I bet Narduzzi is a lot lot Les Miles for game planning. Gimmicks will be seen

[mdpitt]

just to get some extra exposure but it is totally within their areas of strength. I really think Narduzzi is going to be a "Mad Hatter" like Les Miles of LSU and that is a great thing. He is predictably unpredictable which leads to other teams being uneasy on both sides of the ball. He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules but I bet OC Jim Chaney makes it a lot more easy on the eyes this year. If you haven't watched Michigan State's Defense, I hope it translates in looks this year. We simply don't have the level of talent yet but recruits will see the blueprint. Michigan State sure looked like Blitzburgh with Rod Woodson and crew.

So some good ol' College Chicanery we will see:

James Conner plays some snaps on Defense in critical parts of the game on Third down when he is a Heisman contender. Voters love that stuff and it certainly won't hurt us.

Boyd scoring touchdowns 4 ways in one game. Receiving, Rushing, Punt Return And Kickoff return. Make it happen against YSU so the highlight runs all year for Voters.

Voytik catches a TD from Conner or Boyd.

I would be shocked if we don't see multiple fake kicks or punts.

We will go for it much more inside the opponent 45 on 4th down.

Expect a ridiculous Statue of Liberty Play.

Expect us not to call a timeout on 4th and short because everyone knows we are running the ball and we actually get a 4th down.

We will be very aggressive on defense leaving man coverage deep often. Learn to live with giving up some long TDs but really dialing up the pressure resulting in bad decisions by their QB.

Bottom line, I think we are in for some fun as fans.

 

[H2Pittisit]

Well, no need to watch the season now.

 

[Pghfan]

Pitt fans are underestimating the time it takes to implement a new offensive system. Our OC says 3 years minimum, his quote. Took big Ben a few years with the Steelers and he is a veteran. Gonna be hiccups boys, always is with new systems

 

[HailToPitt71]

just to get some extra exposure but it is totally within their areas of strength. I really think Narduzzi is going to be a "Mad Hatter" like Les Miles of LSU and that is a great thing. He is predictably unpredictable which leads to other teams being uneasy on both sides of the ball. He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules but I bet OC Jim Chaney makes it a lot more easy on the eyes this year. If you haven't watched Michigan State's Defense, I hope it translates in looks this year. We simply don't have the level of talent yet but recruits will see the blueprint. Michigan State sure looked like Blitzburgh with Rod Woodson and crew.

So some good ol' College Chicanery we will see:

James Conner plays some snaps on Defense in critical parts of the game on Third down when he is a Heisman contender. Voters love that stuff and it certainly won't hurt us.

Boyd scoring touchdowns 4 ways in one game. Receiving, Rushing, Punt Return And Kickoff return. Make it happen against YSU so the highlight runs all year for Voters.

Voytik catches a TD from Conner or Boyd.

I would be shocked if we don't see multiple fake kicks or punts.

We will go for it much more inside the opponent 45 on 4th down.

Expect a ridiculous Statue of Liberty Play.

Expect us not to call a timeout on 4th and short because everyone knows we are running the ball and we actually get a 4th down.

We will be very aggressive on defense leaving man coverage deep often. Learn to live with giving up some long TDs but really dialing up the pressure resulting in bad decisions by their QB.

Bottom line, I think we are in for some fun as fans.

What do you mean by: He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules

 

[HailToPitt71]

Pitt fans are underestimating the time it takes to implement a new offensive system. Our OC says 3 years minimum, his quote. Took big Ben a few years with the Steelers and he is a veteran. Gonna be hiccups boys, always is with new systems

I agree, but I think the learning curve gets shortened by bringing Peterman in.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

just to get some extra exposure but it is totally within their areas of strength. I really think Narduzzi is going to be a "Mad Hatter" like Les Miles of LSU and that is a great thing. He is predictably unpredictable which leads to other teams being uneasy on both sides of the ball. He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules but I bet OC Jim Chaney makes it a lot more easy on the eyes this year. If you haven't watched Michigan State's Defense, I hope it translates in looks this year. We simply don't have the level of talent yet but recruits will see the blueprint. Michigan State sure looked like Blitzburgh with Rod Woodson and crew.

So some good ol' College Chicanery we will see:

James Conner plays some snaps on Defense in critical parts of the game on Third down when he is a Heisman contender. Voters love that stuff and it certainly won't hurt us. Boyd scoring touchdowns 4 ways in one game. Receiving, Rushing, Punt Return And Kickoff return. Make it happen against YSU so the highlight runs all year for Voters.

Voytik catches a TD from Conner or Boyd.

I would be shocked if we don't see multiple fake kicks or punts.

We will go for it much more inside the opponent 45 on 4th down.

Expect a ridiculous Statue of Liberty Play.

Expect us not to call a timeout on 4th and short because everyone knows we are running the ball and we actually get a 4th down.

We will be very aggressive on defense leaving man coverage deep often. Learn to live with giving up some long TDs but really dialing up the pressure resulting in bad decisions by their QB.

Bottom line, I think we are in for some fun as fans.

I sense the same thing but those will be gambles and that can blow up more than win games the steady way. I like everything you posted, but that will take time, and if not implemented properly, can easily go south in a hurry.

We will know in YSU game on seeing how the attitude has changed and the Pitt Pat & Staff has adjusted to the Players and the Players adjust to listening and executing together.

It take 6 to 7 Plays to win Football games by 2 to 4 Players on a Consistent basis that prevails at critical times and play smart football with Execution of the Offensive Game Plan, as well as disruption of the other Teams Game Plans on Defense and attention to Special Teams not to lose Games.

Moreover, there is a Coaches Adage...for every Freshmen you start expect one loss!

So Little Done So Much To Do! In less than 100 days now!

 

[vegasgreed]

so far he's 0-0 as a head coach. time will tell. his assistants will have a big impact on his future.

 

[mdpitt]

What do you mean by: He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules

Many people will say that everyone plays by the same rules. I am suggesting that boosters of SEC schools have a large influence and the admissions standards are loose.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Pitt fans are underestimating the time it takes to implement a new offensive system. Our OC says 3 years minimum, his quote. Took big Ben a few years with the Steelers and he is a veteran. Gonna be hiccups boys, always is with new systems

Great Posts, short but Spot On! This is my biggest fear, kind of reminds how Wannstedt came in with High Expectation, but his Offensive System was not a West Coast and it took 3 years just to build up his O-Line in spite of having a few great Players like Revis and later McCoy!

So much is going to depend on OC Chaney decides to tweak and oversee the Offense that is pretty much all back, finds and has Wideouts to compliment Boyd, and how his SEC mentality will either continue Chryst Type Plays, excel and make them better, or cause confusion and lose some conntiunity that was seen the last 5 games on Offense last year at a very productive pace and scoring. In addition, avoiding major injuries to a few key Players.

On Defense, I expect not just confusion as they adjust but big mistakes in implementing those adjustments to the way Coach Pay will expect, and hope some MSU Spartan Board Posters inform us on what to expect? Let us face that the Defense is going to need major rebuilding and the talent may just not be there right now, and even if it is, learning it takes time along with developing their bodies to take and give major hits.

Finally, look at the Opposing Coaching Staffs Coach Pat & Staff will be facing......Pelini, Bowden, Ferrentz, Beamer, London, Johnson, Fedora, Cutcliffe, Petrino, and Golden! Even Cuse is a Traditional Rival and always give Pitt a game.

Coach Pat & Staff has it work cut out before the first Game day and PGHFAN is Spot on, new Coaches learning about Players they have to evaluate, blend, mix, and make them execute takes time, not happening over night. I will be happy to see progress as the season goes along and I am looking to The UVA Game at Pitt as seeing if Progress is made by the 4th game on Defense and Special Teams.

Expectations are always sky high, but Reality is always closer to the ground!

 

[OriginalEther]

Many people will say that everyone plays by the same rules. I am suggesting that boosters of SEC schools have a large influence and the admissions standards are loose.

True, but I don't think the SEC's admissions standards have much impact on the amount of College Chicanery we see on gameday, other than having better players.

Personally, my guess is that if Narduzzi is like anybody, it's Bo Pelini, given that they are both energetic defensive coordinators from Youngstown, who got their first head coaching job at a place that had just let go of Steve Pederson.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Many people will say that everyone plays by the same rules. I am suggesting that boosters of SEC schools have a large influence and the admissions standards are loose.

Also, has different Freshmen NCAA Eligibility Rules rules, giving them some advantages!
LINK:
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Boar...fair-advantage-over-other-conferences-3481369

NCAA ER LINK:
http://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-eligibility.htm

 

[HailToPitt71]

Many people will say that everyone plays by the same rules. I am suggesting that boosters of SEC schools have a large influence and the admissions standards are loose.

How does the abundance of boosters in the SEC influence the calls that are made on the field? Surely, you are not suggesting that LSU is privy to some secret society that draws up plays in an alley laced with the smell of urine and vomit on Bourbon Street and then Les Miles dials them up on game day, are you?

Sorry, just confused. And admittedly slightly sarcastic.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

True, but I don't think the SEC's admissions standards have much impact on the amount of College Chicanery we see on gameday, other than having better players.

Personally, my guess is that if Narduzzi is like anybody, it's Bo Pelini, given that they are both energetic defensive coordinators from Youngstown, who got their first head coaching job at a place that had just let go of Steve Pederson.

Good observation, thank you!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

How does the abundance of boosters in the SEC influence the calls that are made on the field? Surely, you are not suggesting that LSU is privy to some secret society that draws up plays in an alley laced with the smell of urine and vomit on Bourbon Street and then Les Miles dials them up on game day, are you? Sorry, just confused. And admittedly slightly sarcastic.

The influence is the availability of Players in SEC compared to other 4 Power Conferences is what I am seeing is his point along with taking great risks with play calling.

Here is Comment and Link on SEC Advantages over the other Power Conferences and of course putting lightweights towards the end of their Schedules for injury healing and really a practice scrimmage for Back-Ups that may be needed later that season.

"""""This is an excerpt from an ESPN article about the SEC addressing oversigning: Saban, who coached in the Big Ten at Michigan State, said it would be a huge mistake to go to a hard cap similar to what the Big Ten uses. The Big Ten schools are required to establish a budget number for how many scholarship offers they can give and can't go more than three over what they have room for under the 85 limit. "In my opinion, it would really affect the quality in our league," Saban said. "You can't know the attrition from signing day until August, which guys who're going to be fifth-year seniors that decide they don't want to come back and play football. Well, you can't count those guys. You're going to have to tell those guys they're going to have to decide in January. "We don't have academic issues here at Alabama. I don't think we've had a guy that needed to go to summer school to get eligible for two years, but some schools lose guys academically. We haven't had that issue here. But at Michigan State, we lost eight guys one summer. Now, how do you overcome that?"

Two things pop out at me in this excerpt:
1) In terms of quality of their league. Big Ten sticks to the 85 limit. SEC typically signs up to 100 players. 15 extra players goes a long way. Also, weak argument Saban makes about fifth-year seniors...that you can't count on them coming back to play football. Really? I can see maybe with one or two players but I don't think it warrants each team to oversign by 5 to 7 players in a class.
2) At Michigan State, Saban lost 8 players in a summer. At Alabama, that doesn't happen. No wonder Duron Carter is transferring to Alabama.


Comments:
The ineligible players argument that Saban makes is laughable. That is exactly the point of measures (such as the APR) that the NCAA has made since Saban coached MSU. Their message is clear: You better make sure the players you recruit can handle college academics or you will be playing with fewer than the full complement of scholarship athletes. Recruit athletes who are more academically sound and/or provide them the tutoring. But don't whine about the possibility of your players becoming ineligible.

Comment:
You only need look to the current BCS champion, who over the last 4 years signed more kids than anyone in the country. Go to oversigning.com and have a look. The last 4 years Auburn has signed classes of 30 29 28 32. That is 119 kids and only 85 scholarships over the same period."""""""""""
LINK:
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Boar...fair-advantage-over-other-conferences-3481369

 

[HailToPitt71]

The influence is the availability of Players in SEC compared to other 4 Power Conferences is what I am seeing is his point along with taking great risks with play calling.

Here is Comment and Link on SEC Advantages over the other Power Conferences and of course putting lightweights towards the end of their Schedules for injury healing and really a practice scrimmage for Back-Ups that may be needed later that season.

"""""This is an excerpt from an ESPN article about the SEC addressing oversigning: Saban, who coached in the Big Ten at Michigan State, said it would be a huge mistake to go to a hard cap similar to what the Big Ten uses. The Big Ten schools are required to establish a budget number for how many scholarship offers they can give and can't go more than three over what they have room for under the 85 limit. "In my opinion, it would really affect the quality in our league," Saban said. "You can't know the attrition from signing day until August, which guys who're going to be fifth-year seniors that decide they don't want to come back and play football. Well, you can't count those guys. You're going to have to tell those guys they're going to have to decide in January. "We don't have academic issues here at Alabama. I don't think we've had a guy that needed to go to summer school to get eligible for two years, but some schools lose guys academically. We haven't had that issue here. But at Michigan State, we lost eight guys one summer. Now, how do you overcome that?"

Two things pop out at me in this excerpt:
1) In terms of quality of their league. Big Ten sticks to the 85 limit. SEC typically signs up to 100 players. 15 extra players goes a long way. Also, weak argument Saban makes about fifth-year seniors...that you can't count on them coming back to play football. Really? I can see maybe with one or two players but I don't think it warrants each team to oversign by 5 to 7 players in a class.
2) At Michigan State, Saban lost 8 players in a summer. At Alabama, that doesn't happen. No wonder Duron Carter is transferring to Alabama.


Comments:
The ineligible players argument that Saban makes is laughable. That is exactly the point of measures (such as the APR) that the NCAA has made since Saban coached MSU. Their message is clear: You better make sure the players you recruit can handle college academics or you will be playing with fewer than the full complement of scholarship athletes. Recruit athletes who are more academically sound and/or provide them the tutoring. But don't whine about the possibility of your players becoming ineligible.

Comment:
You only need look to the current BCS champion, who over the last 4 years signed more kids than anyone in the country. Go to oversigning.com and have a look. The last 4 years Auburn has signed classes of 30 29 28 32. That is 119 kids and only 85 scholarships over the same period."""""""""""
LINK:
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Boar...fair-advantage-over-other-conferences-3481369

If this was an thread about the talent level of rosters in the SEC compared to the rest of college football then these points stand on solid ground. But to say their lack of limitations and controls will affect the outcome of what plays Chaney will call is just not right. A quick glance at the schedule shows we don't play any SEC teams this year (with the possible exception of a bowl game) so the defenses we face will be constructed under similar limitations when compared to the SEC. The ACC teams are all recruiting from, to a certain extent, a similar talent pool. You can obviously make a case that the southern teams have a better pool of players to choose from and we sift through the left overs. If that was the argument, I would buy it. Its my thought that the only teams that will affect our play calling are the teams we play.

I'm sorry but saying that the SEC recruiting effects our play calling is just not accurate. Some of their tactics (listed above) are obviously not god for the game, but this relationship is a bit of a stretch.

 

[H2Pittisit]

Captain really derailed this thread with his novels!

 

[Jpripper88]

just to get some extra exposure but it is totally within their areas of strength. I really think Narduzzi is going to be a "Mad Hatter" like Les Miles of LSU and that is a great thing. He is predictably unpredictable which leads to other teams being uneasy on both sides of the ball. He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules but I bet OC Jim Chaney makes it a lot more easy on the eyes this year. If you haven't watched Michigan State's Defense, I hope it translates in looks this year. We simply don't have the level of talent yet but recruits will see the blueprint. Michigan State sure looked like Blitzburgh with Rod Woodson and crew.

So some good ol' College Chicanery we will see:

James Conner plays some snaps on Defense in critical parts of the game on Third down when he is a Heisman contender. Voters love that stuff and it certainly won't hurt us.

Boyd scoring touchdowns 4 ways in one game. Receiving, Rushing, Punt Return And Kickoff return. Make it happen against YSU so the highlight runs all year for Voters.

Voytik catches a TD from Conner or Boyd.

I would be shocked if we don't see multiple fake kicks or punts.

We will go for it much more inside the opponent 45 on 4th down.

Expect a ridiculous Statue of Liberty Play.

Expect us not to call a timeout on 4th and short because everyone knows we are running the ball and we actually get a 4th down.

We will be very aggressive on defense leaving man coverage deep often. Learn to live with giving up some long TDs but really dialing up the pressure resulting in bad decisions by their QB.

Bottom line, I think we are in for some fun as fans.

None of the highlighted makes sense.

Miles is a pretty poor gameday coach, so if Narduzzi is a "Mad Hatter" coach like Miles, we will be in big trouble, unless he is going to turn into a remarkable recruiter like Miles.

"SEC's flexibility with rules" makes absolutely no sense. Especially in terms of how an OC coaches.

 

[Jpripper88]

Many people will say that everyone plays by the same rules. I am suggesting that boosters of SEC schools have a large influence and the admissions standards are loose.

The admission standards are the NCAA standards.

I'm with HailtoPitt71. The OP doesn't make any sense.

 

[MajorMajors]

I sure as heck hope that Coach Chaney has been thru this stuff enough times to realize that he should just keep the successful stuff from last season and complement it with some the stuff he likes to run. But shame on him if Pitt struggles offensively because they are getting used to a new system. That's crazy with the offensive players we have.

Go Pitt.

 

[mdpitt]

The admission standards are the NCAA standards.

I'm with HailtoPitt71. The OP doesn't make any sense.

I think your head is in the sand if you really think all the SEC guys would get admitted to Pitt. My point was that the talent pool is far deeper for the SEC because more Blue Chip Talent with 5th grade reading skills get into their schools. I think an SEC fan would agree after a few beers.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Pitt fans are underestimating the time it takes to implement a new offensive system. Our OC says 3 years minimum, his quote. Took big Ben a few years with the Steelers and he is a veteran. Gonna be hiccups boys, always is with new systems

I posted something similar on the other board. I won't be surprised if the offense struggles a bit, and there will be outcries of "Why did we change the offense when it was doing so well!" And there's something to be said for these kinds of questions.

Without looking at the entire playbook, I'd love to know what the 2015 offense is going to look like.

 

[Jpripper88]

I think your head is in the sand if you really think all the SEC guys would get admitted to Pitt. My point was that the talent pool is far deeper for the SEC because more Blue Chip Talent with 5th grade reading skills get into their schools. I think an SEC fan would agree after a few beers.

They use the NCAA admission standards. Pitt does the same and that is how guys like Todd Thomas and Elijiah Fields played for us. Some schools (South Carolina famously pissed off Steve Spurrier with this a few years ago) restrict some guys within a class and hold them closer to general standards. Perhaps you just don't understand what those are.

The blue chip players get in Pitt, just the same as LSU.

 

[thebadby2]

I agree, but I think the learning curve gets shortened by bringing Peterman in.

Really? Peterman was a redshirt freshman the only year he was exposed to Chaney's playbook. The next three years he was a disciple of Mike Bajakian's spread.Plus, Peterman is here to be a backup QB. We have a starter. As for Chaney, he spent the last 3 years running Brett Bielema's Stone Age, run first, last and always version of offense. Now he is being asked to craft an O that by Narduzzi's own admission will try to emulate MSU's offense as closely as possible.

It will take time, there is no way around that.

 

[thebadby2]

just to get some extra exposure but it is totally within their areas of strength. I really think Narduzzi is going to be a "Mad Hatter" like Les Miles of LSU and that is a great thing. He is predictably unpredictable which leads to other teams being uneasy on both sides of the ball. He won't have the SEC's flexibility with rules but I bet OC Jim Chaney makes it a lot more easy on the eyes this year. If you haven't watched Michigan State's Defense, I hope it translates in looks this year. We simply don't have the level of talent yet but recruits will see the blueprint. Michigan State sure looked like Blitzburgh with Rod Woodson and crew.

So some good ol' College Chicanery we will see:

James Conner plays some snaps on Defense in critical parts of the game on Third down when he is a Heisman contender. Voters love that stuff and it certainly won't hurt us.

Boyd scoring touchdowns 4 ways in one game. Receiving, Rushing, Punt Return And Kickoff return. Make it happen against YSU so the highlight runs all year for Voters.

Voytik catches a TD from Conner or Boyd.

I would be shocked if we don't see multiple fake kicks or punts.

We will go for it much more inside the opponent 45 on 4th down.

Expect a ridiculous Statue of Liberty Play.

Expect us not to call a timeout on 4th and short because everyone knows we are running the ball and we actually get a 4th down.

We will be very aggressive on defense leaving man coverage deep often. Learn to live with giving up some long TDs but really dialing up the pressure resulting in bad decisions by their QB.

Bottom line, I think we are in for some fun as fans.

Or, you could be completely wrong on all counts, since you have absolutely no idea what Narduzzi's head coaching style will be be. He has said many times that he plans to copy MSU closely in all program facets. So far that's what he's been doing. And I for one hope it's a lot more Dantonio than Miles. Miles is an idiot.

Statue of Liberty plays and lots of fake kicks? LMAO