If Pitt was willing to spend $400 mill,it would be better spent on moving the

[mdpitt]

practice facility back to campus and make it accessible for student activities. With the other $360 million, throw a bone to the City and get some matching Federal Money to create the most advanced transportation connector from Oakland to downtown to Airport. Make it the greatest job creator for the region. I'm not talking buses but something that is something to showcase to the world.

It's a long running battle as Pitt gets the best end of a tax situation over the City but Pitt sure creates thousands of jobs that are taxed.

We often use the relationship with the Steelers but I really think the Steelers get the best end of the deal. Just move out and get the players in a situation where they walk to practice.

I bet the students might have a better view of transportation getting to Heinz by rail instead of a bus. To all the employees that work in Oakland, you might actually get a lot of people using it. The City would see it as another selling point as to why live in the City.

Nobody wants to talk about it but Heinz has a very real chance of hosting a Super Bowl and with that will come more improvements. Yes it's too big for Pitt but it's in the top 25% best Stadiums in the NFL as much as people want to deny it.

 

[mdpitt]

practice facility back to campus and make it accessible for student activities. With the other $360 million, throw a bone to the City and get some matching Federal Money to create the most advanced transportation connector from Oakland to downtown to Airport. Make it the greatest job creator for the region. I'm not talking buses but something that is something to showcase to the world.

It's a long running battle as Pitt gets the best end of a tax situation over the City but Pitt sure creates thousands of jobs that are taxed.

We often use the relationship with the Steelers but I really think the Steelers get the best end of the deal. Just move out and get the players in a situation where they walk to practice.

I bet the students might have a better view of transportation getting to Heinz by rail instead of a bus. To all the employees that work in Oakland, you might actually get a lot of people using it. The City would see it as another selling point as to why live in the City.

Nobody wants to talk about it but Heinz has a very real chance of hosting a Super Bowl and with that will come more improvements. Yes it's too big for Pitt but it's in the top 25% best Stadiums in the NFL as much as people want to deny it.

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Next big thing from Elon Musk? It could be 'boring'

http://usat.ly/2hW7PIB

 

[Saboteur]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Next big thing from Elon Musk? It could be 'boring'

http://usat.ly/2hW7PIB

Heck, I would move out of the city and watch Peduto swallow his vomit.

 

[SVPanther]

Always appreciate innovative thinking. Now, if we can just solve the declining population....

 

[CrazyPaco]

practice facility back to campus and make it accessible for student activities. With the other $360 million, throw a bone to the City and get some matching Federal Money to create the most advanced transportation connector from Oakland to downtown to Airport. Make it the greatest job creator for the region. I'm not talking buses but something that is something to showcase to the world.

It's a long running battle as Pitt gets the best end of a tax situation over the City but Pitt sure creates thousands of jobs that are taxed.

We often use the relationship with the Steelers but I really think the Steelers get the best end of the deal. Just move out and get the players in a situation where they walk to practice.

I bet the students might have a better view of transportation getting to Heinz by rail instead of a bus. To all the employees that work in Oakland, you might actually get a lot of people using it. The City would see it as another selling point as to why live in the City.

Nobody wants to talk about it but Heinz has a very real chance of hosting a Super Bowl and with that will come more improvements. Yes it's too big for Pitt but it's in the top 25% best Stadiums in the NFL as much as people want to deny it.

The answer is None of the Above. No where remotely near Pitt's missions is "doing the city's and county's job for them."

 

[joeydavid]

New Subterranean Pitt Stadium under the Cathedral just got a bit closer to reality.

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Next big thing from Elon Musk? It could be 'boring'

http://usat.ly/2hW7PIB

 

[HailtoPitt]

The answer is None of the Above. No where remotely near Pitt's missions is "doing the city's and county's job for them."

Pitt had better end the football program then.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Pitt had better end the football program then.

Why is that?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Why is that?

Which is a closer match to Pitt's mission statement? Helping the city, county and state to improve infrastructure, or playing big time football?

 

[CrazyPaco]

Which is a closer match to Pitt's mission statement? Helping the city, county and state to improve infrastructure, or playing big time football?

You didn't answer my question but I'll answer yours because it is very easy to answer.

Neither. Neither spending $400 million on transportation infrastructure for the city/county nor spending $400 million on an athletic project is anywhere near Pitt's mission statement.

Now if someone donates $400 million to Pitt for those specific purposes, sure, Pitt maybe could be the steward of such projects. Not that it would make sense to donate $400 million to Pitt for public transportation when it could be donated to the city itself, or to a foundation or organization specially tasked with undertaking such a project. Pitt really isn't set up to handle that because it isn't in the business of building public transportation systems. It probably would turn such a donation down, to be honest, because it makes no sense whatsoever to funnel that through Pitt.

The reality of a stadium has been addressed ad nauseum and either you deal with the reality that exists or you live in a fantasy world where you can ride unicorns back and forth from Towers to the Cathedral.

And Pitt will never have $400 million just laying around to do with what it pleases. And if it did, there are about 1,000 things more pertinent to bettering itself as an institution within its core missions of education, research, and community outreach. Start by putting a large chunk of it in financial aid, sprinkle in a healthy dose of endowed chairs for new faculty, create some endowed research funds, add in some sorely needed academic refurbishments and equipment, and maybe even found some institutes that otherwise wouldn't exist. In such a fantasy hypothetical, that money would get chewed through instantaneously on things of actual substance.

 

[mdpitt]

You didn't answer my question but I'll answer yours because it is very easy to answer.

Neither. Neither spending $400 million on transportation infrastructure for the city/county nor spending $400 million on an athletic project is anywhere near Pitt's mission statement.

Now if someone donates $400 million to Pitt for those specific purposes, sure, Pitt maybe could be the steward of such projects. Not that it would make sense to donate $400 million to Pitt for public transportation when it could be donated to the city itself, or to a foundation or organization specially tasked with undertaking such a project. Pitt really isn't set up to handle that because it isn't in the business of building public transportation systems. It probably would turn such a donation down, to be honest, because it makes no sense whatsoever to funnel that through Pitt.

The reality of a stadium has been addressed ad nauseum and either you deal with the reality that exists or you live in a fantasy world where you can ride unicorns back and forth from Towers to the Cathedral.

And Pitt will never have $400 million just laying around to do with what it pleases. And if it did, there are about 1,000 things more pertinent to bettering itself as an institution within its core missions of education, research, and community outreach. Start by putting a large chunk of it in financial aid, sprinkle in a healthy dose of endowed chairs for new faculty, create some endowed research funds, add in some sorely needed academic refurbishments and equipment, and maybe even found some institutes that otherwise wouldn't exist. In such a fantasy hypothetical, that money would get chewed through instantaneously on things of actual substance.

My point in this whole thing was to showcase if Pitt were to spend money, $40 mill would be best spent on Campus for the team using it year round along with all the students for things like intermurals or just going for a run. Maybe even UPMC to heal people even when the team isn't there.

People have no clue how beneficial ( financially ) playing at Heinz Field is to Pitt. It's been estimated Pitt pays about $1 million or less per year to use Heinz where financing a stadium would cost $1 million per month.

I do think it would be in Pitt's, UPMC and the City's interest to get matching Federal money to create smart transportation.

$400 million on a Stadium is insane. I have always thought providing the best student housing would be best money spent for Attraction and retention.

Getting the team back on campus to practice would also be a wise investment for Attraction and retention.

 

[Delpanther]

You didn't answer my question but I'll answer yours because it is very easy to answer.

Neither. Neither spending $400 million on transportation infrastructure for the city/county nor spending $400 million on an athletic project is anywhere near Pitt's mission statement.

Now if someone donates $400 million to Pitt for those specific purposes, sure, Pitt maybe could be the steward of such projects. Not that it would make sense to donate $400 million to Pitt for public transportation when it could be donated to the city itself, or to a foundation or organization specially tasked with undertaking such a project. Pitt really isn't set up to handle that because it isn't in the business of building public transportation systems. It probably would turn such a donation down, to be honest, because it makes no sense whatsoever to funnel that through Pitt.

The reality of a stadium has been addressed ad nauseum and either you deal with the reality that exists or you live in a fantasy world where you can ride unicorns back and forth from Towers to the Cathedral.

And Pitt will never have $400 million just laying around to do with what it pleases. And if it did, there are about 1,000 things more pertinent to bettering itself as an institution within its core missions of education, research, and community outreach. Start by putting a large chunk of it in financial aid, sprinkle in a healthy dose of endowed chairs for new faculty, create some endowed research funds, add in some sorely needed academic refurbishments and equipment, and maybe even found some institutes that otherwise wouldn't exist. In such a fantasy hypothetical, that money would get chewed through instantaneously on things of actual substance.

Right from Nerdy's philosophy book to you.......

 

[CrazyPaco]

My point in this whole thing was to showcase if Pitt were to spend money, $40 mill would be best spent on Campus for the team using it year round along with all the students for things like intermurals or just going for a run. Maybe even UPMC to heal people even when the team isn't there.

People have no clue how beneficial ( financially ) playing at Heinz Field is to Pitt. It's been estimated Pitt pays about $1 million or less per year to use Heinz where financing a stadium would cost $1 million per month.

I do think it would be in Pitt's, UPMC and the City's interest to get matching Federal money to create smart transportation.

$400 million on a Stadium is insane. I have always thought providing the best student housing would be best money spent for Attraction and retention.

Getting the team back on campus to practice would also be a wise investment for Attraction and retention.

Putting the team back on campus to practice has most of the same issues as a stadium and is equally likely to happen.

Pitt and UPMC have nothing to do with federal transportation spending.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Better connecting Oakland to town has a better chance of actually happening. That would help.

 

[Saboteur]

My point in this whole thing was to showcase if Pitt were to spend money, $40 mill would be best spent on Campus for the team using it year round along with all the students for things like intermurals or just going for a run. Maybe even UPMC to heal people even when the team isn't there.

People have no clue how beneficial ( financially ) playing at Heinz Field is to Pitt. It's been estimated Pitt pays about $1 million or less per year to use Heinz where financing a stadium would cost $1 million per month.

I do think it would be in Pitt's, UPMC and the City's interest to get matching Federal money to create smart transportation.

$400 million on a Stadium is insane. I have always thought providing the best student housing would be best money spent for Attraction and retention.

Getting the team back on campus to practice would also be a wise investment for Attraction and retention.

Pittsburgh got its ass kicked in the competition for Smart City funds. They thought they had a sure thing and WHAM!
Columbus got the 50,000,000.00.
You can't neglect transportation for 6 decades and then claim you were smart.
That ship sailed and Pittsburgh will never realize it's full potential because of it.
I'm serious. Were I Pitt, I wouldn't build an outhouse in the City.

 

[eastcoasthoops]

Pittsburgh got its ass kicked in the competition for Smart City funds. They thought they had a sure thing and WHAM!
Columbus got the 50,000,000.00.
You can't neglect transportation for 6 decades and then claim you were smart.
That ship sailed and Pittsburgh will never realize it's full potential because of it.
I'm serious. Were I Pitt, I wouldn't build an outhouse in the City.

You make a great point.

I think the promotion of the "bike lanes" in the city as some kind of earth shattering evidence of Pittsburgh's cutting edge transportation solutions is laughable. And for drivers, a general pain in the ass.

Wouldn't it be incredible though if the region were to figure out a way to connect the revitalization of East Liberty, through Oakland/Shadyside...through the Hill and into the City? There is so much space in the city that is a tax drain...imagine if a transportation solution would kick start additional development and revitalization.

One can dream right?

 

[SVPanther]

Pittsburgh need more people.

 

[mdpitt]

Pittsburgh need more people.

Jacksonville Florida is the 12th largest City in the US and has the same square miles as Allegheny County. Allegheny County has 500,000 more people than Jacksonville. Make the County Pittsburgh and we have the 10th largest City in America.

The square milage of "Pittsburgh is among the smallest in the country.

Pittsburgh should be the County to be more similar to the size of other cities.

 

[SVPanther]

Well, not according to the link. It's like the Pittsburgh metro area is 26th nationally. As the article notes, especially given the region older in age than just about any region in the U.S. and deaths exceed births, the only thing that's going to turn this around is migration to the region. If I was the Czar of the region, I'd be appealing to take in every refugee from anywhere and everywhere. I don't see another solution given the trends.Hopefully, those people become entrepreneurial, establish businesses and, more importantly, make roots here. Ohh....and have lots of kids.
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/r...ine-in-Pittsburgh-region/stories/201603240067