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[Cap pitt]

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2016 5:10 pm




12 College Football Coaches Who May Be Fired If They Don’t Win In 2016
CS Staff



4. Dana Holgorsen


Twitter/@Holgorsendana

Holgorsen’s tenure at West Virginia has never been simple. That much is certain. However, the Mountaineers have slipped into mediocrity with their move to the Big 12, and that passionate fan base is growing a bit restless.

Holgorsen’s first season, which came a year early after Bill Stewart was forced out before the season, was a rousing success. In its final Big East year, West Virginia went 10-3, winning the league and blasting Clemson 70-33 in the Orange Bowl. The move to the Big 12 was a good one for the stability of the program, but the Mountaineers have been an also-ran in that league. In four Big 12 seasons, Holgorsen is 26-25, and just 20-23 in conference play.

Holgorsen was hired to take the program to the next level—a national championship level according to ex-athletic director Oliver Luck—but Stewart was 28-12 with a Fiesta Bowl win as interim coach. Granted, the Big East was an easier league, but West Virginia has slipped farther from the top of college football under Holgorsen, it hasn’t gotten closer. Rich Rodriguez set a high standard in Morgantown. Stewart failed to maintain momentum, and regression has only continued

 

[jor22]

Link http://collegespun.com/big-ten/purd...s-who-may-be-fired-if-they-dont-win-in-2016/6

 

[pitt1976]

Little Jimmy Franks is #5 on the list.

 

[Panther Holla]

Under Don Nehlen in the early 80s WVU recovered from the disastrous Frank Cignetti years and, within a decade, played for a national championship. Nehlen doesn't get the credit he deserves. His teams were tough, if unspectacular to watch. But they won with regularity and they began to stomp Pitt most of the time. WVU ascended with new facilities and an uncanny ability to recruit the state of Florida. At the same time, Pitt was spiraling downward with facilities that were subpar for the times. I often wonder how many WPIAL stars matriculated to Morgantown instead of Oakland on the basis of the physical plant alone.

Fast forward past the Big East years and WVU suffers on a number of fronts, principally geographically and competition-wise. The Mountaineers are a fish on the prairie in the Big XII and their fan base can't possibly give them the road boost that they did in the Big East days. Not only is the conference tougher, but the rise of the "other" Florida programs -- UCF, USF, FAU. FIU -- hurts WVU because kids have more options to play in their home state than they did 15-20 years ago. And a resurgent Pitt and other regional recruiting rivals like VT don't help either.

WVU would be much better off in the ACC. I hope they never get the invite.

 

[UPitt '89]

Here's the writeup on #5, James Franklin:

http://collegespun.com/big-ten/purd...s-who-may-be-fired-if-they-dont-win-in-2016/9

5. James Franklin

Twitter/@coachjfranklin
Expectations at Penn State may be a little higher than some of the other schools on this list, and with those expectations comes a shorter leash. James Franklin will enter only his third season as the Nittany Lions’ head football coach in 2016, but his seat appears to be just as hot as anyone else’s – and for good reason.
Since taking over in 2014, Franklin has yet to win more than seven games, and has not won a single game–in six attempts–against a ranked opponent. This has kept the Nittany Lions out of the Big Ten picture.
Given the team’s schedule, there is hope for both Franklin and Penn State fans in 2016. The Nittany Lions get Ohio State, Iowa and Michigan State at home this season, but have to go on the road against Michigan. Penn State will have to defend its home field if Franklin wants to keep his job secure.
Expectations will continue to be high in Happy Valley. It’s make or break for Franklin in 2016.

 

[thebadby2]

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2016 5:10 pm
Holgster has been a flop for sure. Surprised he;'s still there.



12 College Football Coaches Who May Be Fired If They Don’t Win In 2016
CS Staff



4. Dana Holgorsen


Twitter/@Holgorsendana

Holgorsen’s tenure at West Virginia has never been simple. That much is certain. However, the Mountaineers have slipped into mediocrity with their move to the Big 12, and that passionate fan base is growing a bit restless.

Holgorsen’s first season, which came a year early after Bill Stewart was forced out before the season, was a rousing success. In its final Big East year, West Virginia went 10-3, winning the league and blasting Clemson 70-33 in the Orange Bowl. The move to the Big 12 was a good one for the stability of the program, but the Mountaineers have been an also-ran in that league. In four Big 12 seasons, Holgorsen is 26-25, and just 20-23 in conference play.

Holgorsen was hired to take the program to the next level—a national championship level according to ex-athletic director Oliver Luck—but Stewart was 28-12 with a Fiesta Bowl win as interim coach. Granted, the Big East was an easier league, but West Virginia has slipped farther from the top of college football under Holgorsen, it hasn’t gotten closer. Rich Rodriguez set a high standard in Morgantown. Stewart failed to maintain momentum, and regression has only continued

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2016 5:10 pm


12 College Football Coaches Who May Be Fired If They Don’t Win In 2016
CS Staff



4. Dana Holgorsen


Twitter/@Holgorsendana

Holgorsen’s tenure at West Virginia has never been simple. That much is certain. However, the Mountaineers have slipped into mediocrity with their move to the Big 12, and that passionate fan base is growing a bit restless.

Holgorsen’s first season, which came a year early after Bill Stewart was forced out before the season, was a rousing success. In its final Big East year, West Virginia went 10-3, winning the league and blasting Clemson 70-33 in the Orange Bowl. The move to the Big 12 was a good one for the stability of the program, but the Mountaineers have been an also-ran in that league. In four Big 12 seasons, Holgorsen is 26-25, and just 20-23 in conference play.

Holgorsen was hired to take the program to the next level—a national championship level according to ex-athletic director Oliver Luck—but Stewart was 28-12 with a Fiesta Bowl win as interim coach. Granted, the Big East was an easier league, but West Virginia has slipped farther from the top of college football under Holgorsen, it hasn’t gotten closer. Rich Rodriguez set a high standard in Morgantown. Stewart failed to maintain momentum, and regression has only continued

Great OC looking to become a Great coach, but has an Offense that has to win 9 or 10 games now, not later!

Boosters are willing and waiting to eat crow if CoachRod at Arizona chooses to return to his Mountain's Mama's Alma Mater on a long and "whining" Country Road?

President Gee wanted to reduce the The Great Buyout that brought Dana to Morgantown and to keep him there, and the decision is easier in 2016 with less than 9 wins, then keeping Dana at 8 in 2016?

Credit Dana after 5 years for figuring it out that WVU can find it easier to recruit a Great Running QB that can oversee a Great Power Running Game to beat Great Passing Coaches at Baylor, TCU and Great Programs at OU and UTexas, but still hard to beat Great Coaching at OKSU and KSU?

CoachRod is a Coach in waiting, Doc Holiday may be on stand by as well?

 

[President Stache]

I hope Narduzzi and staff have this article under favorites to show each recruit.

Imagine that... PITT is the school with coaching stability.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Little Jimmy Franks is #5 on the list.

Why Recruits are now looking elsewhere and No Extension makes it more a Pressure Cooker at the Football Program Offices not the Food Service Department where Peachy Paterno is still out selling any other flavor of the day?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I hope Narduzzi and staff have this article under favorites to show each recruit. Imagine that... PITT is the school with coaching stability.

Great point and I take Narduzzi by his words and convictions he will win big at Pitt and I take President YSU Tressel's Words, Pitt Has Found Their Coach For A Long Time! Tressel grew up in Youngstown with Narduzzi and they Great Coaches coming out there every year as well as Tressel's Nephew that coached with Narduzzi at MSU!

On another note, it is like WVU Holgrsoen has had no mention in recruiting at all this year against Pitt? As if, they have been ignored? Not a good sign?

 

[pittdan77]

Here's the writeup on #5, James Franklin:

http://collegespun.com/big-ten/purd...s-who-may-be-fired-if-they-dont-win-in-2016/9

5. James Franklin

Twitter/@coachjfranklin
Expectations at Penn State may be a little higher than some of the other schools on this list, and with those expectations comes a shorter leash. James Franklin will enter only his third season as the Nittany Lions’ head football coach in 2016, but his seat appears to be just as hot as anyone else’s – and for good reason.
Since taking over in 2014, Franklin has yet to win more than seven games, and has not won a single game–in six attempts–against a ranked opponent. This has kept the Nittany Lions out of the Big Ten picture.
Given the team’s schedule, there is hope for both Franklin and Penn State fans in 2016. The Nittany Lions get Ohio State, Iowa and Michigan State at home this season, but have to go on the road against Michigan. Penn State will have to defend its home field if Franklin wants to keep his job secure.
Expectations will continue to be high in Happy Valley. It’s make or break for Franklin in 2016.

That picture cropped Tomlin and Narduzzi out. Pretty funny they chose that one our of all of the goofy "finger in the air" pics he's ever taken.

 

[Saboteur]

Nehlen was a good coach and a superb football programmer. He knew what he was and what he wasn't. Hard for coaches to admit what they don't know.
IMO he was as good as Paterno without the hypocrisy of Joe.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Saboteur, post: 849863, member: 5688"]Nehlen was a good coach and a superb football programmer. He knew what he was and what he wasn't.
Yes, and did a great job at WVU, but he also was responsible for advising CoachRod from WVU and sending him to Michigan.

In spite of all the opportunities WVU gave to Nehlen his first Head Coaching job, Nehlen was loyal and stayed at WVU. Still, his heart was always for his Alma Mater Michigan, and in the end, sent Nehlen's Former Player and WVU's Coach to them when WVU needed to keep him and Michigan needed a better Coach. Happen in Basketball too?

It did not work out for WVU, or Michigan or CoachRod exactly as planned in Football, but doing pretty good in Basketball!

Hard for coaches to admit what they don't know. IMO he was as good as Paterno without the hypocrisy of Joe.
Yes, and he too came short providing WVU with a National Championship losing to Notre Dame, just like CoachRod lost to Pitt! But neither ended up shaming WVU Name unlike Paterno?

 

[SkunkBear]

"Saboteur, post: 849863, member: 5688"]Nehlen was a good coach and a superb football programmer. He knew what he was and what he wasn't.
Yes, and did a great job at WVU, but he also was responsible for advising CoachRod from WVU and sending him to Michigan.

In spite of all the opportunities WVU gave to Nehlen his first Head Coaching job, Nehlen was loyal and stayed at WVU. Still, his heart was always for his Alma Mater Michigan, and in the end, sent Nehlen's Former Player and WVU's Coach to them when WVU needed to keep him and Michigan needed a better Coach. Happen in Basketball too?

It did not work out for WVU, or Michigan or CoachRod exactly as planned in Football, but doing pretty good in Basketball!

Hard for coaches to admit what they don't know. IMO he was as good as Paterno without the hypocrisy of Joe.
Yes, and he too came short providing WVU with a National Championship losing to Notre Dame, just like CoachRod lost to Pitt! But neither ended up shaming WVU Name unlike Paterno?

Hello captain. Just stopped by to say hello. Seen our old PSU friend recently? Ever since he was outed, he all but disappeared.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"SkunkBear, post: 870388, member: 8118"]Hello captain. Just stopped by to say hello. Seen our old PSU friend recently? Ever since he was outed, he all but disappeared.
He is still goes around coming and going hidden in his Dumpster of Shame and still making threats but all the Big Ten Posters known of how he told Nittany Lies about Pitt first then any Program or University that beat Penn State.

The entire Penn State Paterno Public Relations of slogans that were myths have been exposed too. The full Truth was just exposed on where "WE ARE" came from and how Penn State Students on Orientation Day are given another Nittany Lie about where it came from, just like the many we discussed years ago. You can find it on the Pitt Board with a thread started by a Great Posters here?

Good to see Harbaugh at Michigan and won 10 Games in first year. What a Coach from a great Coaching Family!

As always like we agreed, nothing wrong in complimenting another Great University when they accomplish somethings special too. Why some Penn State Fans think only they are different actually makes them superior somehow in reality now the world knows those kind of Fans are actually inferior. He is now known as PnnyLion but we call him PnnyLiar, and many on BWI do not care for him either!

By the way, the Lair attracted another Two Posters that Post on Michigan Boards too. One is known as Aged-Wolverine and the other is MichNittLion, both are very knowledgeable about College Football and make Superb Posts often correcting my own and I enjoy learning from them, just like I learned from you're own posts! The Lair has some Great Penn State, Bama, MSU, WVU Posters here too, so don't be a stranger?

The Best Posters posts on the Lair, in my opinion and we all learn to share together on CFB, even when we agree to disagree, just like when were on PSP Website many years ago. We had a great group did we not?

Glad you are OK too!

 

[SkunkBear]

"SkunkBear, post: 870388, member: 8118"]Hello captain. Just stopped by to say hello. Seen our old PSU friend recently? Ever since he was outed, he all but disappeared.
He is still goes around coming and going hidden in his Dumpster of Shame and still making threats but all the Big Ten Posters known of how he told Nittany Lies about Pitt first then any Program or University that beat Penn State.

The entire Penn State Paterno Public Relations of slogans that were myths have been exposed too. The full Truth was just exposed on where "WE ARE" came from and how Penn State Students on Orientation Day are given another Nittany Lie about where it acme from, just like the many we discussed years ago. You can find it on the Pitt Board with a thread started by a Great Posters here?

Good to see Harbaugh at Michigan and won 10 Games in first year. What a Coach from a great Coaching Family!

As always like we agreed, nothing wrong in complimenting another Great University when they accomplish somethings special too. Why some Penn State Fans think only they are different actually makes them superior somehow in reality now the world knows those kind of Fans are actually inferior. He is now known as PnnyLion but we call him PnnyLiar, and many on BWI do not care for him either!

By the way, the Lair attracted another Two Posters that Post on Michigan Boards too. One is known as Aged-Wolverine and the other is MichNittLion, both are very knowledgeable about College Football and make Superb Posts often correcting my own and I enjoy learning from them, just like I learned from you're own posts! The Lair has some Great Penn State, Bama, MSU, WVU Posters here too, so don't be a stranger?

The Best Posters posts on the Lair, in my opinion and we all learn to share together on CFB, even when we agree to disagree, just like when were on PSP Website many years ago. We had a great group did we not?

Glad you are OK too!

I don't know if you know that I was the one that outed him 14 months ago. How I put all the clues together to nail his ID (Ed Mastrovich) is a good story. Since then, all the threats, bluster and twisted behavior have vanished. All his courage came from anonymity that no longer is.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't know if you know that I was the one that outed him 14 months ago. How I put all the clues together to nail his ID (Ed Mastrovich) is a good story. Since then, all the threats, bluster and twisted behavior have vanished. All his courage came from anonymity that no longer is.

Yes, I know, I never worried about him, and you were right to do it the right way, and it took a Michigan Graduate to uncover a Nittany Liar that could not graduate from Penn State. He must be very upset that Hudson from his hometown of McKeesport went To Michigan over Penn State?

Just like it took some brave people at Penn State to investigate and remove a Penn State Alumnus Pedophile Employee that brought hate, hurt and shame to Penn State's Name and exposed the Paterno Non-Compliance's, that required 116 Penn State Reforms to change that CULTure in the Myths knowns as Happy Valley that always known as Nittany Valley? It is a slow process, but takes time, but good people are changing Penn State.

You did many Rivals Boards a big favor and Yahoo Security was and still is aware of him and so are some other Authorities?

We talk Football here on the Lair, and anyone like him is no longer appreciated even on Penn State Boards, and that shows how much Penn State has become since you did what needed to be done!

Don't Mess With Michigan Men, as Harbaugh Jim and John are showing the nation too! PnnyLiar learned that the Hard Way, Thanks to you!