....he never will.
He was our best player against Purdue.... and he's our best tonight too.
He was our best player against Purdue.... and he's our best tonight too.
If James Robinson hasn't silenced his critics now....
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I agree..... but Micah Mason isn't as hard to defend as people think. And JR has always been a solid defender.
Agree. It does take focus and a lot of energy to run with MM against the screen action
Well... you should watch the replay when you get a chance. Robinson has looked even better than his numbers tonight, and his numbers have been great.
Yeah I will try, that is really good to hear. Guy seems to have turned a corner now, hope it continues.
How can I watch a replay of this?? Not on espn3 is it?
In his last three games Robinson is shooting 55.6% from the field and 60.0% from three with 22 assists and 4 turnovers. Just a week or so ago we were told that a three game stretch is enough to know exactly how good (or bad) a player's season will be, so I'm guessing those folks will be along any minute now to declare that Robinson is on his way to the greatest season by a guard ever.
The people that were and/or are critics are incredibly uneducated in the game of basketball. Period.
Hopefully you don't play poker like you comment on this message board. Yes, Jones didn't play well in the first half...he did a little better in the second half.
None of the nonstarters played particularly well...the bench only scored 2 points in the first half.
Jones has been a key contributor in several wins, but his problem is that he is inconsistent from game to game.
Jones may not be better than the players ahead of him in the rotation, but he is pushing them in practice. If he was better, he would start. Saying that he sucks is a flippant remark for a player, who might not be good enough to start, but has a role on the team.
So when a three game stretch proves the point that you want to make it's significant, but when it disproves your point it's not? OK. Sure.
Disagree completely-all his critics have argued is that he should have done beginning at least last year what he's done the last 2 games- play aggressively, take the shot when it's there and represent a real offensive threat, if you're contending that James has consistently done this in the past, then you're not watching the games...a goose egg against Detroit? That's incredible for a 4 year starter with his skill set. He needed a fire lit under him and it looks like that's what occurred....we'll see. No team benefits from pg who won't shoot and fails to penetrate.
My point was Robinson started the season where he left off last season, a player that couldn't shoot or score. I hope Robinson continues to shoot and score from here on out.
And your point was incorrect. You specifically pointed to his shooting percentages and how low they were this year. Those were considerably lower than they were last year. And you took those low percentages to mean that he was doomed for a bad year. Someone here pointed out to you the fact, and it is a fact, that a full season's worth of data from last year was much more predictive of what this year's performance was going to be than a three game sample from the beginning of this season was.
Similarly, thinking that Robinson will continue to shoot as well as he has the last three games for the rest of the season is also foolish. Guys are never as good as the numbers they can put up over a short stretch and they are never as bad as the numbers they can put up over a short stretch. You made conclusions based off of a three game sample, and it was just as silly to do it then as it would be to do it now.
While you're correct in this instance..... you don't have to be such a d*** about it all the time. Grow up.
-Robinson shot 36% for the entire season last year. I'm done debating this.
Right, which is why you arguing that since he shot 22% (or whatever the exact number was) over those three games and that meant that he wasn't going to shoot any better than that all season was really dumb. I'd be done debating it too had I posted something like that as well.
As I've said to others before, it people don't want me pointing out when they post something stupid they should stop posting stupid things.
If I'm a d*** for pointing out that someone drew obviously incorrect conclusion from way too small a sample size in order to rip on a Pitt player then what does that make the person who was ripping on the Pitt player in the first place? Because it would have to be something way worse than just a d***.
Actually, the original thread that started talked about James Robinson's last 20 games of last season. Robinson's shooting percentage the last 20 games of last season happened to be 44-139 which is 31%. In Robinson's first 3 games he was shooting 23%. And I clearly stated Robinson is already playing like last year already.
Not that far off, is it, when you shoot 31% in 19 ACC games and the NIT.
I can agree about the shooting aspect, other than I really don't think it was in Pitt's gameplan for him to shoot. But you're still right that he needed to shoot. But personally I don't think it's even fathomable to question his aggressiveness.
I can definitely see some of the disappointments people have seen in him and called him out for. But I just don't think he was ever not good as some have claimed.
This is his scouting report, from a site that ranked him 43rd in the country based off of these attributes. Most of the criticisms levied are by people who just saw his ranking and assumed he was this dynamic player. He has, IMO, been as advertised:
Strengths:
In a lead guard, you look for a kid who has pace, patience and smarts to his game. Robinson doesn't make a lot of mistakes and sees the floor well. He's not a guy who is prone to forcing and will finish straight line drives. Jumper keeps defenders honest. You can trust him to run a team and he's coachable. Other players will be in scoring position when he's on the floor.
Weaknesses:
Where he's lacking is in the speed department. He's not apt to blow by his man and and athletically he's average at best.
Bottom Line:
This is a mature basketball player. He's not flashy or spectacular, he's reliable and coachable. More of a team runner than a dominant scoring threat, he'll find his niche in a high-major program just as many who came before him at DeMatha have.
Strengths:
In a lead guard, you look for a kid who has pace, patience and smarts to his game. Robinson doesn't make a lot of mistakes and sees the floor well. He's not a guy who is prone to forcing and will finish straight line drives. Jumper keeps defenders honest. You can trust him to run a team and he's coachable. Other players will be in scoring position when he's on the floor.
Weaknesses:
Where he's lacking is in the speed department. He's not apt to blow by his man and and athletically he's average at best.
Bottom Line:
This is a mature basketball player. He's not flashy or spectacular, he's reliable and coachable. More of a team runner than a dominant scoring threat, he'll find his niche in a high-major program just as many who came before him at DeMatha have.
You obviously know your stuff but who taught you how to correct others when you were a kid?? There is no need for you to act so damn rude when you have a difference of opinion. It reeks from your posts.
Point things out in a nice way. People will appreciate that a lot more.
My apologies, after reading your doom & gloom posts after each loss, it didn't occur to me that you had a sense of humor.
Joe, you have taken me to the woodshed a couple times, and all I have to say is keep up the good work. It is nice to have a voice of reason on here, even if it can be cutting sometimes. Seriously, we're all grown men here, not sure why some are so sensitive, but we have generally become wimpified as a society. Besides, you aren't the only one, plenty of negative posters can be very insulting, I think it's just they can dish it out, but not take it.
Amazing, kiwijeff directly or indirectly responds once again to a post I made criticizing someone, not only that but taking the complete opposite position.
Total shocker.
I am allowed to have my opinions. Joe happens to be one of my favorite posters, so i lent him my support against what I felt was an unwarranted attack against him.
Most of the posters on here disagree with you, constantly, but you continue to single me out. Shows your bias against me and proves you are stalking me.
Good game by Pitt today.
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He was insulting to joe in a plea for joe to be more kind. "Didn't anyone teach you as a child"? What kind of nonsense is that? Also, that is the first time I was ever been accused of indirectly responding to someone. So now I am in trouble any time I agree with anyone who disagrees with him. That's like a hockey assist comment or something. My comment on a comment who made the disagreement. Gooooooaaaaalllll!!!!!!!
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