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I don't think people realize how many jobs this is about to destroy.

What a weird point of view that vaccines are political, like I should ask my doctor if s/he is a Republican or Democrat before being vaccinated, or anything else for that matter. Or that serviceman should have the right not to be vaccinated despite the military being voluntary (and you knowingly give up rights in the military) and the need for readiness in the military (can’t afford to have an infectious outbreak on a carrier for instance or in a platoon on patrol in a combat zone). And vaccines are shown to be safe and effective, these are not experimental biologics.

As far as permitting LBTQ servicemen and women, why does anybody care as long as they can do their job? So much about wanting a meritocracy! When North Korea launches a missile at the U.S. should I really care about the sexuality of the radar operators or anyone responsible for shooting it down, including the pilots? It’s ridiculous.


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The covid vaccine didn't stop have an outbreak. Your point is invalid.

As to safety, just look at the stock prices of Pfizer and Moderna before you make those judgments. When liability protection is removed, they won't produce them or they will go bankrupt.

Who was talking lbtq? The issue is only "t".
 
The covid vaccine didn't stop have an outbreak. Your point is invalid.

As to safety, just look at the stock prices of Pfizer and Moderna before you make those judgments. When liability protection is removed, they won't produce them or they will go bankrupt.

Who was talking lbtq? The issue is only "t".

The vaccine most certainly stopped the pandemic.
 
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Two months ago the U.S. economy was the envy of the world. Now we have a looming recession and the stock market is entering bear territory. I wonder what happened since the end of January?

The tariffs are effectively illegal, so eventually ( in at least two years) when the Democrats take back the house, the tariffs will be rolled back. But America will suffer enormous damage to its economy and prestige if we wait that long.

The caveat is whether or not the U.S. is under a dictatorship by then.

We were under a dictatorship under the fascist Biden Harris regime!! And we were also in a recession under Bozo Biden by definition. What the f$%k are you even talking about? You don't even know the definition of free trade and think tariffs are illegal. LOL!
 
Again, I challenge you to show me where I’m lying.

Let’s see: Finanial Times, occasionally; Wall Street Journal occasionally; The Atlantic; Foreign Affairs; occasionally the Economist. Yes, Washington Post And New York Times; occasionally BBC. And yes, CNN and MSNBC. And at one time I was force-fed Fox News.

I just know more than you, that’s obvious. The stock market is in or near bear territory and you think this is typical volatility. That’s hysterical!!!

It's obvious you know nothing, especially about the stock market. But please, keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. Let us know when you get to China. LOL!
 
The vaccine most certainly stopped the pandemic.

Let's get one thing very, very straight here. THERE WAS NO VACCINE! Vaccines help prevent the contraction and spread of viruses. What they passed off as a vaccine was a shot that was mRNA and modified peoples' immune systems permanently, causing long-term health damage to their bodies while not combating any viruses. That shot has killed people, not the virus. Natural immunity was the only thing that helped to prevent the spread of that virus any further.

Are you really so stupid that you believe what you post?
 
Let's get one thing very, very straight here. THERE WAS NO VACCINE! Vaccines help prevent the contraction and spread of viruses. What they passed off as a vaccine was a shot that was mRNA and modified peoples' immune systems permanently, causing long-term health damage to their bodies while not combating any viruses. That shot has killed people, not the virus. Natural immunity was the only thing that helped to prevent the spread of that virus any further.

Are you really so stupid that you believe what you post?
Not being a smart ass but it literally modified their DNA.
 
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What a weird point of view that vaccines are political, like I should ask my doctor if s/he is a Republican or Democrat before being vaccinated, or anything else for that matter. Or that serviceman should have the right not to be vaccinated despite the military being voluntary (and you knowingly give up rights in the military)This and the need for readiness in the military (can’t afford to have an infectious outbreak on a carrier for instance or in a platoon on patrol in a combat zone). And vaccines are shown to be safe and effective, these are not experimental biologics.

As far as permitting LBTQ servicemen and women, why does anybody care as long as they can do their job? So much about wanting a meritocracy! When North Korea launches a missile at the U.S. should I really care about the sexuality of the radar operators or anyone responsible for shooting it down, including the pilots? It’s ridiculous.

Stay off of Fox News and NewsMax!

This is rich. Let's see where should I start?

Might as well hit the obvious Dem deflection tactic first. The old "Why do you care?" defense. The legitimacy of one's opinion isn't based on how much you care about the subject. That's the difference between liberals and conservatives. It's all about emotion with lefties and explains why your arguments fail so frequently. Feelings are subjective. So, if you can't make a logic-based argument, you're wasting everyone's time when you vomit your "Why do you care" nonsense.

Secondly, you already established the fact that servicemen relinquish their civil rights, so that reduces your point about merit to irrelevancy. The CIC determines whether or not a trans person can do the job. Which of course explains why the court ruling should be ignored. Article II is dispositive. An Article III appointee has no say in the matter.

Thirdly, when a clinician, which is what your your doctor is, follows an edict issued by a political appointee (the Secretary of HHS declares that an emergency use authorization is appropriate) then you're foolish not to consider the political leanings of your doctor, because the medical treatment he's giving you is not approved. And your clinician has no freaking idea how great the emergency is. He is choosing to trust, or not trust, the Secretary's political determination.

BTW, the mRNA vaccine was never shown to be safe and effective. It was an unapproved experimental biologic that was authorized for emergency use in spite of the fact that clinicians had demonstrated effective therapies with off label drug treatments. But hey, why a trust doctors who have experience treating patients when you can trust Fauci, who never came near an actual COVID patient?

What kind of weirdo blindly trusts their doctor? Most people don't even blindly trust their mechanic.
 
This is rich. Let's see where should I start?

Might as well hit the obvious Dem deflection tactic first. The old "Why do you care?" defense. The legitimacy of one's opinion isn't based on how much you care about the subject. That's the difference between liberals and conservatives. It's all about emotion with lefties and explains why your arguments fail so frequently. Feelings are subjective. So, if you can't make a logic-based argument, you're wasting everyone's time when you vomit your "Why do you care" nonsense.

Secondly, you already established the fact that servicemen relinquish their civil rights, so that reduces your point about merit to irrelevancy. The CIC determines whether or not a trans person can do the job. Which of course explains why the court ruling should be ignored. Article II is dispositive. An Article III appointee has no say in the matter.

Thirdly, when a clinician, which is what your your doctor is, follows an edict issued by a political appointee (the Secretary of HHS declares that an emergency use authorization is appropriate) then you're foolish not to consider the political leanings of your doctor, because the medical treatment he's giving you is not approved. And your clinician has no freaking idea how great the emergency is. He is choosing to trust, or not trust, the Secretary's political determination.

BTW, the mRNA vaccine was never shown to be safe and effective. It was an unapproved experimental biologic that was authorized for emergency use in spite of the fact that clinicians had demonstrated effective therapies with off label drug treatments. But hey, why a trust doctors who have experience treating patients when you can trust Fauci, who never came near an actual COVID patient?

What kind of weirdo blindly trusts their doctor? Most people don't even blindly trust their mechanic.
Doctors had their license taken away if they promoted any other treatment.
 

Let's de-Fox your post. The legitimate study you linked is about SV40, and nowhere does it even mention the Covid vaccine. And to the point about SV40 being in the Covid Vaccine

"Although some COVID-19 vaccines contain small fragments of SV40, these fragments are neither the same as the virus itself nor carcinogenic."

I've taken a break from my self-imposed ban of interacting with you to point out your fallacies in regards to vaccines. Notice I did so without resorting to childish insults

 
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Judgement and cost-benefit analysis is always part of taking any medication, including vaccines. There is no doubt that the Covid vaccines ended the Pandemic, albeit not the virus altogether since it mutates. I just Googled what was a nice summary of the side effects. Oddly enough, I just had another Covid shot recommend by my radical liberal physician — happy to report no side effects….except I really can’t explain the arm growing from my forehead!???

“The rate of side effects from COVID-19 vaccines can vary depending on the specific vaccine, the population receiving it, and other factors. However, most COVID-19 vaccines authorized for emergency use or fully approved by health authorities have been shown to be safe and effective, with side effects generally being mild to moderate and temporary.

### Common Side Effects:
1. **Local Reactions:**
- Pain at the injection site
- Redness or swelling

2. **Systemic Reactions:**
- Fatigue
- Headache
- Muscle or joint pain
- Chills
- Fever
- Nausea

These side effects typically resolve within a few days.

### Rare Side Effects:
- **Allergic Reactions:** Severe allergic reactions (anaphylaxis) are rare but have been reported. They usually occur shortly after vaccination, which is why individuals are often monitored for a short period after receiving the vaccine.
- **Myocarditis and Pericarditis:** These have been observed in some individuals, particularly younger males, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (like Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna). The cases are rare and generally resolve with treatment.
- **Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome (TTS):** This rare condition has been associated with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

### Monitoring and Reporting:
Health agencies like the CDC and WHO continuously monitor vaccine safety and update recommendations as new data becomes available.”
 
Let's de-Fox your post. The legitimate study you linked is about SV40, and nowhere does it even mention the Covid vaccine. And to the point about SV40 being in the Covid Vaccine

"Although some COVID-19 vaccines contain small fragments of SV40, these fragments are neither the same as the virus itself nor carcinogenic."

I've taken a break from my self-imposed ban of interacting with you to point out your fallacies in regards to vaccines. Notice I did so without resorting to childish insults

Is that why the conclusions said the jab should b banned Safe and effective. I’ll just say this. I survived the winter of death and don’t have to worry about the long term affects of what i put in my body. I made the correct choice for myself and my family.
 
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Let's get one thing very, very straight here. THERE WAS NO VACCINE! Vaccines help prevent the contraction and spread of viruses. What they passed off as a vaccine was a shot that was mRNA and modified peoples' immune systems permanently, causing long-term health damage to their bodies while not combating any viruses. That shot has killed people, not the virus. Natural immunity was the only thing that helped to prevent the spread of that virus any further.

Are you really so stupid that you believe

This post is literally jaw-dropping stupid.
 

Excellent article that explains the facts about the mRNA shots. It never prevented the contraction or spread of the virus and it caused mutations in a person's DNA if they took the shot. That shot, as the paper stated, actually attacks a person's healthy cells and mutates the DNA internally. Long-term harmful effects are starting to be seen and more will surface. These pharma companies need to be held accountable and, hopefully, put out of business after the heavy fines they deserve.

I know I'll never take another mRNA or any kind of shot that has not been sufficiently tested and re-tested. There are vaccines that work. The Covid shot was not a vaccine and should not be pushed as one. It's a poison.
 
Is that why the conclusions said the jab should b banned Safe and effective. I’ll just say this. I survived the winter of death and don’t have to worry about the long term affects of what i put in my body. I made the correct choice for myself and my family.

thank you for responding without insults

EDIT: I'm glad you are happy with your decision and it worked for you. I, however, had several close family members who didn't survive. They were older (late 60's) but in otherwise good health.
 
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Excellent article that explains the facts about the mRNA shots. It never prevented the contraction or spread of the virus and it caused mutations in a person's DNA if they took the shot. That shot, as the paper stated, actually attacks a person's healthy cells and mutates the DNA internally. Long-term harmful effects are starting to be seen and more will surface. These pharma companies need to be held accountable and, hopefully, put out of business after the heavy fines they deserve.

I know I'll never take another mRNA or any kind of shot that has not been sufficiently tested and re-tested. There are vaccines that work. The Covid shot was not a vaccine and should not be pushed as one. It's a poison.

did you even read the linked journal article that is the actual study? It says nothing about mRNA shots, it talks about SV40
 
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thank you for responding without insults

EDIT: I'm glad you are happy with your decision and it worked for you. I, however, had several close family members who didn't survive. They were older (late 60's) but in otherwise good health.
You’re welcome. We can agree to disagree. I apologize for my part in taking our discussions into the toilet. As I said before you seem to be a good guy despite our differences in a number of issues

And for sure lots of people died from/During Covid Im sorry for you’re loss

And while I’ve busted some peoples chops on this board over the jab I sincerely believe it was and should always be a personal decision. I have a number of good friends who are conservative who took it for various reasons.

Id also add that by no means am I saying (nor would or do any of the experts I’ve followed, including one of the inventors of mRNA technology, a former Vp of pfeizer and a number of other well
Known and highly respected Experts, at least before Covid) that the side affects observed impact everyone. The human body is pretty amazing and resilient

So please accept my apologies and peace
 
did you even read the linked journal article that is the actual study? It says nothing about mRNA shots, it talks about SV40

It’s addressing impurity’s in the mRNA vaccine one of them being SV40 that can cause significant health issues.

That paper aside I’d add that the technology itself failed animal trials until COVID. Many of the side affects we are seeing today were observed in the animal trials. The emergency auth allowed them to skip the animal trials
 
did you even read the linked journal article that is the actual study? It says nothing about mRNA shots, it talks about SV40

We further analyzed RNA and DNA contents of these vials and identified large amounts of DNA after RNase A digestion in all lots with concentrations ranging from 32.7 ng to 43.4 ng per clinical dose. This far exceeds the maximal acceptable concentration of 10 ng per clinical dose that has been set by international regulatory authorities. Gene analyses with selected PCR primer pairs proved that residual DNA represents not only fragments of the DNA matrices coding for the spike gene, but of all genes from the plasmid including the SV40 promoter/enhancer and the antibiotic resistance gene. Conclusion: Our results raise grave concerns regarding the safety of the BNT162b2 vaccine and call for an immediate halt of all RNA biologicals unless these concerns can be dispelled.
 
You’re the idiot that started the name calling…you ought to be careful too!

Moron.

LOL! That's not name-calling. Are you that thin-skinned that calling you a lefty looney hurts your widdle feelwings? You're the one who called me a moron and stupid and idiot. Have you read the board rules about name-calling?

So get off your high horse and be very careful. Now run along, little man. And please don't cry while running along. You're just a kid.
 
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LOL! That's not name-calling. Are you that thin-skinned that calling you a lefty looney hurts your widdle feelwings? You're the one who called me a moron and stupid and idiot. Have you read the board rules about name-calling?

So get off your high horse and be very careful. Now run along, little man. And please don't cry while running along. You're just a kid.
Sorry, you are an idiot with no game.

Go back and read what you said in your FIRST post to me today.

You must be a snowflake who can dish it out, but can’t take the counter punch.

“Have you read the rules….?”OMG!!! Hahaha!!!
 
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VDH really lays it on the line. Brilliant man and spot on. Stocks are, for the most part, way overvalued, to address one of his many brilliant and accurate points. Wall Street would be the major cause of any recession or depression, as it was previously. Tariffs are a distraction. When Wall Street decides they have taken enough profits from the market and short sold enough, prices will go up again and quickly. It's just the way the market makers make their livings.
 
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Let's de-Fox your post. The legitimate study you linked is about SV40, and nowhere does it even mention the Covid vaccine. And to the point about SV40 being in the Covid Vaccine

"Although some COVID-19 vaccines contain small fragments of SV40, these fragments are neither the same as the virus itself nor carcinogenic."

I've taken a break from my self-imposed ban of interacting with you to point out your fallacies in regards to vaccines. Notice I did so without resorting to childish insults

Let's not forget to mention that the "peer review" publication is IPAK's Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law. Which isn't a real peer-reviewed journal.
 
Why would the FDA say this. It’s safe and effective


We have only begun to understand the long-term deleterious health effects of the Covid shot. It's going to kill a lot more people than the left claims it saved.

The irony of all of this is that the Covid shot was a "Project Warp Speed" result of the first Trump administration. The left refused to take the shot because it was a Trump shot. But as soon as Bozo said we needed to get the shot, then it was OK. People lost their jobs if they didn't take the shot. They're not going to pull that shit again on us. We learned our lesson, even though for some it may be too late.
 
Why would the FDA say this. It’s safe and effective

Hey look, more misinformation about the veracity of the claims.

The FDA "admission" is from a 2020 guidance document that describes the best practices for the long-term study and evaluation for clinical studies involving Gene Therapy products. That's like saying Ford admits that their cars are "tricking time bombs" (as the website claims the FDA is admitting) because they recommend having your car regularly maintained.

Second, the "peer-reviewed study" isn't a study. It's a case report about a single subject that died and the coroner attributed the death to not the vaccine and the authors (Peter McCollough, the supplement salesman) used to create a recommended autopsy routine. There was no study conducted and no findings to review or dispute. All of their claims boiled down to, the coroner didn't perform this one test so we recommend that all future deaths of persons exposed to the mRNA vaccine receive this test.

Again, this is like a Ford car being involved in an accident, then the accident report comes out saying that it was caused because the Ford's brakes didn't engage. Then someone creates a possible checklist for future accident investigations stating that this one instance didn't check to make sure the turn signals were working, so they recommend all future investigators check for working turn signals. Then some website comes out and points to that checklist and states "Study of Ford cars confirms that turn signals are the cause of accidents".
 
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