Lots of word salad to say “I was wrong “
HHS to require placebo testing of ‘all new vaccines,’ raising questions about approval of updated Covid-19 shots
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They do during initial testing of the vaccine .
It’s how safety and efficacy is tested.
do you really not read what was posted ?
I gave you a very detailed response , you can reread it .
It’s not my job to cut your food up for you, because you can’t grasp how you were flat wrong .
im shocked a pharmacist working at giant eagle wasnt properly trained to not only diagnose a serious health condition but also failed to at least guide you to an actual real health care professional..
i mean, a giant eagle pharmacist let you down, who would have ever seen this coming?
some advice going forward, unless you need help finding what aisle the kids cough medicine is in, the giant eagle pharmacist wont be of much help. Find a real healthcare professional.
Procedural Generation isn't word salad https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10055475/
Let me ask you -
What professional training do you think it required to administer a vaccine?
Because
Authorization to Administer Injectables Licensure Snapshot
Authorization to Administer Injectables Licensure Snapshot
Let me help you out - the story told here are symptoms of COVID .
The vaccine contains zero virus
You had covid
It’s literally symptoms of the disease
Right. COVID just happened to manifest the day he got vaxxed. 🤪
Maybe he was a victim of fallout from a nearby testing of Jewish space lasers?
Or maybe it was the jab?
BTW, it was well known at the time that the second jab was when these types of symptoms usually occurred.
Thanks. Seems like if you’re really interested in understanding affects you’d use a true placebo, one with the background ingredients or carrier solution and then the vaccine with the entire matrix. One of the concerns is the impact of the metals like aluminum in the background matrix (as one example from what I’ve read ). Yes that would increase the cost of the final solution but seems to me it would be worth doing
I think a lot of good people put a lot of effort into designing reliable and ethical procedures. But ethically designed studies are performed by people, who may or may not be ethical. That is the problem. Any system can be gamed.
But since we're discussing vaccines and not drugs, the trial parameters are not quite the same.
yes - because symptoms show up delayed from being positive .
funny how no data demonstrates that
Good point - they are stricter for vaccines .
The systems can be gamed how ?
It’s why there used to be hard wall between the science and the politically appointed folks . But that’s being eroded now - wonder why ?
Why doesn’t that make you very nervous ?!?
Yes, there are certainly those that act unethically. Like any other human enterprise, perfection is an ideal, not a reality. When people are found to have acted unethically, they are debarred from participating in trials.
See: https://www.fda.gov/inspections-com.../fda-debarment-list-drug-product-applications
For more info on the inspection process, see this: https://www.fda.gov/inspections-com...on/bioresearch-monitoring-program-information
So those symptoms of covid once you have it go on in perpetuity ? Because I still have the exact same symptoms now that I described in my post.
I've had covid twice and it was nothing like that. I had mild flu like symptoms and a real issue with bright lights
Yes .
You have long covid - it sucks, I’m sorry:
Sometimes it does improve for some .
When Loss of Smell and Taste Occurs with Long COVID
An estimated 60% of patients infected with SARS-Co-V2, the virus that causes COVID, lost some ability to taste or smell, according to one study. When these symptoms persist in those with Long COVID, it can rob them of an essential part of life.
www.yalemedicine.org
Yes .
You have long covid - it sucks, I’m sorry:
Sometimes it does improve for some .
When Loss of Smell and Taste Occurs with Long COVID
An estimated 60% of patients infected with SARS-Co-V2, the virus that causes COVID, lost some ability to taste or smell, according to one study. When these symptoms persist in those with Long COVID, it can rob them of an essential part of life.
Im so use to it now I don't even think of it most of the time. Some things,for instance mild buffalo wings and white pizza with the garlic,aren't so bad.
The taste of my banana protein drink,etc.
Just seems strange that it feels mostly on my left side.
It’s a really strange virus that did some things others didn’t .
Including coagulation issues , long term fatigue, and the taste and smell problems .
Hope it eventually improves for you .
My daughter-in-law has the exact same symptoms. She never had Covid but had a Covid shot and booster. To this day, she has problems with smell and things taste differently or not at all. And the Covid shot didn't prevent her from getting Covid. It was just because she wasn't around people close enough who had it to get it. The Covid shots caused her to lose her ability to taste and smell things as she once did.
Spoiler alert
She had covid and now has long covid .
I need to ask
What type of work do you do?
Which other businesses should have arbitrary and increased scrutiny to decrease efficiency by the government?!?
It's unfortunate that the pharmacist didn't test you for COVID before they gave you the jab. I thought they were supposed to make sure you didn't have COVID at the time you were vaccinated (or given the genetic therapy, or whatever the jab was at the time)
Did you get the jab in your left arm?
So the Covid tests they gave out and that were used by technicians were invalid and garbage? It has to be one or the other. She tested negative multiple times. I'm assuming those tests are garbage then, no matter who administered them. Why do they even sell them or give them to people?
Besides, Covid has been over for years now. Now we have to live with the severe harmful side effects of the shots and long-term Covid that was manufactured by a Chinese lab and funded in part by Fauci. Give me a f#cking break!
Proof!
Fauci 'Untruthful' to Congress About Wuhan Lab Research, Documents Suggest
Newly released grant proposals indicate the National Institutes of Health funded controversial gain of function research—appearing to contradict what Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress earlier this year.
www.newsweek.com
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They don’t test for Covid .
They ask if you have tested along with a series of questions you fill out as part of the consent .
The recommendation is to be at least 3 months post covid diagnosis to get immunized
You may need therapy
You seem to have TDS
Funny how you have monitored your in-laws testing habits
TDS? That's yours, buddy.
I don't have to monitor any of her testing habits. She told me and I have 2 ears and understand the English language. We're just talking common sense here. I know that's a foreign concept to you and your libtard buddies.
Good point
It’s far more likely it was a vaccine with spike protein and not an actual virus - which caused her symptoms or long covid!
The easiest solution !
Just like ire common sense that Fauci was involved in Wuhan-based on the zero evidence/
You’re absolutely cooked
Ehh,Souf already schooled you but do you think they have separate classes in pharmacy school if you're contemplating a career at Giant Eagle ?
What a dumb*uck thing to say.
They asked if I needed an ambulance. If I felt the need to go somewhere else I'm a big boy and would have told them. I don't need guided like a toddler even if you might. Who tf do you think you are ?
I've made it this far in life not listening to internet cucks that like to try to come off tough behind a keyboard and I'm sure I'll be fine going forward continuing the same path.
I'm dealing with 5 years of a life altering condition and you're worried about what pharmacy i got the shot ?
You need to step away from the internet for a while.
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That seems risky, but okay. Nevertheless, he was asymptomatic at the time of the shot and the symptoms followed immediately after the shot. It was much later that he got COVID.
If he contracted COVID at the time he got the jab, he'd at least have a cough or maybe the sniffles. His symptoms were textbook vaccine reactions.
obviously you do if you are asking giant eagle pharmacist for medical emergency advice.
you dont listen to internet cucks but you ask for advice in a potential medical emergency from a person who's job it is to suggest cough medicine to people grocery shopping??
weird take
The weird take is you thinki.ng I give 2 shits about your opinion
Get over yourself
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What’s risky about it ?
You have to stay to be observed after the immunization just in case you have a reaction .
It’s a subcutaneous injection - frankly - pharmacist give yhem
With more care than a PA or NP.
Taste distortion is not a reaction .
Ya need to stop .
It’s not vaccines that made you unhealthy .
I mean they are certified immunizers with the state board - Just like anyone else who administers them .
It’s 20 hours of training which involved practical experience with an APP , required annual continuing education.
Granted - I never had any interest in getting certified - because they never offered to pay me more for it .
Of course I haven’t been a “real” pharmacist for about about a decade now . Lol
You are using the national review as proof ?So the Covid tests they gave out and that were used by technicians were invalid and garbage? It has to be one or the other. She tested negative multiple times. I'm assuming those tests are garbage then, no matter who administered them. Why do they even sell them or give them to people?
Besides, Covid has been over for years now. Now we have to live with the severe harmful side effects of the shots and long-term Covid that was manufactured by a Chinese lab and funded in part by Fauci. Give me a f#cking break!
Proof!
Fauci 'Untruthful' to Congress About Wuhan Lab Research, Documents Suggest
Newly released grant proposals indicate the National Institutes of Health funded controversial gain of function research—appearing to contradict what Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress earlier this year.
Was the Washington times and ny post not available ?
A "metallic taste" is absolutely a side effect of some COVID vaccines. Google is your friend. It's been determined to be a "rare" side effect.
I'm not sure you understand how most of the mRNA vaccines worked. Maybe you work at a Zelda's Giant Eagle pharmacy. In that case you get a pass for not knowing. 😜
The Spike protein is a component of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is pathogenic, whether from the virus or created from genetic code in mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines.
The spike protein can trigger inflammation and damage to various tissues, including the lungs and the brain. It can also affect endothelial function and lead to the formation of blood clots.
Why on Earth would you inject a vaccine that creates Spike proteins when you are already infected by a virus which is largely dangerous due to its Spike proteins?
Do they teach common sense in pharmacy school?
The funny thing is how they tell us to wait three months to get vaxxed if you already have COVID...under the guise that you don't want to infect the administer of the shot, or because you'll get a better immune response if you wait.
This is why the public no longer trusts the automatons in white coats.
Ya need to stop spreading silly soyance.
‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA
‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA - PMC
The COVID-19 pandemic caused much illness, many deaths, and profound disruption to society. The production of ‘safe and effective’ vaccines was a key public health target. Sadly, unprecedented high rates of adverse events have overshadowed the ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This review paper, which I only skimmed, is interesting collection of a whole bunch of things, all seeming to brought to support a presumed position. From my years in neurovirology research, I can tell you that attributing neurotoxicity, or other toxicities, to viral proteins is fraught with issues, primarily, whether deleterious effects are caused by levels of proteins found any near what is observed in people, or in confirmations found naturally. In high enough levels, anything is toxic. An example, billions and decades in research have chased the rabbit of gp120 toxicity down the hole of HIV associated cognitive disorders. There are still schools of thought out there, but, in my opinion and many colleagues, it was and is a giant red herring.A "metallic taste" is absolutely a side effect of some COVID vaccines. Google is your friend. It's been determined to be a "rare" side effect.
I'm not sure you understand how most of the mRNA vaccines worked. Maybe you work at a Zelda's Giant Eagle pharmacy. In that case you get a pass for not knowing. 😜
The Spike protein is a component of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is pathogenic, whether from the virus or created from genetic code in mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines.
The spike protein can trigger inflammation and damage to various tissues, including the lungs and the brain. It can also affect endothelial function and lead to the formation of blood clots.
Why on Earth would you inject a vaccine that creates Spike proteins when you are already infected by a virus which is largely dangerous due to its Spike proteins?
Do they teach common sense in pharmacy school?
The funny thing is how they tell us to wait three months to get vaxxed if you already have COVID...under the guise that you don't want to infect the administer of the shot, or because you'll get a better immune response if you wait.
This is why the public no longer trusts the automatons in white coats.
Ya need to stop spreading silly soyance.
‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA
‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA - PMC
The COVID-19 pandemic caused much illness, many deaths, and profound disruption to society. The production of ‘safe and effective’ vaccines was a key public health target. Sadly, unprecedented high rates of adverse events have overshadowed the ...
Not to say that is the case with everything discussed in this paper, but there are a bunch of holes in what is being discussed and seem to be completely glossed over. I'll give you an example: it spends a lot of effort building a case that nanoparticles cross the blood brain barrier resulting in transfection and expression of spike protein in the brain, resulting neurotoxcities, and that may be true, but the paper highlights brain pathology as "spike protein caused degeneration of neurovascular endothelial cells with endotheliitis, cytokine release, and neural capillary damage." In this statement, they are making a causitive claim with nothing but correlary pathology, but this pathology itself suggests damage to the blood brain barrier which could have been caused by all sorts of underlying conditions that may have existed well before any vacination, and which would allow all maner of things to cross including free viral proteins and lipid nanoparticles. More importantly, details on the cause of death of the patients these autopsaies were performed on was not discussed in any context (unless I missed it). There appear to be a ton of holes, and no smoking guns despite repeated claims, but regardless of the apparent agenda of the article, it does point out things that warrant continued study.
I think he thinks I doxxed J. Byron Fleck, who has been obsessively posting his one man campaign all over social media under his own name, and was quoted in an WTAE story, which he then posted about all over the internet.
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