Hire Oats

[Dan1911]

Musselman is a west coast guy. Guys like that HATE the East. I live in Vegas, I know. He'll move back out west asap and never really commit to Pitt, even while here.

Oats can recruit, he's cocky, and Pitt and Pittsburgh are big steps up from Buffalo, but the area isn't so different or so far that if he has a family that moving isn't too far from their base of operations now.

I'm all for an under the radar hire and be done with things now. I like Oats' intangibles. I think he is the best fit, and fit shouldn't be underestimated.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Musselman is a west coast guy. Guys like that HATE the East. I live in Vegas, I know. He'll move back out west asap and never really commit to Pitt, even while here.

Oats can recruit, he's cocky, and Pitt and Pittsburgh are big steps up from Buffalo, but the area isn't so different or so far that if he has a family that moving isn't too far from their base of operations now.

I'm all for an under the radar hire and be done with things now. I like Oats' intangibles. I think he is the best fit, and fit shouldn't be underestimated.

This is how I have felt for some time. I liked him better than Hurley also--and for a similar reason--better recruiting footprint fit than Hurley.

 

[sherepower]

Hurley was directly responsible for Oates roster. Can Oates recruit ACC type players?

Looking at the facts history presents. One can say chances are his recruiting ability will be average at best

 

[DiehardPanther]

Musselman is a west coast guy. Guys like that HATE the East. I live in Vegas, I know. He'll move back out west asap and never really commit to Pitt, even while here.

Oats can recruit, he's cocky, and Pitt and Pittsburgh are big steps up from Buffalo, but the area isn't so different or so far that if he has a family that moving isn't too far from their base of operations now.

I'm all for an under the radar hire and be done with things now. I like Oats' intangibles. I think he is the best fit, and fit shouldn't be underestimated.

The whole “West Coast Guy” thing is dumb. He has been all over the place, and a lot of his recruits have come from the east coast or Midwest.

 

[sherepower]

The whole “West Coast Guy” thing is dumb. He has been all over the place, and a lot of his recruits have come from the east coast or Midwest.

Exactly

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Oats my favorite. But agree Hurley, Musselman (had)have bigger names recruiting wise.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I can’t go for that. I prefer Hall. He was more the lead. Although his preference of playing one on one is a concern.

 

[WoadBlue]

The big problem for Pitt in hiring Oats is that he has only been HC for 3 years, and he was given a winner. Oats has never rebuilt a losing team. And the MAC is not even as good as the AAC.

That doesn't mean that Oats could never be a great coach for Pitt. He might be the best choice.

 

[wbrpanther]

Musselman is a west coast guy. Guys like that HATE the East. I live in Vegas, I know. He'll move back out west asap and never really commit to Pitt, even while here.

Oats can recruit, he's cocky, and Pitt and Pittsburgh are big steps up from Buffalo, but the area isn't so different or so far that if he has a family that moving isn't too far from their base of operations now.

I'm all for an under the radar hire and be done with things now. I like Oats' intangibles. I think he is the best fit, and fit shouldn't be underestimated.

He was born in Ohio and has been all over the map. Because he is on the west coast now doesn't mean he "hates" the east.

 

[ScrantonicityIII]

I can’t go for that. I prefer Hall. He was more the lead. Although his preference of playing one on one is a concern.

He'd make my dreams come true. What does Steinbrink's "private eyes" say about the situation? Or maybe you're just out of touch.

 

[Gep Dawg]

Oats was a high school coach before he was Hurley’s assistant. That makes me nervous. At least Odom coached and recruited in the ACC before ending up in UBMC. I like Oats but it’s a risky move.

 

[Ronnyp91]

One would hope Oats would come significantly cheaper allowing us more money to hire better assistants with.

 

[hoopsguy72]

Hurley was directly responsible for Oates roster. Can Oates recruit ACC type players?

Looking at the facts history presents. One can say chances are his recruiting ability will be average at best

Oats has a recruiting class coming to Buffalo this fall that's about the same as what KS had coming to Pitt. His best recruit is more highly ranked than Golden (around #150, I believe).

And he was the assistant largely responsible for Hurley's recruiting. Of course, I'm sure Bobby was the closer until Oats got the job, but ...

 

[MyNameisJoe]

Hurley was directly responsible for Oates roster. Can Oates recruit ACC type players?

Looking at the facts history presents. One can say chances are his recruiting ability will be average at best

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

He'd make my dreams come true. What does Steinbrink's "private eyes" say about the situation? Or maybe you're just out of touch.

I get the impression you’ve lost that loving feeling. He’s a family man. Seems this is a good time for an adult education.

 

[cmr2133]

Stop saying Musselman is a "west coast guy", he is from Ashland, OH.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

The big problem for Pitt in hiring Oats is that he has only been HC for 3 years, and he was given a winner. Oats has never rebuilt a losing team. And the MAC is not even as good as the AAC.

That doesn't mean that Oats could never be a great coach for Pitt. He might be the best choice.

Well we hired Stalling and he was a head coach for 17 years and how did that work out???

Oats For PITT Head Basketball Coach! Should have been the first target.

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[upj87]

I get the impression you’ve lost that loving feeling. He’s a family man. Seems this is a good time for an adult education.

uh, I can't go for that, no can do....

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

One would hope Oats would come significantly cheaper allowing us more money to hire better assistants with.

Good point...give Oats like 1.5-2 mil per year and then get some assistants who are good recruiters. It could work.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I’m sure they can make his wife a Rich Girl.

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

Good point...give Oats like 1.5-2 mil per year and then get some assistants who are good recruiters. It could work.

Either that or Get Musselman...maybe we should root for Nevada to lose so we could talk to him sooner lol...time is ticking!

Even tho it feels like January it really is nearly April!

 

[Pittx9]

I think he's a good coach. Has he shown anything in recruiting though?

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

Good point...give Oats like 1.5-2 mil per year and then get some assistants who are good recruiters. It could work.

Also, another option is to just get dirty & say enough with losing its time to be a winner!

Go after Miller & Pitino...and at least get a phone call or interview with them. Of course you would want to see if they’re clear of major issues before hiring, but no question they’d get butts in seats & bring in some top end talent.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I think he's a good coach. Has he shown anything in recruiting though?

I read his classes were #1 3 straight years in the MAC. So yea he must be able. But this would be a big step up - obviously.

Edit - Buffalo was #1 3 straight. Not sure how long Oats was there.

 

[Wagyu Beef]

Hire Oats only of he hires an assistant named Hall

 

[jtownknowitall]

Also, another option is to just get dirty & say enough with losing its time to be a winner!

Go after Miller & Pitino...and at least get a phone call or interview with them. Of course you would want to see if they’re clear of major issues before hiring, but no question they’d get butts in seats & bring in some top end talent.

Stop the nonsense. It’s not going to happen.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

I read his classes were #1 3 straight years in the MAC. So yea he must be able. But this would be a big step up - obviously.

His roster geographic distribution looks like he could be a nice recruiting fit for Pitt:

Eastover, SC
Cleveland, OH
Greensboro, NC
Malvern, OH
Cocoa, FL
Dallas, TX
Detroit, MI
N. Tonawanda, NY
Windsor, Ontario
Rochester, NY
Brooklyn, NY
Yipsilanti, MI
Abia, Nigeria
Apple Valley, MN

 

[Pittx9]

I read his classes were #1 3 straight years in the MAC. So yea he must be able. But this would be a big step up - obviously.

Edit - Buffalo was #1 3 straight. Not sure how long Oats was there.

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This was his third season. Idk for sure, but I'd guess Hurley initiated contact with the first group then left. Still, #1 at anything is pretty damn good.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

That's like Bragging about your Wife being the Sexiest woman at the Local Curves. It don't mean Shit.

His 2 2018 recruits are 142,245 in the Nation.

Well it means something. He can recruit there relative to the MAC level. But we we don’t know and really never will for anyone at that level - will it translate. Maybe, maybe not.

 

[gary2]

Oats has a recruiting class coming to Buffalo this fall that's about the same as what KS had coming to Pitt. His best recruit is more highly ranked than Golden (around #150, I believe).

And he was the assistant largely responsible for Hurley's recruiting. Of course, I'm sure Bobby was the closer until Oats got the job, but ...

Both of his current recruits are players Pitt at least looked at: Williams and Segu. Maybe Segu can handle the point.

One assistant has heavy Junior College ties, the Associate Head Coach was at St.Johns (2 yrs) and worked for Rick Majerus at St.Louis, had HC experience at Loyola (Chi)

I would imagine he would bring those two

 

[Gep Dawg]

Good point if he he can bring a couple of his guys and maybe add someone with ties to the ACC it could work. I know I like his demeanor, confidence and fire. He also seems to be a good x and o coach. I certainly think he’s a better choice than paying Hurley $3 million a year. Use the extra money to go out and put together a great staff

 

[pittfanfromNC]

Hurley was directly responsible for Oates roster. Can Oates recruit ACC type players?

Looking at the facts history presents. One can say chances are his recruiting ability will be average at best

Buffalo is number 1 in recruiting past 3 years in MAC. Has a 4 star with power 5 offers committed right now. So I don't think recruiting is an issue.

 

[hoopsguy72]

That's like Bragging about your Wife being the Sexiest woman at the Local Curves. It don't mean Shit.

His 2 2018 recruits are 142,245 in the Nation.

Bryce Golden, our best recruit was #202. Danya Kingsby more difficult to rate, as he was a JUCO. And don't give so much weight to the rankings. Parker Stewart was #273. Think the rankings got that right? I'm hearing he's attracting a lot of interest right now. Texas Tech was latest school I was told about.

 

[hoopsguy72]

That's like Bragging about your Wife being the Sexiest woman at the Local Curves. It don't mean Shit.

His 2 2018 recruits are 142,245 in the Nation.

Buffalo's recruiting class is #60 in the nation. There are around 65 P5 schools, plus throw in about five good A10 schools, about seven good AAC schools, and a rando like Gonzaga? #60 is excellent, considering who they're competing against to land in that spot.

 

[PittSqueak]

Some facts about Oats and his Buffalo team:

1) He's had the #1 recruiting ranking in the MAC all 3 years he's been there. As Hurley's assistant, Oats was the guy who recruited Justin Moss ('15 MAC POTY). Devils advocate: Moss played for Oats in HS.

2) Here are the stats that Buffalo did particularly well or not well at this season:
--FG and FGA, 2nd and 3rd in the nation
--3P and 3PA, 14th and 12th in the nation (3P% was 80th at .370)
--Total rebounds, 11th (ORB 18th, DRB 20th)
--Assists, 10th
--Turnovers, 249th (fast and loose?)
--Blocks, 43rd
--Fouls, 3rd (fast and loose confirmed)
--Scoring, 7th (2nd in total pts, 7th in pts/gm)

They play fast, so their opponents also shot a lot, rebounded a lot, and scored a lot (none of these were as much as Buffalo, however), but Buffalo's opponents did also have 44th most turnovers so that's good.

3) Last year, none of these stats were as good as they are now. Their best stats last season were Fouls (14th ... so his teams are super aggressive), rebounding (61st), and 2-pt% (65th). They had done a particularly job of keeping their opponents' 2-pt% down (34th -- opponents this year shot better against them than last year but not by a huge margin).

 

[upj87]

That's like Bragging about your Wife being the Sexiest woman at the Local Curves. It don't mean Shit.

His 2 2018 recruits are 142,245 in the Nation.

don't look to me to get that analogy as I thought Marie Osmond looked pretty hot even before she dropped that fifty....

 

[tbroman]

Musselman is a west coast guy. Guys like that HATE the East. I live in Vegas, I know. He'll move back out west asap and never really commit to Pitt, even while here.

Oats can recruit, he's cocky, and Pitt and Pittsburgh are big steps up from Buffalo, but the area isn't so different or so far that if he has a family that moving isn't too far from their base of operations now.

I'm all for an under the radar hire and be done with things now. I like Oats' intangibles. I think he is the best fit, and fit shouldn't be underestimated.

I can't go for that, no can do. No no no no no no no can do.

 

[PerchMan]

UB just named a new AD yesterday who came from Memphis. So maybe the two met and found they don't mesh....and here comes Pitt, only 6 hours away (or whatever) waving 2.75m/yr, quadruple what old boy makes now.

 

[JS School]

I can’t go for that. I prefer Hall. He was more the lead. Although his preference of playing one on one is a concern.

I prefer Hall, also. He's the tall one, he might have played some ball.

Or is Oates just tiny?

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

I prefer Hall, also. He's the tall one, he might have played some ball.

Or is Oates just tiny?

Does Oates need to eat more oatmeal?

Lol