15 for 35 is not going to make it . CV is not much of an upgrade on a broken down PJ . Time to warm up Nate .
I’m sorry CV.
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Agree but this staff stinks and are too stupid to give Nate his shot.
The staff knew what they had behind Jurk which is why they were slow to make a change. I suspect they know what they have in Nate too. Although, Pats pregame interview made me think that Nate would get some snaps yesterday.
Things are definitely different in football now, at least in Pittsburgh. Sucky QBs are kept in until the bitter, inevitable end. These idiot coaches don’t care that the team is getting nationally mocked and that the paying customers are being cheated. It’s either coaching arrogance, coaching laziness, coaching stubbornness, and/or the coaching cowardice (that future QBs won’t be swayed to commit if not promised to play every second even if they’re terrible). I think it is all of these things but mostly the latter, which is truly pathetic…you would keep in a terrible QB and lose on purpose because you’d be afraid a fat slow dull witted absolute failure like Jurkovec wouldn’t commit to you???? More pussyfication of a once great sport.
I’d consider giving Yarnell a tryout to end the season. CV has a better arm than Phil but has been just as inaccurate with more interception and little production in terms of touchdowns.
I think he is still much better than PJ, as he is far more intelligent, has a better arm and better decision making, but lacks athleticism and running ability
That being said, totally agree with you. Honestly, it is insane we could have found 2 QBs through the transfer portal that are so incredibly inaccurate. But, again, a lot falls on the OC being so uninventive and so resistant to try to exploit the opponents weaknesses and instead just stubbornly push your game plan
Maybe CV being so inaccurate has something to do with receivers running bad routes and/or poor communication between the QB and the receivers. Again, the coaching of the receivers and QB is poor at best.
Opponents matter. FSU and ND are both top 5 pass defenses in the nation.
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I called for Yarney several times during yesterday's game. He should've played the 4th quarter.
The damn guy has only started 4 games. Lets give him the whole off season and camp, and the offense a new OC and oline coach, before saying the young man sucks.
The offense as a whole is awlful. I want to see him in a non pro offense. These college offenses are QB friendly. That dumb ass statement Duzz had about him only having like 3 reads in the PSU offense is what is needed.
This whole thing is on Duzz. He knows and want nothing to do with the offensive side of the ball. You need an innovative offense in college. He is too worried about the offense scoring too quickly for his defense. Its ridicouloua
The offense as a whole is awlful. I want to see him in a non pro offense. These college offenses are QB friendly. That dumb ass statement Duzz had about him only having like 3 reads in the PSU offense is what is needed.
This whole thing is on Duzz. He knows and want nothing to do with the offensive side of the ball. You need an innovative offense in college. He is too worried about the offense scoring too quickly for his defense. Its ridicouloua
Tino was a 4. CV is a 3. Jurkovec a 1. CV can improve though.
15 for 35 is terrible. 50% passing is bad. More INTs than TDs is bad. He can have a full offseason, but right now he's playing bad football.
You can't afford to not bring a transfer in. These next three games and the new OC will determine if that needs to be a grad transfer who is all but guaranteed the job or a multi-year transfer who can compete with CV for the job.
And maybe Dieffennach comes out of nowhere in the meantime.
And maybe Dieffennach comes out of nowhere in the meantime.
vs FSU and at ND though. He may not be the answer but he had 2 years left and had played good teams and can get better.
Part of that is lack of WR talent and Bartholomew taken out of the passing game. But again, those are 2 good teams. Louisville may go 11-1 and beat ND. UNC is extremely talented.
Poor talent, scheme, etc., those numbers aren't good and it isn't the type of performance that should lock a QB into a starting job heading into next season. The eye test is certainly different, but the production for PJ and CV is nearly identical, with CV producing more turnovers.
CV a 3. Jurkovec a 1. Like I said. He is a slight upgrade over Jurkovec but with a higher upside being only a sophomore. And his all-time brain fart against Wake literally cost us the game. I dont excuse him for that. Get the 1st down and jog easily out of bounds. No need to stay in bounds.
I dont think you guarantee him the starting spot next year but Pitt is in a tough position. They arent going to be able to get a premier transfer QB. So lets say they are looking at a decent G5 guy and P5 backup, you pretty much do have to guarantee them the starting spot to get them to come but those guys, neither of whom are really that great, would be scared off by the fact that Pitt returns their starting QB. So a few bad games and they feel they are done and CV is in. Its a really tough spot.
He totally pissed down his leg against UNC.
I thought he played fairly well against Louisville once he settled down. I think he started the game with 5 or 6 incompletions.
ND & FSU are tough for any QB. Keeping it positive, I think Saturday was a nice bounce back game from a horrific outing at Notre Dame.
He really needs to start completing a lot higher percentage in these next 3 games and start finishing drives.
Doesnt appear to be the case, as the receivers seem to be open most the time. Apparently CV is on record saying Cignetti is the best QB coach he has ever had, said he sits down after every game and goes over ever play in detail and highlights were CV could have done better. Not sure about the receiver coaching, Underwood seems to be pretty good, but I honestly never heard anything about him from the players other than he kicks arse in the recruiting process.
I think Cignetti actually is a really good player coach, he just sucks majorly at calling the plays or adapting to defenses, spotting opponents weaknesses, making in game adjustments (well, since he seems not to), playing the wrong guys, or keeping the wrong guys in the game, and just about anything having to do with the actual game planning.
Don’t understand how people already are already giving up on CV. He has four starts and three were against top teams. Just too early to throw in the towel.
Pickett threw for 580 yards in his first 4 games in 2018. Veilleux has thrown for 873 in his 4 starts this year. I don't have the stars on completion percentage.
I'm really looking forward to what CV can do these last 3 games.
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Not giving up on him. But he has to produce now with wins. He's getting paid good money to win. So is everybody else on that team. Win or make room for players who will win.
The point about money changing things and these kids being closer to pros isn’t wrong. But money doesn’t automatically make anyone better. Some kids will still need to develop. For the money Pitt’s got they’re not getting tons of kids who are coming here and playing and winning immediately.
Then the staff gotta go. You have to recognize has a coach that sometimes your practices don’t give an accurate indicator of what your players can be. Especially if it’s a controlled environment and it’s a routine. Great quarterbacks often times are awful in practice. And he reminds me of how I saw that Joe Flacco could be a pro quarterback, and be better than Palko, but Walt Harris never gave him a chance to beat him out at practice. That means that you have to change up your practices and of course, if your offensive coordinator doesn’t know how to evaluate quarterbacks, he won’t know how to foster a environment that will produce a game ready quarterback.
Flacco had a better arm, and maybe a higher ceiling, but Palko was a year older, and I'm sure TP had better command of the offense. It had to be obvious that Palko was going to give Pitt the better chance to win in '04.
I could see that, but they buried him on the depth chart. I think they even had Luke Getsy in front of him even though Luke is a good quarterback, they never really gave him a chance to beat any of those guys out.
It kills me when people bring up Flacco. Not one person batted an eye when he left Pitt. No one had even seen him play. But he goes to lowly Delaware, playing against low level teams and have a good few years. But still not a peep out of Pitt fans, until he go pro and win a couple super bowls. Now he is in every post about QBs.
Nate is the only one with a more accurate arm, pj threw most short and medium passes at the receivers feet, cv throws everything over the receivers head, ny threw 2 passes on the mone, might have been late in the d game against 3rd team but still on the money
It's unbelievable Narduzzi can't recruit a decent QB, oh wait look at his Offensive coordinator.
realistically speaking, what are the odds that our QB room is empty with Jurk graduating, Yarney transferring and CV doing the same?
not sure if CV will have enough credits to graduate and be eligible for a 2nd transfer but if so, it would probably be in his best interest to transfer down a level to match his talents.
i still dont think Yarney will leave though, especially if CV and Jurk arent in the picture. but needless to say, Duzzer and Cignetti are going to have to find at least 2 qbs in the portal, which is scary for many reasons. those two QB experts..
not sure if CV will have enough credits to graduate and be eligible for a 2nd transfer but if so, it would probably be in his best interest to transfer down a level to match his talents.
i still dont think Yarney will leave though, especially if CV and Jurk arent in the picture. but needless to say, Duzzer and Cignetti are going to have to find at least 2 qbs in the portal, which is scary for many reasons. those two QB experts..
I hope CV does leave, or is at least #3 on the depth chart next season. He stinks.
I want a QB that protects the ball, don't care how far he can throw it over the receivers head's.
If Cignetti is still here it wont matter anyways, might as well cancel next season now.
I want a QB that protects the ball, don't care how far he can throw it over the receivers head's.
If Cignetti is still here it wont matter anyways, might as well cancel next season now.
Wow. Did you want Pickett to leave after 2019?
The offense was anemic for 2 whole years with Kenny behind center.
no and terrible comparison, KP even early in his career actually showed promise. this penn state kid is terrible.
I think CV shows plenty of promise or potential. KP didn't even have a 200 yard passing game until late in 2018 against Wake Forest. Threw for 2 yds per qtr against Clemson in the ACC Championship.
