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Is there a more boring college football than SEC football?

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One big Meh.

Was looking forward to games today, but this game is doing nothing for me. Part of the problem is Vern Lundquist is horrible to listen to.

Can't wait for the night games, I think they'll be much better.
 
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Maybe this year. Traditionally, easily the best and most entertaining.

If you love good defense, then this is definately the game to watch.
 
Maybe this year. Traditionally, easily the best and most entertaining.

If you love good defense, then this is definately the game to watch.

FSU put up 27 on that Florida defense. Florida's defense is highly rated because they played a shit schedule.
 
Florida's defense is damn good. Take into account the crap offense they have to try to compensate for week after week.

8 straight National Titles. 11 in the past 19 years. Big Pretend?
 
Isn't Danielson a nitter? I have always thought he sees more than others as a color analyst. Verne has slipped but he is the closest to Keith Jackson that we can get
 
If the seeds hold and Alabama has to play OU in Dallas they will get smoked in what should basically be an Oklahoma home game.
Won't be a Oklahoma home game. Each team gets 40% of the tickets, and Alabama will fill all of theirs.
 
The big pretend has won 11 titles in 19 years?

Ha. My bad. I meant to make that a different paragraph.

I would usually agree with you about the Big Pretend. However, the last few years, they have stepped it up a lot. I found many Big 10 games to be exciting and well played. People on this board probably watch PSU so much, their opinion of the entire conference might be skewed.
 
Ha. My bad. I meant to make that a different paragraph.

I would usually agree with you about the Big Pretend. However, the last few years, they have stepped it up a lot. I found many Big 10 games to be exciting and well played. People on this board probably watch PSU so much, their opinion of the entire conference might be skewed.

Here's how I look at the Big Ten:

Pitt is as good as Iowa. It took a 57-yard FG at the end of regulation, as well as a coaching mistake by Narduzzi in not going for it on 4th and 1 foot from the Iowa 40, for Iowa to beat us in their stadium. And they're 12-0 and leading in the Big Ten championship game. If Iowa goes to the playoff, I think they'll get absolutely smoked by Alabama, Clemson, or Oklahoma.

Congrats to Iowa for winning all their games... but they aren't one of the best 10 teams in the country, and if they played a good schedule, they'd not even be in the conversation.

Ohio State's 11-1 record was done against a schedule that is not in the Top 60 in the country. If another Big Ten school without their "cache" - say a Minnesota or Purdue - had played that schedule and gone 11-1, *NOBODY* would even be considering them for the playoff.

Michigan's 9-3 was done against a schedule that was easier than Pitt's.... and if their coach wasn't named Harbaugh.... nobody would consider a win over them as a HUGE win.

Michigan State has sneaked by all season by the skin of their teeth. Close game after close game and they lost to a bad Nebraska team.

I think the top 3 teams of the ACC.... Clemson, FSU, and UNC..... are better than ANY team in the Big Ten this year.


And you're right about one thing.... if someone's opinion of the Big Ten was based only on PSU's games, then people would consider it no better than the MAC.
 
And we looked to CUSA & the Big 10 to make our last 3 coaching hires.

And until Narduzzi, we did a poor job of it. Including the one before, in which we went to a coach who was fired in the midst of a 1-win season with the Dolphins.

But the thing about Narduzzi is this..... MSU's defense WAS the real deal for the past several years, and did it against P5 teams OUTSIDE of the Big Ten.

It's a good league..... but it isn't better than the ACC this year. Actually, I think all 5 P5 leagues are pretty equivalent this year.
 
Here's how I look at the Big Ten:

Pitt is as good as Iowa. It took a 57-yard FG at the end of regulation, as well as a coaching mistake by Narduzzi in not going for it on 4th and 1 foot from the Iowa 40, for Iowa to beat us in their stadium. And they're 12-0 and leading in the Big Ten championship game. If Iowa goes to the playoff, I think they'll get absolutely smoked by Alabama, Clemson, or Oklahoma.

Congrats to Iowa for winning all their games... but they aren't one of the best 10 teams in the country, and if they played a good schedule, they'd not even be in the conversation.

Ohio State's 11-1 record was done against a schedule that is not in the Top 60 in the country. If another Big Ten school without their "cache" - say a Minnesota or Purdue - had played that schedule and gone 11-1, *NOBODY* would even be considering them for the playoff.

Michigan's 9-3 was done against a schedule that was easier than Pitt's.... and if their coach wasn't named Harbaugh.... nobody would consider a win over them as a HUGE win.

Michigan State has sneaked by all season by the skin of their teeth. Close game after close game and they lost to a bad Nebraska team.

I think the top 3 teams of the ACC.... Clemson, FSU, and UNC..... are better than ANY team in the Big Ten this year.


And you're right about one thing.... if someone's opinion of the Big Ten was based only on PSU's games, then people would consider it no better than the MAC.

tOSU is easily the best team in the Big 10. They are head and shoulders above FSU and UNC. UNC's defense is garbage. If there were any doubt that they didn't belong with the big boys, they went out and proved it tonight.
 
tOSU is easily the best team in the Big 10. They are head and shoulders above FSU and UNC. UNC's defense is garbage. If there were any doubt that they didn't belong with the big boys, they went out and proved it tonight.

tOSU might be the best team on paper..... but they played a shit schedule (only one win against a ranked team).... and played down to their competition all year.

I would argue that this year was one of Urban's worst coaching jobs, despite their record. His team lacked focus most of the year, and his decision to give Elliott only 13 carries against MSU on a rainy day in a tight game was beyond stupid.

OSU might have the most talented roster in America.... but they didn't translate that on the field and they didn't challenge themselves schedule-wise. They clearly don't belong in the playoff. At some point, you have to look at the actual results and play on the field and not the star-rankings of the roster.
 
I think the Big Ten has been overrated for years and the SEC has been by far the best. But personally I think the Big Ten is the most entertaining to watch any given game. To me, it's the most like the pro style of football.
 
One big Meh.

Was looking forward to games today, but this game is doing nothing for me. Part of the problem is Vern Lundquist is horrible to listen to.

Can't wait for the night games, I think they'll be much better.
No doubt that Alabama and LSU and some others in the sec play a more conservative offense but what still sets most of the sec teams apart from the lesser quality power 5 conference teams us the quality of their offensive and defensive lines-lot of top quality linemen in that league, particularly on defense.
 
tOSU might be the best team on paper..... but they played a shit schedule (only one win against a ranked team).... and played down to their competition all year.

I would argue that this year was one of Urban's worst coaching jobs, despite their record. His team lacked focus most of the year, and his decision to give Elliott only 13 carries against MSU on a rainy day in a tight game was beyond stupid.

OSU might have the most talented roster in America.... but they didn't translate that on the field and they didn't challenge themselves schedule-wise. They clearly don't belong in the playoff. At some point, you have to look at the actual results and play on the field and not the star-rankings of the roster.

I'm not saying they should be in the playoffs& I agree with just about everything you say. I just think they are the best team in the Big 10 and easily better than FSU & UNC.
 
Here's how I look at the Big Ten:

Pitt is as good as Iowa. It took a 57-yard FG at the end of regulation, as well as a coaching mistake by Narduzzi in not going for it on 4th and 1 foot from the Iowa 40, for Iowa to beat us in their stadium. And they're 12-0 and leading in the Big Ten championship game. If Iowa goes to the playoff, I think they'll get absolutely smoked by Alabama, Clemson, or Oklahoma.

Congrats to Iowa for winning all their games... but they aren't one of the best 10 teams in the country, and if they played a good schedule, they'd not even be in the conversation.

Ohio State's 11-1 record was done against a schedule that is not in the Top 60 in the country. If another Big Ten school without their "cache" - say a Minnesota or Purdue - had played that schedule and gone 11-1, *NOBODY* would even be considering them for the playoff.

Michigan's 9-3 was done against a schedule that was easier than Pitt's.... and if their coach wasn't named Harbaugh.... nobody would consider a win over them as a HUGE win.

Michigan State has sneaked by all season by the skin of their teeth. Close game after close game and they lost to a bad Nebraska team.

I think the top 3 teams of the ACC.... Clemson, FSU, and UNC..... are better than ANY team in the Big Ten this year.


And you're right about one thing.... if someone's opinion of the Big Ten was based only on PSU's games, then people would consider it no better than the MAC.
What a horseshit post this is. Pitt is as good as Iowa because we played them even up to the last second in the second game of the season? OK. So using that exquisite reasoning, Northwestern is better than Stanford, Ole Miss is better than Bama, Texas is better than Oklahoma, Vt last year was better than OSU was, etc, etc, etc. Great stuff there.
 
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