I don't know what some of you are...

[TD_6082]

Stache, you need to take a break. You actually endorsed the group-think methods of a PSU board. I think you refer to them as a cult.

I promise this is my one and only handle and I've been here since 2001. I was a regular on the old Frank Sokol board and a season ticket holder for 16 years.

 

[Jpripper88]

Stache, you need to take a break. You actually endorsed the group-think methods of a PSU board. I think you refer to them as a cult.

I promise this is my one and only handle and I've been here since 2001. I was a regular on the old Frank Sokol board and a season ticket holder for 16 years.

Stache and the group that legitimately think that are absolutely no different than the PSU fans they make fun of. They are legitimately troubled people.

 

[President Stache]

Stache, you need to take a break. You actually endorsed the group-think methods of a PSU board. I think you refer to them as a cult.

I promise this is my one and only handle and I've been here since 2001. I was a regular on the old Frank Sokol board and a season ticket holder for 16 years.

Look, I can care less if you used to shine Johnny Majors testicles, it is insane that any human constantly hates like you and your other screen names do. It is just total crap.

I refer to them as a cult??? You dont?? That would make you a cult member. I dont think anyone outside of a ups fan doesnt think that is a cult and cant wait for that comet to come around again.

That being said... absolutely, totally prefer that than leaving this board to the likes of you and your multiple personalities.

 

[TD_6082]

Look, I can care less if you used to shine Johnny Majors testicles, it is insane that any human constantly hates like you and your other screen names do. It is just total crap.

I refer to them as a cult??? You dont?? That would make you a cult member. I dont think anyone outside of a ups fan doesnt think that is a cult and cant wait for that comet to come around again.

That being said... absolutely, totally prefer that than leaving this board to the likes of you and your multiple personalities.

Uh, there is just one of me. I would think a board mod could easily check IP addresses.

Would you care to find one of my 'hate posts' on here?

 

[President Stache]

Stache and the group that legitimately think that are absolutely no different than the PSU fans they make fun of. They are legitimately troubled people.

yeahhhhhh..... cause I condone the actions of a pedophile. I do believe that is the only thing I make fun of... and the fact that so many come here with Pitt handles disparaging our program.

By the way, no idea what your message means, how about giving it a read over before you spout insane dribble.

 

[President Stache]

Uh, there is just one of me. I would think a board mod could easily check IP addresses.

Would you care to find one of my 'hate posts' on here?

yeah... there is just 5 pitt fans in Hampton Roads, Virginia with the exact same opinions on every Pitt aspect, and of course all being negative.

 

[TD_6082]

yeahhhhhh..... cause I condone the actions of a pedophile. I do believe that is the only thing I make fun of... and the fact that so many come here with Pitt handles disparaging our program.

By the way, no idea what your message means, how about giving it a read over before you spout insane dribble.

I will give you that one. There has been an increase of NitWit traffic on here since the tOSU game and even more since the CFP rankings were released last week.

 

[TD_6082]

yeah... there is just 5 pitt fans in Hampton Roads, Virginia with the exact same opinions on every Pitt aspect, and of course all being negative.

I think me and VAPITTALUM are the only ones from Hampton Roads. There was another poster with a Hampton Roads handle a couple of weeks ago, but I'm pretty sure that was a VaTech fan.

 

[President Stache]

I could care less. This message board blows, and the moderators blow. I am sure you guys will win, and Narduzzi will leave cause of your antics, just as Corso pointed out, has happened in the past. None of you 'pitt fans' are ever happy, never come on after we win, only after loses.

Well, going to bed... peace out, Ill stay off for a while, im in the middle east now anyways

 

[PittHOFs]

How long did it take Kirk Ferentz at Iowa?

I know the argument will be well how can Urban Meyer and Harbaugh turn their programs practically overnight. Well those schools can recruit themselves and very easy to recruit top 10 classes instantly when they arrive. Programs like Pitt unfortunately need a coach committed for the long haul in order to build a stable competitive team. If Narduzzi sticks around for 5 years or so then Pitt should start rolling with him or even the next guy. Look at TCU and Boise there for a while. That's Pitt .......

 

[Jpripper88]

I could care less. This message board blows, and the moderators blow. I am sure you guys will win, and Narduzzi will leave cause of your antics, just as Corso pointed out, has happened in the past. None of you 'pitt fans' are ever happy, never come on after we win, only after loses.

Well, going to bed... peace out, Ill stay off for a while, im in the middle east now anyways

Absolutely idiotic.

yeahhhhhh..... cause I condone the actions of a pedophile. I do believe that is the only thing I make fun of... and the fact that so many come here with Pitt handles disparaging our program.

By the way, no idea what your message means, how about giving it a read over before you spout insane dribble.

How many tinfoil hats do you own?

I mean: Anyone who actually believes there are droves of people posting on Pantherlair for months/years as fake Pitt fans is a moron.

 

[Muddy Puddles]

Ok, so where are they? I am not emotional, at all, about this. Why do you think I am? Because I called the OP out and then responded to you after you chose to quote my post and reply to me?

If you can find the posts in 10 seconds, great, it should be easy for you and the OP to say, "Look, here are the idiots saying Pitt should fire or push out HCPN!" Boom, your posts are validated. As it stands now, it seems like you and the OP are taking people being (maybe extremely in some cases) negative when we are getting hammered and our coach is making bad decision after bad decision, as them saying they think he should be fired.

I am 100% not emotional when I say this, but I think, at best, you and the OP are being disingenuous and creating a strawman argument and, at worst, flat out lying. For what reason? I guess to push the narrative that Pitt has all these negative "fans" or rival fans who hate Pitt so much they pose as negative Pitt fans and post all day on Pantherlair.

I will leave you to your passions, and pay no mind. I am just telling you, watch the next time we are down, come on here, and you will find that which you seek.

 

[JamesDeLeon]

Complaining about? This should be a wet dream for all of the "Fire the coach!!!" hammerheads.

Many of you wanted Wannstedt gone after he underachieved in 2010 and you got your wish.

Many of you hated the Todd Graham hire and were happy to see him leave after one year.

Many of you weren't happy with the boring, lethargic, uninspired direction in year three of Paul Chryst and were thinking he needed to go if he didn't produce in year four. You lucked out and he left a year sooner.

So now Pitt is on it's fourth actual working full-time head coach (I don't count Haywood. If you do, it's five) in six years and it shows. Recruiting is what it is because coaches at every rival school are screaming "Don't go there. That coach won't be there in four years." And history proves they have a point. The lack of stability works against us more than attendance. Players want to know the guy they're committing to is going to be there. Historically, we haven't been able to guarantee that.

Oh by the way, have you noticed that half the Goddamned division has upgraded it's coaching staff? Beamer's been replaced at VT. Virginia went out and got a proven winner in Mendenhall and so did Miami with Richt. Hell, even Syracuse isn't a sure win anymore thanks to Dino Babers.

We all knew damn well that Wannstedt to Haywood to Graham to Chryst in three seasons would eventually take a toll on talent. But yes, lets talk summore about hot seats and "better win next year!" Afterall, it's worked so well for us in the past.

Remember whiz kid Paul Hackett got canned before the end of his third season. You are forgetting that at Pitt, attendance matters. To say the Pitt fan base loves Heinz Field is hyperbole. Pitt fans show up when it's Notre Dame and Penn State and other games if we are winning. After Saturday's game how many fans will be there for Duke? Syracuse is always a dud.

Narduzzi has to turn it around by next season. Unless his mouth and arrogance do him in, much like Hackett did himself in, he'll be here for four seasons.

Have you looked at the roster? What makes you think next year will be better?

 

[SVPanther]

Not one PITT fan (some posters on this board are not included in this lot) willy deny they want to see improvement from this team, which seems to be slipping going down the stretch. However, the endless threads regarding PITT's lack of success in recruiting, horrible coaching, etc. are unfounded at this point in the short tenure of Narduzzi and staff.

He pieced together a first recruiting class in about a month, so that truly can't be held against him. His second recruiting class was very solid, with players that were highly coveted by several P5 schools. I would imagine this year's class will be much of the same. Is it going to be a Top 10 class, heck no, but it will be a solid group of players who can help this team win in the future.

On the defensive coaching, what else is there to try? You can drop another player in at Safety in a nickel package, where certain players are double-teamed, but these WRs are absolutely destroying the secondary. The only change I could see that might make a difference is playing Whitehead as more of a LB/S hybrid where he is provided some freedom to come in on a corner blitz. The D-Line is getting absolutely no push, which makes the secondary look even worse. Delayed blitzes and blitzing off the corner could help...[/QUOTE

Apologist who ignores fact but relies on belief. Good luck with that.

 

[Jpripper88]

I will leave you to your passions, and pay no mind. I am just telling you, watch the next time we are down, come on here, and you will find that which you seek.

This isn't a passion. You said you could find them in 10 seconds and it has been 18 hours. Hell, we got our butts whipped not 48 hours before you posted that, so you shouldn't even need the search function if it happens every time we are losing.

I'll be frank, I think you and the OP are just lying to create a strawman. Calling you out on that doesn't mean I am upset or in any other significant emotional state.

 

[Muddy Puddles]

This isn't a passion. You said you could find them in 10 seconds and it has been 18 hours. Hell, we got our butts whipped not 48 hours before you posted that, so you shouldn't even need the search function if it happens every time we are losing.

I'll be frank, I think you and the OP are just lying to create a strawman. Calling you out on that doesn't mean I am upset or in any other significant emotional state.

If someone writes 50 times how awful the coach is and we should get rid of him, but doesn't technically use the words "fire", then I guess you win. I said I would not name names because I am not about to create any ill will with posters I don't even know. Don't intend to create ill will with you either. If you don't believe anyone wrote that, I believe that's what you think.

I believe I saw a thread TITLED by asking or saying Narduzzi should be on the hot seat. That is one step away from being fired. It's a lot closer to being fired than given an extension, that's for sure. I certainly didn't lie though, why would I lie? I read what I believe I read. Maybe I interpret it differently, but I didn't lie.

 

[Pitt79]

Exactly. I personally think narduzzi is the man. but let's say he isnt. just keep him here for 6+ years to allow the pederson mistakes to be purged. but I think after a few hiccups we see the narduzzi effect in 2 more years and then all of these whiners will jump on the duzz train

It's stupid to want to get rid of him. I have seen more positive than negative. He needs to recruit some better DBs for one thing. It's not like we've been horrible, we could easily be 7-2, even 8-1, there was only one bad loss. I give him at least 5-6 years. Starting over again would be stupid.

 

[VAPITTALUM]

yeah... there is just 5 pitt fans in Hampton Roads, Virginia with the exact same opinions on every Pitt aspect, and of course all being negative.

Hey, don't lump me into that group!

 

[Jpripper88]

If someone writes 50 times how awful the coach is and we should get rid of him, but doesn't technically use the words "fire", then I guess you win. I said I would not name names because I am not about to create any ill will with posters I don't even know. Don't intend to create ill will with you either. If you don't believe anyone wrote that, I believe that's what you think.

I believe I saw a thread TITLED by asking or saying Narduzzi should be on the hot seat. That is one step away from being fired. It's a lot closer to being fired than given an extension, that's for sure. I certainly didn't lie though, why would I lie? I read what I believe I read. Maybe I interpret it differently, but I didn't lie.

Where?

My point is that certain posters have a narrative that any criticism means that poster is really a disguised Eer, JoeBot, or some other troll and want the HC fired. They are ludicrous and the type of fans that do actually hold the program back because they are complacent and fine with mediocrity. Many of those same fans did it for Todd Graham right up until the moment he bolted. Then they said how terrible he was. They did the same with Paul Chryst. Hell, many of same ones even did it for Mike Haywood for a couple weeks until he beat the crap out of his baby momma.

 

[Jpripper88]

It's stupid to want to get rid of him. I have seen more positive than negative. He needs to recruit some better DBs for one thing. It's not like we've been horrible, we could easily be 7-2, even 8-1, there was only one bad loss. I give him at least 5-6 years. Starting over again would be stupid.

Agreed. I might say "at least 4 years" instead, but, honestly, I don't see him being so bad that he wouldn't at least get a 5th year. I still think it is possible we have a HC who can turn things around, if he can get things going in recruiting and fit his players in there. The stubbornness this year does worry me on what his ceiling is, though.

 

[Muddy Puddles]

Where?

My point is that certain posters have a narrative that any criticism means that poster is really a disguised Eer, JoeBot, or some other troll and want the HC fired. They are ludicrous and the type of fans that do actually hold the program back because they are complacent and fine with mediocrity. Many of those same fans did it for Todd Graham right up until the moment he bolted. Then they said how terrible he was. They did the same with Paul Chryst. Hell, many of same ones even did it for Mike Haywood for a couple weeks until he beat the crap out of his baby momma.

I never said any of those things, so you have no debate with me. Someone calling for the coaches head may be a grade a fool, but that doesn't make him a Nitter. Western PA has its fair share of morons, we see them driving into work every day, or at Steeler games.

 

[Nittany1997]

The worst I ever said was that he needs anger management. I think he will be great for years to come.

 

[Teh Teh]

Absolutely idiotic.


How many tinfoil hats do you own?

I mean: Anyone who actually believes there are droves of people posting on Pantherlair for months/years as fake Pitt fans is a moron.

Wow you are a real bozo. First off, you had no basis at all for both points, but let's not let that get in your way.

Next, why on earth wouldn't psychotic pen state people post for years on this board? They are f'n crazy, of course they would. Why would you say the wouldn't?

I know you are not known for your intelligence but that's dumb even for dim little you

 

[Teh Teh]

If someone writes 50 times how awful the coach is and we should get rid of him, but doesn't technically use the words "fire", then I guess you win. I said I would not name names because I am not about to create any ill will with posters I don't even know. Don't intend to create ill will with you either. If you don't believe anyone wrote that, I believe that's what you think.

I believe I saw a thread TITLED by asking or saying Narduzzi should be on the hot seat. That is one step away from being fired. It's a lot closer to being fired than given an extension, that's for sure. I certainly didn't lie though, why would I lie? I read what I believe I read. Maybe I interpret it differently, but I didn't lie.

Why would you even argue with a moron?

 

[Muddy Puddles]

Why would you even argue with a moron?

I dint know your experience with him, but I didn't find him to be a moron, we just both read the same thing and drew different conclusions. But deep down, I bet he knows I am right.

 

[pittmeister]

I dint know your experience with him, but I didn't find him to be a moron, we just both read the same thing and drew different conclusions. But deep down, I bet he knows I am right.

Put the blithering idiot on ignore... He's ate up with stupid.

 

[Muddy Puddles]

Put the blithering idiot on ignore... He's ate up with stupid.

He must have a reputation on here that I have not seen yet. I will take it under advisement though. I like to give everyone a fair chance.

 

[pittforreal]

This is the truth! I don't care what the sheep say, this is 100% correct

You twister of reality. Tell us hater of all current Pitt coaches, how was Wanny the first two years. 18 wins....Hardly, not even 10. Does your boss fire you every time you open your mouth and spew out BS?? Probably not. But its ok to spit on everything Pitt isn't it.

 

[SVPanther]

We PITT does the same thing over and over with the football program and expects different results.
We hire a good HC like Narduzzi and than give him garbage coordinators and other staff and expect the HC to turn bronze into gold.
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
We could hire Saban, provide him with financial constraints on hiring staff, he hires average or below average staff = same results!
Canada is working out not sure how things will be over the long haul. The situation might be even better with a higher quality OC.
On the other hand the D coordinator & staff are lost in the forest and aren't going to find their way out!
Until PITT goes "all in" for D1 winning football nothing will change. Good coordinators are better coaches, better recruiters, better PR for the program and are potential HC's for that same program.
When a U goes " all it" its a signal to fans, recruits, opponents that they're serious about
putting a quality D1 football program on the field. On the other hand a U that hires a good HC and bargin basement staff is sending the opposite message. That's what PITT does!
I'd bet that if we provided Wanny with the flexibility to hire upgraded staff we wouldn't be going through this cycle right now.

If "Going all in" means football runs the University, e.g. Every SEC school (Vandy Excepted), OSU, Penn State et al, then I'm off that bus. Granted, that's the commitment a University must have to be a perennial contender for the playoff, and that's the problem and, thankfully, that's not Pitt.

 

[oldpantherfan]

Honeymoon is over only becaue of knuckle head fans. Until last week Pitt was in and should have won all previous loses.
If that happens that way Pitt is undefeated top 15 (maybe 10) stays in top 25 with that loss and posters aren't whining (naw still whining because we lost a game).
Pitt will be OK under narduzzi, damn give him time.

 

[SVPanther]

This is one of the best post I have read in awhile. I was thinking of writing one like this. But, I FAIL to believe, PittPiker/TD_/TD_istheman/hamptonroads/SVP/whatever other user name he/she uses is a Pitt fan. I would put money on it.

It is just impossible... impossible that these people have negative opinions about EVERYTHING! I mean, not one positive post ever. There is no way he is a Pitt fan, none.

I mean, they will post something, and no one reads it, then one of the pseudo-names responds and likes it, then another, then when still no one responds, there is another person who suddenly has post number one agreeing with some asinine negative slant. Like there are people out there that think "wow, I just love Pitt football, but I really need to find a forum where i can go and as my first post just rip Pitt a new one, the coach, the team, recruiting, fan base, stadium, everything"... then sign up for the lair and then say "wow, this guy just crystallized my thoughts perfectly that until now I was happy not sharing with the world, and figured I would help hurt recruiting and positive energy to this team I love so dearly"

It's complete garbage, and BWI knows it, and long ago stopped it. I used to complain about that site, but they are right on, that is the way a forum should be run when its for the fans of that university.

Lemme guess. You read Breitbart and listen to Alex Jones every day. Connect the dots. Gotya....

 

[JamesDeLeon]

We PITT does the same thing over and over with the football program and expects different results.
We hire a good HC like Narduzzi and than give him garbage coordinators and other staff and expect the HC to turn bronze into gold.
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
We could hire Saban, provide him with financial constraints on hiring staff, he hires average or below average staff = same results!
Canada is working out not sure how things will be over the long haul. The situation might be even better with a higher quality OC.
On the other hand the D coordinator & staff are lost in the forest and aren't going to find their way out!
Until PITT goes "all in" for D1 winning football nothing will change. Good coordinators are better coaches, better recruiters, better PR for the program and are potential HC's for that same program.
When a U goes " all it" its a signal to fans, recruits, opponents that they're serious about
putting a quality D1 football program on the field. On the other hand a U that hires a good HC and bargin basement staff is sending the opposite message. That's what PITT does!
I'd bet that if we provided Wanny with the flexibility to hire upgraded staff we wouldn't be going through this cycle right now.

Pitt fans expect the same dining experience of The Lemont at Red Lobster. When they don't get it the make a big fuss that they paid a whole $45.89 for a dinner for two and ask to see the manager. Then they go home and leave a bad Yelp review.

 

[Piranha]

Remember whiz kid Paul Hackett got canned before the end of his third season. You are forgetting that at Pitt, attendance matters. To say the Pitt fan base loves Heinz Field is hyperbole. Pitt fans show up when it's Notre Dame and Penn State and other games if we are winning. After Saturday's game how many fans will be there for Duke? Syracuse is always a dud.

Narduzzi has to turn it around by next season. Unless his mouth and arrogance do him in, much like Hackett did himself in, he'll be here for four seasons.

Have you looked at the roster? What makes you think next year will be better?

What good, proven HC would want to coach here? Some of you guys are nuts.

 

[Jpripper88]

Wow you are a real bozo. First off, you had no basis at all for both points, but let's not let that get in your way.

Next, why on earth wouldn't psychotic pen state people post for years on this board? They are f'n crazy, of course they would. Why would you say the wouldn't?

I know you are not known for your intelligence but that's dumb even for dim little you

This is interesting coming from one of the dumbest homers on the board.