It Begins...Penn State Loses Another Committ, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

As predicted, what Franklin did in approaching to poach other Programs Recruits instead of coaching his own Players, has come back to haunt him now? What goes around comes around.

I posted earlier this year there is fraternity of coaches that expect competition and all trying to gain an edge. But There are always a few that talk louder than they can walk the talk, and when they behave like that they lose the respect of that Coaching Fraternity of respect.

Franklin does not have the respect of a number of them due to his Public Persona when he meets and greets you as taught by Tony Robbins. Versus his actions later when he attempts to poach instead of coach?

I was not just told thism I was told check out the faces how the Coaches greet and meet at end the games in handshakes by some Bookie Friends? Meyer, Harbaugh and Dantonio all had wiry smiles and Franklin just did a quick shake with a look on his face like, I got to get out of here and then ran off? Meyer actually refused eye contact and looked away and then chuckled!

The biggest problem Franklin has now is he has to be careful he doesn't hire his Replacement?

The smart recruits are seeing through the Franklin fluff and puff and look towards winning coaching now! There is another that has left but not out yet! Penn State Franklin made a great fanfare with big headlines when this Recruit Committed that has already left, and it is not the one below.

I now believe these De-Committs are the reasons why Franklin held a Pre-Pearl Harbor Press Conference as Telegrams have been sent but no one got the message until the many ScholarSHIPS were Sunk!

Additionally, that promise that Franklin will stay at Penn State a long time after his name was mentioned and he did a Big Press Conference earlier this year???? Not Going To Happen! JUST A HUNCH!

Article & Link On The De-Commit:
PENNLIVE LINK:
Penn State Loses Four-Star Corner Lavert Hill, As Michigan Senior Decommits Sunday Night LINK!

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefo...oses_four-star_cor.html#incart_2box_topmobile

 

[Pittx9]

Was it Maryland or Rutgers... I think it was Maryland, that wouldn't even shake hands with the Penn State players a couple years ago. Everyone outside of State College knows what a disgusting cesspool that place is. Add to the mix the fact that Franklin is the cockiest nobody on Earth, not surprising at all other coaches don't respect him.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Pittx9, post: 574571, member: 15348"]Was it Maryland or Rutgers... I think it was Maryland, that wouldn't even shake hands with the Penn State players a couple years ago. Everyone outside of State College knows what a disgusting cesspool that place is. Add to the mix the fact that Franklin is the cockiest nobody on Earth, not surprising at all other coaches don't respect him.
I do not think that is the same thing, and to be fair, that had nothing to do with Franklin whatsoever.

In my opinion, that was just other fans deciding to be rude to Penn State Fans due to years of their own arrogance, ignorance and banter after they lost their swagger thinking they were better than other Programs and Universities until the Penn State Scandal proved otherwise? Has seen on BWI and Banned if you dare post it?

Franklin and his Coaches and Players are under the Director of Ethics & Compliance, Athletic Integrity Officer (AIA Athletic Integrity Agreement), Judicial Student Discipline, Title XI/Clery Act/AIA/Athletic Code of Conduct, And President of Penn State with a NCAA Monitor.

Unlike Paterno that never follow those compliance restrictions because Penn State did not have them until 2012 due to President Spanier and AD's Curley that never had Institutional Control over Paterno? Franklin has made some minor violations too, but he has been put back in line, as reported by Penn State Collegian.

Additionally, to be even more fair, Recruits that have De-Committed all have written nice messages on why they are doing it, and thank Franklin and Penn State for their consideration!

So, I don't think it is an issue with Franklin's Personality he is very likable and personal when you meet him, and that is to be admired too.

I think it is a pure issue some Recruits are seeing they can get better Coaching at other Programs that can show they win and coach up as well as a number of other reasons as any Recruit that chooses any Program?

The people that have some issues with Franklin are some Coaches that did not care how Franklin and his Recruiting poach many Programs right up to signing day. There comes a time you don't need to do it that way, Franklin has not learned it! Franklin will still have a terrific class but so far cannot turn them into terrific Teams after 25 Games?

Now that he dumped his OC others may think there is a bigger problem at Penn State, and they are not wrong either, because there is, and it involves the very Leadership at that University that made O'Brien want to leave, and Franklin may be seeing the same under currents negative things now???

In summary, recruits and parents may like Franklin far more than Big Ten & Other Coaches respect him, but it is not due to his coaching?

We shall see?

 

[thebadby2]

As predicted, what Franklin did in approaching to poach other Programs Recruits instead of coaching his own Players, has come back to haunt him now? What goes around comes around.

I posted earlier this year there is fraternity of coaches that expect competition and all trying to gain an edge. But There are always a few that talk louder than they can walk the talk, and when they behave like that they lose the respect of that Coaching Fraternity of respect.

Franklin does not have the respect of a number of them due to his Public Persona when he meets and greets you as taught by Tony Robbins. Versus his actions later when he attempts to poach instead of coach?

I was not just told thism I was told check out the faces how the Coaches greet and meet at end the games in handshakes by some Bookie Friends? Meyer, Harbaugh and Dantonio all had wiry smiles and Franklin just did a quick shake with a look on his face like, I got to get out of here and then ran off? Meyer actually refused eye contact and looked away and then chuckled!

The biggest problem Franklin has now is he has to be careful he doesn't hire his Replacement?

The smart recruits are seeing through the Franklin fluff and puff and look towards winning coaching now! There is another that has left but not out yet! Penn State Franklin made a great fanfare with big headlines when this Recruit Committed that has already left, and it is not the one below.

I now believe these De-Committs are the reasons why Franklin held a Pre-Pearl Harbor Press Conference as Telegrams have been sent but no one got the message until the many ScholarSHIPS were Sunk!

Additionally, that promise that Franklin will stay at Penn State a long time after his name was mentioned and he did a Big Press Conference earlier this year???? Not Going To Happen! JUST A HUNCH!

Article & Link On The De-Commit:
PENNLIVE LINK:
Penn State Loses Four-Star Corner Lavert Hill, As Michigan Senior Decommits Sunday Night LINK!

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefo...oses_four-star_cor.html#incart_2box_topmobile

this one has been in the works for months. Hill has been practically living in Ann Arbor on Saturdays. Good business decision by the kid.

At this point I'm wondering how any skill position player or O lineman finds that program even remotely attractive.

 

[pittdan77]

He wasn't Penn State material.

 

[vegasgreed]

wouldn't be surprised if they lose more.

 

[Pghfan]

Isnt there a gentlemen's agreement between big 10 coaches, not to poach each other's recruits? I swear I remember reading about this. Maybe an outdated concept or another conference I am thinking about.

 

[paulbl99]

Isnt there a gentlemen's agreement between big 10 coaches, not to poach each other's recruits? I swear I remember reading about this. Maybe an outdated concept or another conference I am thinking about.

Maybe
Between gentlemen

 

[Saboteur]

Oh captain my Captain...you wrote
"The biggest problem Franklin has now is he has to be careful he doesn't hire his Replacement?"

Truer words were never spoken. Franklin is insecure and that is why he sells like he does. 5 years with his OC and poof, he realizes he can't "HACK" it (pun intended).
I don't speak to PSU fans about their team because I don't want to have to shower 5 times a day afterwards, but he is the classic Emperor's clothes clone.

 

[Chaos]

Maybe
Between gentlemen

I think that ended when Urban Meyer entered the conference.

 

[Chaos]

"Pittx9, post: 574571, member: 15348"]Was it Maryland or Rutgers... I think it was Maryland, that wouldn't even shake hands with the Penn State players a couple years ago. Everyone outside of State College knows what a disgusting cesspool that place is. Add to the mix the fact that Franklin is the cockiest nobody on Earth, not surprising at all other coaches don't respect him.
I do not think that is the same thing, and to be fair, that had nothing to do with Franklin whatsoever.

In my opinion, that was just other fans deciding to be rude to Penn State Fans due to years of their own arrogance, ignorance and banter after they lost their swagger thinking they were better than other Programs and Universities until the Penn State Scandal proved otherwise? Has seen on BWI and Banned if you dare post it?

Franklin and his Coaches and Players are under the Director of Ethics & Compliance, Athletic Integrity Officer (AIA Athletic Integrity Agreement), Judicial Student Discipline, Title XI/Clery Act/AIA/Athletic Code of Conduct, And President of Penn State with a NCAA Monitor.

Unlike Paterno that never follow those compliance restrictions because Penn State did not have them until 2012 due to President Spanier and AD's Curley that never had Institutional Control over Paterno? Franklin has made some minor violations too, but he has been put back in line, as reported by Penn State Collegian.

Additionally, to be even more fair, Recruits that have De-Committed all have written nice messages on why they are doing it, and thank Franklin and Penn State for their consideration!

So, I don't think it is an issue with Franklin's Personality he is very likable and personal when you meet him, and that is to be admired too.

I think it is a pure issue some Recruits are seeing they can get better Coaching at other Programs that can show they win and coach up as well as a number of other reasons as any Recruit that chooses any Program?

The people that have some issues with Franklin are some Coaches that did not care how Franklin and his Recruiting poach many Programs right up to signing day. There comes a time you don't need to do it that way, Franklin has not learned it! Franklin will still have a terrific class but so far cannot turn them into terrific Teams after 25 Games?

Now that he dumped his OC others may think there is a bigger problem at Penn State, and they are not wrong either, because there is, and it involves the very Leadership at that University that made O'Brien want to leave, and Franklin may be seeing the same under currents negative things now???

In summary, recruits and parents may like Franklin far more than Big Ten & Other Coaches respect him, but it is not due to his coaching?

We shall see?

I thought that was in response to Franklin making a condescending comment about Maryland being Penn State territory, or something like that.

 

[Farnox]

Isnt there a gentlemen's agreement between big 10 coaches, not to poach each other's recruits? I swear I remember reading about this. Maybe an outdated concept or another conference I am thinking about.

Maybe the previously mentioned coach is not a gentleman.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Will be interesting to see if Bobby Shoop (DC) looks to move on. LSU tried to take him last year, now with him losing basically his entire DLine, it might be time to get out now.

 

[thebadby2]

Isnt there a gentlemen's agreement between big 10 coaches, not to poach each other's recruits? I swear I remember reading about this. Maybe an outdated concept or another conference I am thinking about.

No.

 

[ncyajleel]

I can't confirm this because I was working, but my son was watching Game Day before the OSU/MSU game and he said he could hear the "Penn State" sucks chant then. Neither team was playing PoSU, so that tells me either everyone is disgusted by PoSU or as PoSU fans like to say, everyone is jealous of them.

Was it Maryland or Rutgers... I think it was Maryland, that wouldn't even shake hands with the Penn State players a couple years ago. Everyone outside of State College knows what a disgusting cesspool that place is. Add to the mix the fact that Franklin is the cockiest nobody on Earth, not surprising at all other coaches don't respect him.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

His BS may play well with naive high school kids, but to his colleagues in the coaching profession, he's as transparent as clean air. As the saying goes, "It takes one to know one".

When compared to Meyer, Harbaugh, and Dantonio, Franklin is in the Pop Warner League level of coaches.

 

[yourhired]

Franklin is a sleaze and everyone in the big ten knows it. He had no problem swiping Vanderbilt commitments when he first started at PSU then last year he took two from Pitt and one from Indiana. I hope they all decommit

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

wouldn't be surprised if they lose more.

Looks like Quinn Nordin has Decommitted too, and is now a Michigan Leaning Recruit! Read the Tweet but Rivals still has him Penn State? Now one knows why Franklin is in panic mode!

Last year at this time Franklin was poaching other programs now due to his poor coaching he is being poached and has to fire a coach!

Link:
http://247sports.com/Player/Quinn-Nordin-77733

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

No.

Agree, Thebaby2 there is no such agreement but once you see handshakes after games, you can tell, the competitive nature of coaches does exists and Franklin does not have their respect!

Steve Pederson had big trouble in attracting better coaches due to how he acted on Johnny Majors, Frank Solich, and Dave Wannstedt, he became much of the problem at Pitt by his own actions.

Pitt could not advance until Steve was let go at Pitt, he wore out his welcome and innovations at two Programs, one he could not rebuild into a Top 25 program, and another he could not maintain a top 25 Program and they are still rebuilding too?

It is important a University selects the right people, look at Rutgers today, they are correcting their own problems too, by dumping the Coach and Athletic Director!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Will be interesting to see if Bobby Shoop (DC) looks to move on. LSU tried to take him last year, now with him losing basically his entire DLine, it might be time to get out now.

His Brother just might be gone too, as Purdue OC, after the firing of the Purdue Head Coach. Wonder if Franklin chooses another Shoop and if not does that upset DC Shoops??? If other leave Penn State, that will be another sign of impending doom and gloom.

As stated, in spite of Franklin & Staff Recruiting, Coaching Character Matters, and as predicted Meyer, Harbaugh and Dantonio are far tougher challengers and Franklin is already have setbacks and problems in his 3rd year?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

THE SANCTIONS! THE SANCTIONS! Another thing that happens, no doubt Franklin is a great recruiter, but it is becoming apparent he is also a high pressure salesman, who try and get kids to commit verbally and publicly before maybe they are really ready to.

A potential good outcome of all of this is with these decommits, it would be easier for a certain WH running back to do the same now.

 

[melwood]

Will be interesting to see if Bobby Shoop (DC) looks to move on. LSU tried to take him last year, now with him losing basically his entire DLine, it might be time to get out now.

Shoop will definitely be a finalist for Tulane. Hope he goes and takes a few guys with him...
The Nits are clamoring for big Ralph Friedgen to be the new OC. Talking like he 'invented' the read option offense Franklin likes to run. Meh....

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Saboteur, post: 575024, member: 5688"]Oh captain my Captain...you wrote
"The biggest problem Franklin has now is he has to be careful he doesn't hire his Replacement?"

Truer words were never spoken. Franklin is insecure and that is why he sells like he does. 5 years with his OC and poof, he realizes he can't "HACK" it (pun intended).
I don't speak to PSU fans about their team because I don't want to have to shower 5 times a day afterwards, but he is the classic Emperor's clothes clone.
I suspect he will go for a Retread Older Coach rather than a Young Dynamic One that could leave or replace him.

I would try and grab Mike Munchak that rebuilt the Steeler's OL, but I doubt he will, he is too afraid of him replacing him, no question he will be pressured to hire JayPa by that underhanded undercurrent that exists at State College and that would drop or settle current Lawsuits by the Paterno Family.

I suspect he goes like Paterno did when Paterno was struggling and brought back Galen Hall that was fired at Florida for NCAA Violations to help out Jay Paterno that was struggling not as OC but was a De Facto Coach that impacted on the Program demise in the Big Ten.

Many think UMD Old Head Coach Friedgen (OC Rutgers) may be the candidate or Mark Mangino (Former OC ISU) with ties to this regions Recruiting and both let go wiuth Changes at ISU (Earlier by Rhoads) and Rutgers now. Both look alike by the way and are good coaches!

In any event, it will be a very revealing decision on judging how Franklin is copes and changes his Staff, after bragging just 4 days ago, he had a long time staff that knows what it is doing....then the MSU Blow Out happen?????

We shall see?

 

[Saboteur]

I can't confirm this because I was working, but my son was watching Game Day before the OSU/MSU game and he said he could hear the "Penn State" sucks chant then. Neither team was playing PoSU, so that tells me either everyone is disgusted by PoSU or as PoSU fans like to say, everyone is jealous of them.

Having beaten PSU 14 out of the last 18 games and 4 in a row in Creepy Valley, OSU fans can rightfully say that PSU sucks....perhaps swallows at this juncture.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Having beaten PSU 14 out of the last 18 games and 4 in a row in Creepy Valley, OSU fans can rightfully say that PSU sucks....perhaps swallows at this juncture.

I used to go on the Ohio State Boards to read about the Program and i once worked an lived in Ohio and still go to Youngstown and Cleveland often, just invited to the OSU Meyer Cruise for Cancer Fundraising.

Prior to the Penn State Scandal, BWI CULTits would go on the OSU Boards and just be brutal posting the Buckeye Fans are corrupt and have a terrible Program compared to Paterno's Patron Saint Program.

Then the Penn State Scandal hit and Ohio State Posters now treat the Penn State Posters as Gnats that are sprayed and swiped away!

There is only a few of the dumb to dumber to dumbest PSU Posters that still think they have swagger, one is PennyLiar taht may have been recently burned in a Dumpster Fire???

I can see him now, typing with burnt finger stubs, on OSU, MSU, & Michigan Boards right now even in his cold dead hands not letting go Paterno's Legacy Demise in disbelief that one cares to remember or respects him anymore.

The Big Ten Conference took care of reducing Paterno's Coaching and Wins, and Rivals Posters on Michigan, MSU, Iowa, and Ohio State took care of BWI's Posters Penn State Man Made Myths of Magic and Miracles versus the realities of Penn State & Paterno's Big Ten and NCAA Rules Breaking, Non-Compliance's, and Laws Breaking.

The Perception of Penn State & Paterno's Grand Experiment, Success With Honor, and the Penn State Way, has taken a turn for the worst based on the truth and the American Way of wiping clean the Myths and Conspiracies on BWI versus Big Ten Boards!

 

[Pittx9]

so that tells me either everyone is disgusted by PoSU or as PoSU fans like to say, everyone is jealous of them.

Lol yes every fan of any school just wishes that Sandusky was their defensive coordinator. So much to be jealous of.