Herman to LSU, Holgy to Houston
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LOL - LSU is far better than 3 of those listed. PS - that is funny. Texas is the only one that is debatable. Louisiana is loaded with talent and they can usually get their pick of players. Texas has a ton of talent, but has a lot more competition for it.
Penn State isn't close to as good of a job.
If OU is available, great, take that over LSU, but UT won't be open and USC is a disaster right now. LSU is a fantastic job.
I think OU is on par and if Texas is open it would be great because it is so easy to win in the B12.
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Listing ups on that list with those powerhouses? ups is not a top job...it just isn't.
Oklahoma does not have anywhere near the amount of talent that Louisiana has. Oklahoma needs to tap into Texas, and Texas is higher up the food chain than OU. You could argue that it is easier to win at OU, but SOS plays a role in making the Final 4.
He has been close to or on the hot seat the last 2 years. He coached at Houston as well
as TT. He could get a nice contract, and living in Houston is a lot more attractive than Morgantown.
It's funny, there's been a thread up on BWI where they discuss who would be their next coach if they dump Franklin.
A few mentioned Herman, but many more thought that Saban or Meyer were legitimate options.
The delusions still run rampant over there. At least one guy mentioned he wished they would've had a shot at Mark Richt. To me that would be the absolute top they could expect, I'm still surprised Miami was able to land him.
A few mentioned Herman, but many more thought that Saban or Meyer were legitimate options.
The delusions still run rampant over there. At least one guy mentioned he wished they would've had a shot at Mark Richt. To me that would be the absolute top they could expect, I'm still surprised Miami was able to land him.
Houston v Morgantown is likely debatable.
Still, unless the big 12 does invite Houston, I can't see Holgy or any other bcs coach dropping down there.
Tom Herman is from Cincinnati. He probably is a Big 10 guy at heart, and would love to coach at a Big 10 school. There's not going to be an opening at OSU, UM, MSU, or UW, so Nitterland is likely to be his best shot to get a Big 10 job that's not a hopeless position like IU, Purdue, or Minny.
Herman is a west coast guy.
IMO, LSU is better than all the jobs you listed except for maybe Texas.
I wonder if the presence of the NFL makes the USC job a little less attractive or is a non-issue?
IMO, LSU is better than all the jobs you listed except for maybe Texas.
I wonder if the presence of the NFL makes the USC job a little less attractive or is a non-issue?
There are PSU fans that actually think Saban or Meyer might leave their current jobs for PSU?
That's insane.
Herman was born in Cinci but grew up in SoCal and spent the first 10 years of his coaching life in Texas.
The Midwest and Ohio have no special allure to him at all, unless the right job opened up, which is years away.
DH returning to Houston after this season was a prediction I tossed out last year. Dropping down a level is rare (RE: Tuberville), but Houston isn't a bad job and he has a past there.
I think Houston needs a new coach after this season. I also think DH wins 9 games this season and if so, that's not a bad body of work for a coach. All I'm saying is I think DH gets put on Houston's candidate list and if that happens, I think he listens.
The relationship between him and our new AD doesn't appear to be the best.
The majority of Herman's coaching history is in Texas. I have no idea where his heart is but I'm not sure how much that matters.
LSU is one of the few programs where you can compete for a national championship starting day one.
LSU is a better job than PSU. You can debate OU and USC, both play in conferences that are easier to win but LSU has more local talent than OU and USC competes against the NFL and the whole west coast thing were you can just go hang at the beach instead of watching the FB game.
There's no comparison between PSU and LSU. You can win national championships at LSU. PSU is a totally lost program.
NFL back in LA will change the dynamic of college football. Imagine if the Steelers sold out to LA for 2 bullion and Pitt was the only major football sport in town. USC and UCLA will see a different football landscape if the Rams ever become a SB contender. USC also lacks more things than Pitt in facilities and player development.
LSU is a far better job than PSU as it can recruit 5 stars up the kazoo. The Big Ten divisional structure placing OSU, MSU and Michigan in the conference relegates the nits to also rans every year. On top of beating western conference teams like Wisky, Iowa and Nebraska are programs that mirror the nits. Franklin can't recruit well enough and certainly coach well enough to deliver the results the nitters crave for.
LSU is a far better job than PSU as it can recruit 5 stars up the kazoo. The Big Ten divisional structure placing OSU, MSU and Michigan in the conference relegates the nits to also rans every year. On top of beating western conference teams like Wisky, Iowa and Nebraska are programs that mirror the nits. Franklin can't recruit well enough and certainly coach well enough to deliver the results the nitters crave for.
Was USC bad when the Raiders and Rams were in LA previously?
SOS plays a role if you aren't a power program. If you are an undefeated P5 champion you are in without question. P5 conference champion with 1 loss and you need to be a top 10 program to feel good a lot of years. Now the B12 will have a title game and that will make a big difference.
Texas has plenty to feed on for OU, so I'd understand going there because of the easier path. Still top notch facilities and support.
Richt is a Miami alum and played football there. Why are you surprised he went there?
Eh they weren't top 10 USC, but were a decent team. UCLA actually had their number quite a bit though.
USC was a powerhouse while the Rams were also in L.A. back in the 60's and 70's., if the Trojans aren't successful it won't be because of the Rams returning.
yinz guys are 4-0 and have the perfect coach for that conference. You would be crazy to switch for anyone not named Art Briles.
Can't see Hermann to PSU or LSU. I think Houston gets in Big 12 and the ante up to keep him. Although he has made comments in the past about wanting to be on the big stage, with big crowds so LSU is a definite possibility. Or maybe Texas if the good ol boys get impatient with Strong.
Couple of things:
1. Tom Herman gets a HUGE pay raise if Houston gets into the Big XII. Keep that in mind.
2. Penn State is toxic. No coach wants to go there and have a bunch of wackos worshipping the dead guy and demanding statues return. O'Brien lasted two years because of it and the only reason Black Ron Zook hasn't bolted is he has nowhere to go.
3. Jimbo already turned LSU down once. It's why Les was brought back through gritted teeth.
1. Tom Herman gets a HUGE pay raise if Houston gets into the Big XII. Keep that in mind.
2. Penn State is toxic. No coach wants to go there and have a bunch of wackos worshipping the dead guy and demanding statues return. O'Brien lasted two years because of it and the only reason Black Ron Zook hasn't bolted is he has nowhere to go.
3. Jimbo already turned LSU down once. It's why Les was brought back through gritted teeth.
If/when Jimmy gets the boot or runs away (if he can find a place to run to as a HC), look for Matt Ruhle to the nits. They are not getting a successful P5 HC to step into that situation at this time. And Ruhle could well turn out to be Al Golden, part deux: former nit player; Temple HC.
As far as Richt, he is a Miami alum and the timing with him getting canned by UGA worked out for him and the U.
The crazy coaching rumors have already begun. Seems to start earlier every season.
And boy, are there a lot of big time programs with coaches on shaky ground.
Auburn,
Texas,
Oregon,
USC,
PSU,
Notre Dame
Auburn,
Texas,
Oregon,
USC,
PSU,
Notre Dame
