban. Anyone who knows anything about Saban knows there is no coach anywhere who is harder on his players amd staff. He is ruthless. Yet I don't see you or anyone else badmouthing St. Nick on this board.

Stick to what you know, whatever that may be. God knows you don't know what you think you know about football related topics.

 

[steel_curtain]

Steel-and other misguided posters on this board-let me tell you, you don't know shit about what kind of man Kelly is. You see him red-faced and chewing someone's ass on the sideline in the one or two ND games a year that you actually watch, or you read some equally clueless person's tweet, and you form your baseless assumptions, which is your personal hallmark and MO as a poster. Assumptions based on your limited outsider perspective on topics you have no personal,or experiential kmowledge of.

I actually got to know Kelly a bit about 10 years ago. I've spoken to him at some length about football and non-football topics, like his family life, his wife's long battle with breast cancer, and his charitable cancer foundation, which he's very proud of.

He is verybintelligemt and is a perfectionist, like Nick Saban. Anyone who knows anything about Saban knows there is

Stick to what you know, whatever that may be.

-Kelly's an asshole. Anything else?

 

[Piranha]

Steel-and other misguided posters on this board-let me tell you, you don't know shit about what kind of man Kelly is. You see him red-faced and chewing someone's ass on the sideline in the one or two ND games a year that you actually watch, or you read some equally clueless person's tweet, and you form your baseless assumptions, which is your personal hallmark and MO as a poster. Assumptions based on your limited outsider perspective on topics you have no personal,or experiential kmowledge of.

I actually got to know Kelly a bit about 10 years ago. I've spoken to him at some length about football and non-football topics, like his family life, his wife's long battle with breast cancer, and his charitable cancer foundation, which he's very proud of.

You probably don't know that he goes back 20 years with Van Gorder and that they are close friends.

He is verybintelligemt and is a perfectionist, like Nick Saban. Anyone who knows anything about Saban knows there is no coach anywhere who is harder on his players amd staff. He is ruthless. Yet I don't see you or anyone else badmouthing St. Nick on this board.

Stick to what you know, whatever that may be. God knows you don't know what you think you know about football related topics.

Saban wins national titles with 4/5 stars. Kelly averages a 9-4 record. I don't know the guy, but there are a lot of good coaches who do not scream and swear at coaches and players until they are blue in the face.

 

[Safety Blitz]

-Kelly's an asshole. Anything else?

Based on what?
Is your personal opinion based on any facts or first-hand knowledge?
Or is it based on the fact he's kicking the crap out of PA schools when it comes to recruiting in Pennsylvania?
I'm not a big fan of F-bomb Kelly, but I have no idea what kind of a man he is.
I've disagreed with you on several posts today, but I won't call you names.

 

[steel_curtain]

Based on what?
Is your personal opinion based on any facts or first-hand knowledge?
Or is it based on the fact he's kicking the crap out of PA schools when it comes to recruiting in Pennsylvania?
I'm not a big fan of F-bomb Kelly, but I have no idea what kind of a man he is.
I've disagreed with you on several posts today, but I won't call you names.

You can start with this

http://deadspin.com/5675694/prelude...re-dame-student-died-and-why-he-shouldnt-have

 

[thebadby2]

Saban wins national titles with 4/5 stars. Kelly averages a 9-4 record. I don't know the guy, but there are a lot of good coaches who do not scream and swear at coaches and players until they are blue in the face.

You think ND is playing with the same kind of players that Bama or Ohio State are? If so, you don't have a very good eye for what you're watching.

Since the talent, size amd speed differential isn't obvious to you as a casual viewer, do yourself a favor and look at the rank of ND's recruiting classes versus Alabama, Ohio State, FSU, LSU, Georgia, Clemson or Michigan over the past several years. Also take a look at how many players are getting drafted out of all of those programs.

 

[Piranha]

You think ND is playing with the same kind of players that Bama or Ohio State are? If so, you don't have a very good eye for what you're watching.

Since the talent, size amd speed differential isn't obvious to you as a casual viewer, do yourself a favor and look at the rank of ND's recruiting classes versus Alabama, Ohio State, FSU, LSU, Georgia, Clemson or Michigan over the past several years. Also take a look at how many players are getting drafted out of all of those programs.

ND is perceived to be The Yankees of college football. Saban or Meyer would have multiple national titles if they were the HC at ND. You could make a case for about 10 HC that would have a national title at ND if they coached there as long as Kelly.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

You could take a one star recruit from Avella and give us stats and measurements on him that would make him into a sure fire All American at Pitt if they recruited him.

Well if you saw the way he moved his hips when he did the shuttle run at the big Northgate prospects camp you'd know he was the real deal.

 

[thebadby2]

ND is perceived to be The Yankees of college football. Saban or Meyer would have multiple national titles if they were the HC at ND. You could make a case for about 10 HC that would have a national title at ND if they coached there as long as Kelly.

Dude, it's not 1969. Nobody but you perceives ND to be the present day Yankees of college football. Hell, the Yankees haven't even been the Yankees in the last decade.

ND is still digging out of the hole that has been dug since Holtz left. Here's a few names for you: Davie, Willingham, Weis.

It has been forever since ND has been able to consistently recruit too 10 classes. Since the debacles following Holtz they have been passed by numerous programs when it comes to program strength. They will never get the players Bama, FSU, LSU, or OSU is getting.

You starting to get the picture?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I still believe his dad did not want him at pitt

Based on what? Not busting balls, genuinely curious.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Again, the problem that Pitt is facing right now is these kids and/or their parents are for the most part, making an emotional decision whereas they should be looking at this as a business decision.

Look at it this way, a 4.5GPA, 1600 SAT honors student from North Allegheny could get a free ride from ASU or Hawaii, but Harvard or MIT is the more prudent choice. Hawaii offers great beaches and weather and girls....but not the best prep onto your life's work.

For whatever reason, these local kids playing football are not getting this. Look at the local kids who have chosen Pitt, look at the local kids who decide to ring the bell for the big lights. I am not saying these kids can't play at a big school, just we see that in their 2nd-3rd year, if they aren't developing fast enough or get hurt, they get passed by and buried on their depth charts. Where at Pitt they have more of a margin of error.

 

[BFo8]

Sorry to lose a recruit like Jeter, but it wasn't because of the "NOTRE DAME" that most of us and our parents grew up knowing, they don't have the same pull anymore that they had 25-30 years ago.

Despite being the a-hole that he is Kelly deserves a lot of the credit, the guy is a great recruiter and coach.

There will always be a few guys that go to Notre Dame because of their history, but if Weis or Willingham were coach they don't get a lot of these guys. Brian Kelly sold them on Notre Dame.

A lot of people on this board still seem to think ND is some God-like figure in college football. They're not anymore, they are way behind programs like Alabama, OSU, FSU, LSU and some others in recruiting and on the field results.

If Kelly ever decides he wants to try the NFL Notre Dame better choose their next coach wisely, their name isn't what it used to be with this generation, and will steadily decrease unless they maintain prolonged success on the field.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Let me get this right a lot of you would choose Pitt over ND if you were in Jeters shoes ?
So ND isn't the same program it was 20+ yrs ago , that Alabama and TOSUs of world have better programs it's still ND .
If you can't play at ND you can't play in the NFL.
Kelly shows his emotions you see what your going to get .
Before the PSU mess who wouldn't want their kid playing for a coach like JoePa ?
You don't have any idea what any of these coaches are like to play for unless you do
The only compelling reason for Jeter to go to Pitt is if he wanted to stay local.... he didn't !