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If Pitt wins the final 2 games, they likely get the double-bye in DC

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Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.
 
Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.

As long as Pitt keeps winning, I'd be happy with the 6 seed. But it sure would be nice to have some things fall our way and jump past all of the teams that have been getting more love than us this year. It would also be really nice to be a team on a roll heading into March Madness!
 
Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.

We would also need Virginia to beat Clemson (it's at Clemson).
 
Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.
Be careful what you wish for - if I remember correctly, Pitt lost the first game every time we had a double bye in the Big East tourney.
 
Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.
I was saying this when ND was playing GT. We are now in good position to finish 4th-6th if we take care of business.
 
Right now:

4. Duke 10-6
5. ND 10-6
6. Pitt 11-7

Duke finishes with home games against Wake and UNC. UNC will want revenge and is better than Duke.

ND finishes with home games against Miami and NCSU. Miami is better than ND, but Pitt is the only team that has won at South Bend this year.

If Miami and UNC can win road games at ND and Duke... and Pitt wins out.... Pitt is the #4 seed in DC and will get the double-bye.

Hard to believe.

But even if Duke and ND win.... Pitt getting the 6-seed in DC would be a nice place to be.

What a difference a day makes, huh? Let's play like we did today and win these last two. Maybe some of these fans will let Jamie keep his job for another week.
 
Be careful what you wish for - if I remember correctly, Pitt lost the first game every time we had a double bye in the Big East tourney.
Even if we lose the first game, a double bye in the ACC means at minimum a 6 or 7 seed in the NCAA.
 
Even if we lose the first game, a double bye in the ACC means at minimum a 6 or 7 seed in the NCAA.
I know you will talk about this some tomorrow, but a very good bubble day for Pitt. Not only a win, but some teams that may have been ahead of us, UConn and USC, now clearly behind us, and other teams like Tulsa probably fell out of the bracket altogether.

Seems actually like a fairly easy field to forecast. ACC seems like 95% to get 7 teams in, Big 12 has no bubble teams, Big East I think will get all their teams in (except Creighton), Big 10 only has one (Michigan...I don't think Ohio State's win over Iowa moves them up much, didn't really boost their RPI a whole lot), PAC-12 I think is down to USC on the bubble (I think Oregon St gets in barring collapse). Bubbilicious leagues would really to me only be the SEC (Vandy-Fla-Bama in that order), A-10 (St Bonnies-VCU-GW), AAC (Uconn-Temple-Cincy-Tulsa) and the the mid majors if they lose (Monmouth, Valpo).

Will be interesting to see how similar the bracket projections are right now. On bracket matrix, once you get out of first four teams out, you really start scraping the bottom of the barrel so to speak.
 
I know you will talk about this some tomorrow, but a very good bubble day for Pitt. Not only a win, but some teams that may have been ahead of us, UConn and USC, now clearly behind us, and other teams like Tulsa probably fell out of the bracket altogether.

Seems actually like a fairly easy field to forecast. ACC seems like 95% to get 7 teams in, Big 12 has no bubble teams, Big East I think will get all their teams in (except Creighton), Big 10 only has one (Michigan...I don't think Ohio State's win over Iowa moves them up much, didn't really boost their RPI a whole lot), PAC-12 I think is down to USC on the bubble (I think Oregon St gets in barring collapse). Bubbilicious leagues would really to me only be the SEC (Vandy-Fla-Bama in that order), A-10 (St Bonnies-VCU-GW), AAC (Uconn-Temple-Cincy-Tulsa) and the the mid majors if they lose (Monmouth, Valpo).

Will be interesting to see how similar the bracket projections are right now. On bracket matrix, once you get out of first four teams out, you really start scraping the bottom of the barrel so to speak.

Agree with all this. Shaping up to be a relatively easy to predict Selection Sunday.
 
What could change the bubble math is if there are bid stealers.

If any of these teams lose their conference tourneys, it could cost a high major team a bid:

Wichita State
Valparaiso
St. Mary's
Arkansas-Little Rock

Those are teams that are likely from 1-bid leagues.... as long as those teams win their league tourney. Any of those four, if they don't get an auto-bid, could steal an at-large bid.

If you're one of the "last four in" teams.... you want to see those four teams win out.
 
We would also need Virginia to beat Clemson (it's at Clemson).

If Pitt, Duke, ND, and Clem all finish 11-7:

Pitt, ND, and Clem would be 2-1 in the mini conference. Duke 0-3 and would get 7 seed.

Next tiebreaker is record against #1 team and then move down the list until the tie is broken. Pitt has not beaten UNC, Miami, Lou, or UVa so we would be 6th.

That said, if we win 2 this week, there's a good chance that Clem, ND, and Duke all lose 1. However, I highly doubt we will beat both Techs on the road. They are quality NIT-level teams.
 
What could change the bubble math is if there are bid stealers.

If any of these teams lose their conference tourneys, it could cost a high major team a bid:

Wichita State
Valparaiso
St. Mary's
Arkansas-Little Rock

Those are teams that are likely from 1-bid leagues.... as long as those teams win their league tourney. Any of those four, if they don't get an auto-bid, could steal an at-large bid.

If you're one of the "last four in" teams.... you want to see those four teams win out.
"Could" is the operative word there. I don't think valpo or little rock would be ahead of Pitt, even if Pitt lost out, and they lost in conference finals. I would add Monmouth to the list.
 
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