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Huggins daughter...holy hell

I was union rep for a guy who was arrested for drunk driving and their small town paper mentioned he worked at the hospital. They fired him for defaming their institution. An arbitrator upheld the termination because precedent is strong that if you're identified with the employer (Huggins clearly is!), they have a right to disciplinary action to protect their reputation.

I'm a big second chances fan but Huggins has majorly messed up twice just in the last month or so.
Huggins would have a good defense though, as his actions pretty much upheld the reputation of his employer.
 
I was union rep for a guy who was arrested for drunk driving and their small town paper mentioned he worked at the hospital. They fired him for defaming their institution. An arbitrator upheld the termination because precedent is strong that if you're identified with the employer (Huggins clearly is!), they have a right to disciplinary action to protect their reputation.

I'm a big second chances fan but Huggins has majorly messed up twice just in the last month or so.

There are 2 reasons to fire Huggins. You cited one of them:

1. Defaming the institution - but again we are talking about WVU. Can they even be defamed?

2. Character flaw - if the employee does something that shows a deep character flaw that shows they are incapable of leading. But again....this is WVU. Does a DUI really mean Huggins cant win basketball games?
 
There are 2 reasons to fire Huggins. You cited one of them:

1. Defaming the institution - but again we are talking about WVU. Can they even be defamed?

2. Character flaw - if the employee does something that shows a deep character flaw that shows they are incapable of leading. But again....this is WVU. Does a DUI really mean Huggins cant win basketball games?
Im all for #1 as a joke but in reality a lot of people have a lot of pride in WVU in WV really respect it as a place with a great medical center and fine university, one of the biggest employers if not biggest in the state etc.
 
When you're the self annointed GOAT, you never "stop" with something as insignificant
as "embarrassment." As Allen Iverson would say....."STOP! STOP??!! IT'S ONLY A GAME!
IT'S ONLY EMBARRASSMENT!!

Ya gotta hand it to him, SMF does provide us with entertainment (bad as it is). LOL
 
Even if it was a WVU car, it is not a requirement that they fire him. Sure, a DUI in a company car is grounds for termination but WVU didnt have to.
Maybe they care about the bum? Or more likely, two major screwups in a short period was too much to absorb? Better to do it now and find a coach to fill in. And perhaps there was wording in his contract that demands it. They had fined him a million.
 
We live in a different time. Hell, at this point, if you greet someone by their biological sex, but it’s not their preferred sex, you’re on the chopping block. We live in a society of staggeringly weak people, specifically men.
So are you saying the WVU administration is “ staggeringly weak” because Huggy was either fired or resigned? Interesting take.
 
1990 was a bit different from today. Try that tonight and let us know how it goes.
I get it, things have gotten worse in every way, I'm glad I lived when I did, when everything wasn't the end of the friggin' world.
 
Even if it was a WVU car, it is not a requirement that they fire him. Sure, a DUI in a company car is grounds for termination but WVU didnt have to.
You know, I know you like to be contrarian and think you are being provocative, but in this case it is just nonsensical stupidity. You are wrong, okay. Take the L.
 
I am not defending what he did. It was really bad. I have said that. But no one was harmed. The law will take care of the situation. Shouldn't lose his job at an immoral place like WVU.
"Immoral place like WVU?" F&&k you and your constant bashing of my school in public. What is so immoral about WVU versus other places? Name another school that does more with what they've got to work with versus the crap we have to put up with from ignorant people like you.
 
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There's definitely been reeducation, "sensitivity training" and suspensions, hearings, there's crazy stuff that goes on, if a student overhears a professor saying something against the woke/gender orthodoxy and reports that, that professor will go through some crap. I don't care if you don't believe me.

"Immoral place like WVU?" F&&k you and your constant bashing of my school in public. What is so immoral about WVU versus other places? Name another school that does more with what they've got to work with versus the crap we have to put up with from ignorant people like you.

Do you really need me to answer this. It is a trashy school.
 
Do you really need me to answer this. It is a trashy school.
I think you probably should. Do they have some trashy fans that take things too far *like when my windows were broken into after 13-9, totally worth it btw* yes. Most fan bases have nut jobs though.

It’s not even close to as creepy, disgusting, perverted or abhorrent as Penn State. Everything about Penn State is a creepy cult. WVU just has a hillbilly culture but there are good rational people there as well who wanted Huggins no longer apart of or representing their university. People still drive around 409 stickers or say success with honor while their professors are humping dogs
 
I think you probably should. Do they have some trashy fans that take things too far *like when my windows were broken into after 13-9, totally worth it btw* yes. Most fan bases have nut jobs though.

It’s not even close to as creepy, disgusting, perverted or abhorrent as Penn State. Everything about Penn State is a creepy cult. WVU just has a hillbilly culture but there are good rational people there as well who wanted Huggins no longer apart of or representing their university. People still drive around 409 stickers or say success with honor while their professors are humping dogs
These are good points. I think at every school there are scales of prioritization of winning and tolerance for bad behavior by sports heroes. I have to say I am impressed that WVU has one that finally was breached. I thought for sure that they would swing a deal to let him stay on contingent on a successful rehab completion. It would have been fairly easy to pull off, really. But to their credit, this event was a (Ft Pitt) bridge too far, even for them. They actually had a line in the sand.

Pitt’s line would have been much further back of course. The mere gay comment about Xavier would have meant instant termination at Pitt. The DUI thing, it never would have gotten to that. In fact Huggins would never have been hired at Pitt in the first place going back to previous scandals. Winning doesn’t mean anything to Pitt in comparison, actually to a fault.

But in comparison, does anyone sitting here think that PsU would have pushed out a highly accomplished men’s football coach (the only sport that matters to them) for a gay comment? For a mere DUI? Their current coach engineered a co-Ed rape ring and threatened a victim to stay silent at his previous job. That was gleefully condoned by PSU. Before that, it took exposure of the most heinous scandal in sports history, rapes of children that had gone on for thirty years, before they reluctantly cut ties with Paterno. And they only did it because he was past his prime and many wanted a new coach. They also still clamor to honor him there every day. Nothing, nothing, nothing is further down in the dregs than that place. WVU is a billion percent better.
 
These are good points. I think at every school there are scales of prioritization of winning and tolerance for bad behavior by sports heroes. I have to say I am impressed that WVU has one that finally was breached. I thought for sure that they would swing a deal to let him stay on contingent on a successful rehab completion. It would have been fairly easy to pull off, really. But to their credit, this event was a (Ft Pitt) bridge too far, even for them. They actually had a line in the sand.

Pitt’s line would have been much further back of course. The mere gay comment about Xavier would have meant instant termination at Pitt. The DUI thing, it never would have gotten to that. In fact Huggins would never have been hired at Pitt in the first place going back to previous scandals. Winning doesn’t mean anything to Pitt in comparison, actually to a fault.

But in comparison, does anyone sitting here think that PsU would have pushed out a highly accomplished men’s football coach (the only sport that matters to them) for a gay comment? For a mere DUI? Their current coach engineered a co-Ed rape ring and threatened a victim to stay silent at his previous job. That was gleefully condoned by PSU. Before that, it took exposure of the most heinous scandal in sports history, rapes of children that had gone on for thirty years, before they reluctantly cut ties with Paterno. And they only did it because he was past his prime and many wanted a new coach. They also still clamor to honor him there every day. Nothing, nothing, nothing is further down in the dregs than that place. WVU is a billion percent better.
With how this coaching search went, I think they *should have* let Huggins go to rehab and comeback at this point. Quick PR hit then it’s over. This is a disaster for them when they could’ve had a special year.
 
"Immoral place like WVU?" F&&k you and your constant bashing of my school in public. What is so immoral about WVU versus other places? Name another school that does more with what they've got to work with versus the crap we have to put up with from ignorant people like you.
Your school literally gave degrees away to person that jacked up pharma prices because her daddy was a big donor.


WVU is a shit institution.
 
With how this coaching search went, I think they *should have* let Huggins go to rehab and comeback at this point. Quick PR hit then it’s over. This is a disaster for them when they could’ve had a special year.
That’s the point, they could have done the rehab deal and not endured very much pR hit. For one, his alcoholism was hardly a secret, and it actually had transcended judgement. Who didn’t hear about that incident, and just kind of shrug and say, oh well, that’s just Huggy? Plus, everyone in media is ultra Woke so came down hard for the Xavier comments. But they are, by and large, also drunks and stoners (inebriation is a common thread with celebrity and media). So there wasn’t much condemnation of him for his event, incredibly bad as it was (when you really read the details).

Think of Pitt’s own beloved announcer. We’d be pretty hypocritical ourselves to bust on WVU fit keeping Huggy. Fans of many schools have skeletons in the closets, perhaps not as soused as Hugs but not exactly prideful. There wasn’t really much mockery that there could have been.

So the rehab scam would have worked just fine. Maybe they thought they’d score a quality coach and didn’t realize they’d have to settle for the sucky assistant? Either way they “did the right thing” Vs take the easy way out and secure their chances for victory. You have to credit that.
 
Do you really need me to answer this. It is a trashy school.

You need to take a look around at some Pitt fans. They're different than wvu fans mainly because they come from all over the country while wvu is mostly a state of wv school, like 75% is. And our admission standards are substantially higher than wvu's. So what? CCAC's admission standards are lower than ours too, but they've got some fine students and fine people there.

Many Pitt fans don't have anything to look down their noses on with a wvu fan. We have our share of creeps, trash, and dicks. No, we don't do some of the crazy things that wvu fans do. We just do our own crazy things.
 
I think you probably should. Do they have some trashy fans that take things too far *like when my windows were broken into after 13-9, totally worth it btw* yes. Most fan bases have nut jobs though.


That's what I've said many times before. Every fan base, all of them, has their share of, let's call them idiots. The percentage might be, or heck, IS higher at West Virginia. But everyone has them. Even us.
 
"Immoral place like WVU?" F&&k you and your constant bashing of my school in public. What is so immoral about WVU versus other places? Name another school that does more with what they've got to work with versus the crap we have to put up with from ignorant people like you.
Well....since we are going there let's....

WVU is facing budget issues. It is cutting grad programs and classes, professors, raising tuition. I am betting they and your donors though are upping the ante on sports. It seems to be for many universities they now have become athletics, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, academics falls behind that.

 
Well....since we are going there let's....

WVU is facing budget issues. It is cutting grad programs and classes, professors, raising tuition. I am betting they and your donors though are upping the ante on sports. It seems to be for many universities they now have become athletics, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, academics falls behind that.


I have to agree with this. wvu is well known to prioritize sports well before anything academic. Much like PissU. So the quality of the education, if you can call it an education, suffers immensely. Look at what they spend on their sports teams, especially football and basketball, and of course rifle shooting. Their basketball team, at least the one that was there before Huggy was fired, was one of the best that money could buy. That's just sick. wvu does have a problem with priorities.
 
I have to agree with this. wvu is well known to prioritize sports well before anything academic. Much like PissU. So the quality of the education, if you can call it an education, suffers immensely. Look at what they spend on their sports teams, especially football and basketball, and of course rifle shooting. Their basketball team, at least the one that was there before Huggy was fired, was one of the best that money could buy. That's just sick. wvu does have a problem with priorities.
They are not alone. $EC. Most of the Big 12. Even Big 10, Maryland leaving for the $$$ just to be a patsy.
 
Is Pitt guilty?? Victory Heights??
Maybe guilty of misplaced priorities as well, except Victory Heights will do nothing but hemorrhage money (rather than make it), and nobody will notice a thing about the sports that go on there (thus not helping raise Pitt’s overall profile).
Who else but Pitt …
 
Maybe guilty of misplaced priorities as well, except Victory Heights will do nothing but hemorrhage money (rather than make it), and nobody will notice a thing about the sports that go on there (thus not helping raise Pitt’s overall profile).
Who else but Pitt …
Never underestimate how victory heights was a ruse for Walt Harris stadium
 
It’s not like Pitt is only building Victory Heights. All of these are active construction projects on campus right now:

Hillman Library expansion: https://oaklandpittsburgh.com/media...dzX2hpbGxtYW4ucGRmIl1d/renderings hillman.pdf

New student recreation center:

New ten-story tower on Fifth/Halket (likely research lab space): https://www.facilities.pitt.edu/fifth-and-halket-new-construction
 
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Welp... she kinda has a point w/ regards to Gordon Gee. Jesus... the boy had early onset dementia when I met him 25 years ago. I can only imagine whats going on now. Probably wearing depends and like Huggs can't remember how he got from Columbus to Morgantown.
Maybe he is considering a run for President.
 
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I think you probably should. Do they have some trashy fans that take things too far *like when my windows were broken into after 13-9, totally worth it btw* yes. Most fan bases have nut jobs though.

It’s not even close to as creepy, disgusting, perverted or abhorrent as Penn State. Everything about Penn State is a creepy cult. WVU just has a hillbilly culture but there are good rational people there as well who wanted Huggins no longer apart of or representing their university. People still drive around 409 stickers or say success with honor while their professors are humping dogs

I agree with you on PSU for sure. And obviously every school has plenty of good people. That kinda goes without saying.
 
These are good points. I think at every school there are scales of prioritization of winning and tolerance for bad behavior by sports heroes. I have to say I am impressed that WVU has one that finally was breached. I thought for sure that they would swing a deal to let him stay on contingent on a successful rehab completion. It would have been fairly easy to pull off, really. But to their credit, this event was a (Ft Pitt) bridge too far, even for them. They actually had a line in the sand.

Pitt’s line would have been much further back of course. The mere gay comment about Xavier would have meant instant termination at Pitt. The DUI thing, it never would have gotten to that. In fact Huggins would never have been hired at Pitt in the first place going back to previous scandals. Winning doesn’t mean anything to Pitt in comparison, actually to a fault.

But in comparison, does anyone sitting here think that PsU would have pushed out a highly accomplished men’s football coach (the only sport that matters to them) for a gay comment? For a mere DUI? Their current coach engineered a co-Ed rape ring and threatened a victim to stay silent at his previous job. That was gleefully condoned by PSU. Before that, it took exposure of the most heinous scandal in sports history, rapes of children that had gone on for thirty years, before they reluctantly cut ties with Paterno. And they only did it because he was past his prime and many wanted a new coach. They also still clamor to honor him there every day. Nothing, nothing, nothing is further down in the dregs than that place. WVU is a billion percent better.

Correct that Pitt wouldn't have allowed Huggins to coach here in the 1st place. They wouldnt even take Cal when he was begging for the job after Howland.
 
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I have to agree with this. wvu is well known to prioritize sports well before anything academic. Much like PissU. So the quality of the education, if you can call it an education, suffers immensely. Look at what they spend on their sports teams, especially football and basketball, and of course rifle shooting. Their basketball team, at least the one that was there before Huggy was fired, was one of the best that money could buy. That's just sick. wvu does have a problem with priorities.
The best money could buy? And who paid for it because it sure as $hit wasn't the school paying the NIL dollars. It's a private individual's business how they spend their money. And WVU is one of the very few schools who don't use taxpayer dollars to run their athletic department--at least not the way most schools do. Tuition isn't paid for by the state. The athletic department is self sufficient for the most part.
Now WVU, like all those cheating schools out there that illegally bought championships, gets to pay players legally thru their donors and you guys don't like it. It's called a level playing field now. Besides, NIL is not the problem. It's the transfer portal with no scholly signing rules or commitments from the student athletes.
WVU and its people care as much about academics as any other school but but you don't just snap your fingers and become top 100. Too much has to change for WVU to drastically change academically, like more population and less freakin hills.
 
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