Jaland Lowe to transfer
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Everyone with a brain cell knows you're the one who keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth and contradicting himself. There are zero people - besides, or possibly even including, yourself - who cannot see this.
The only question is whether you're trolling or too stubborn to admit you're wrong.
Players don't magically perform to a skill level that ranks exactly with what each of them received in NIL money before that particular season began. But you know that; you just refuse to admit your argument that Capel is infallible is one that is dumbfoundingly stupid.
So you believe they just decide to pay someone X amount of dollars regardless of past performance . (or potential with a first yr player ) . Do you realize Cooper Flaggs deal is worth close to 5 million /yr .
If Bub would’ve stayed in school I doubt that he would have stayed at Pitt .
Players who outperform their expectations go to the portal to get paid ( don't you pay attention)
I’ve stayed totally consistent
1) Pitt will not eat JC contract with so much money owed to him
2) Pitt didn’t have enough NIL money to add the pieces they needed ( Thiero who was exactly the type of player they needed this yr and Thomas ( next yr ) are perfect examples of local kids who followed the money )
3) Firing JC without a radical increase in NIL money won’t elevate the program
So explain to me how I’m talking” out of both sides of my mouth “
1. You continue to state that nobody knows how much NIL money Pitt has while subsequently saying Pitt has no money.
2. You've said Pitt had no talent. But then you insinuated that Jaland Lowe was talented enough for Pitt to be outbid by Kentucky. So it sounds like Pitt might have had talent after all then. Last I checked, he was one of the players on the team the last two seasons.
3. You're wrong on Bub. He and his dad were tight with Capel, and it was going to be Pitt or the NBA. Nothing else. A donor pledged the money needed to keep him if he'd have chosen to return to Pitt. This was reported by Pitt insiders who don't report information they don't confirm.
4. It's also been reported that some of the other players on the team this past season, including Corhen, were not cheap. Few people may have the exact figures, but some people have some pretty good ballpark info. So it wasn't a matter of not being able to afford anyone better. That's who Capel chose.
5. In addition to Lowe, we've also brought multiple other guys back - including Hinson - after they had a very big season an no doubt could have commanded big bucks on the open market. So stop insinuating that Capel is at some incredible disadvantage. He's not. And he couldn't even win with multiple big-time recruits at Oklahoma after Griffin left.
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All your points are valid. But your last point was spot on. Capel is incapable of winning consistently, even with top players. He's just not a good coach. He can get 1 flash in the pan like Griffin or Hinson or Bub and maybe get an invite to the NCAAT. But it's a one year thing. Without a group of 5*, top end talents, he can't coach or win. There are many, many coaches out there who can do more with less than Capel has had.
Watch what happens at UK with Lowe. Pope is far better than Capel and he'll develop him like Capel couldn't.
Do you know the talent level that will surround Lowe at Kentucky? SEC $$$$ but continue to ramble and side with a handful of know it alls on here. Most of you contribute zero $$$$ to the program. You're trash
Folks here have lost their damned minds
I have contributed more than you will in your entire miserable life. And I actually go to games and have been going to games since the 60's, both football and basketball. But typical of your type...calling others what you actually are. I'm glad to see you at least know you're trash. What you posted doesn't even make sense, but expected from your type.
Respond to posters who give a flying rat's ass what you're saying, because I don't. You're the definition of irrelevant. You and that illiterate pill pusher. Two of a kind.
You're the pathetic POS that has no life and lives on here. You have no clue but keeps spouting off like a little bitch on here as well your handful of Maga cronies. I have good info and have been spot on. Keep guessing tool
Just a handful of the same old turds. Thank goodness i'm on the other site.
Do us Americans a favor. Please stay on the other side, the 20% side. We need you to keep it up and dig that hole deeper for yourselves. We don't want you anywhere near civilization. LOL!
You're so funny, go play in traffic with elon. You're not civil and worship a wannabe dictator. Pathetic
The difference between Ky and Pitt, and between the SEC and ACC, is ginormous. He was a depth hire for now. Sixth or Seventh man this coming season. If he grows higher and wider and ups his game this year, maybe the second guard late this season or next. Great kid and good upside p4 potential, but that remains to be seen. Would have been interesting to see what Sean Miller could have done with him at X, Tex, or Pitt.
I think that's the key with Lowe. If he gets a good coach, he has some pretty decent potential and could develop into a nice second PG. It's going to be interesting watching him play in the SEC and with a good team with players around him who help him.
They need to go slow with him, rather than throw him to wolves right off the bat. That could be disastrous for him.
Lowe is going to be UK's starting PG.
P4 potential? He was 3rd team all ACC this year.
1) I’ve never said Pitt has no money I’ve said that they don’t have enough !
2) I've never said Pitt has no talent I’ve said that they didn’t have enough !
3) There was a close relationship with Bub’s father and there also was also a close relationship with the Lowe family . That didn’t stop Lowe , who was quite emotional after his final game , to leave for greener pastures. Could Pitt have found the money for Bub while keeping Lowe and Ish , who knows , but if that money was available why didn’t they go out and get a shooter or rebounder from the portal ? Money talks BS walks ( to the portal ) .
4) Reported by whom ? (SMF ) none of us know . I’m sure that he got a nice deal , but was he their first choice or was he the guy who was available at their price.
5) Hinson was the only pricey player last year , no one expected Bub to be so good .
6) All you want is for Capel to be fired , that will not solve Pitts problems. First they owe him too much money , second they’ve struggled hiring anyone of note . Nobody wanted the job when KS was fired and Hurly played them leaving them with no other choice but to overpay JC to leave Duke . Let’s not forget nobody wanted the job when Howland left for UCLA forcing Pitt to hire JD ( best thing that ever happened to the program) Face it , Pitt doesn’t attract high end coaching talent .
7) The quickest and cheapest way for Pitt to improve is to find enough NIL money to get better players . Coaching matters , but talent trumps everything. You can’t win without it . Think JD was a better coach early in his career than his last five yrs at Pitt , or did he have better players early ? Was Chuck Noll a better coach in the 70’s vs 80’s or did he have better players in the 70’s . If the Pirates hire the best manager in baseball ……talent wins and it cost money !!
No one knows means no one knows and that includes YOU and me . The team that was put out on the court had several major deficiencies and no bench which suggests that to anyone with a brain that they couldn’t afford the missing pieces . Do you understand ?
JC came from Duke , he’s been around tremendously talented players and knows what they look like , think when he was trotting out the twins he thought he had Duke level players or players who could match up with those players . You can legally buy players today and if money wasn’t the issue why was their roster so flawed ?
I have no skin in the game and don’t really care what they do with regards to who their HC is , you want him fired and I don’t think it will happen or that it matters unless they find the funds to compete for the best players . If you want to kid yourself into thinking that they have the resources go ahead knock yourself out.
Agree that Pitt MBB and football do not attract top or near-top talent, but disagree that more NIL money alone would change that situation overnight. Multiple factors have and continue to contribute to the deficiencies in player talent. Weak conference, below average coaching, off campus football program, etc., AND the NIL/transfer portal world all play roles in attracting mostly 2 or 3 star/mid-major player level talent for MBB and football. We are what we are and we ain’t what we ain’t. H2P!
You can't keep insisting that no one knows while you are also insisting that you know that they didn't have enough.
Or, well, I guess you can keep insisting that, and the rest of us will keep on laughing at the fact that you don't understand that those are two opposite things.
But here's a question for you. Kansas this season clearly underperformed. They were the preseason number one, and they didn't end up anywhere near that good. Is the fact that Kansas wasn't a top team proof that, like Pitt, Kansas didn't have enough money to spend, or is it possible, just possible mind you, that something else was going on there? I mean after all, Bill Self knows better than all of us. So if they weren't as good as they were supposed to be, it must be because Kansas just didn't have enough money to spend, right? Because it couldn't be that Self put together a team that was less than the sum of it's parts. And all knowing basketball coach would never do such a thing.
So clearly Kansas just didn't have enough money to spend, right?
Clearly he can. And I’m gonna go out on that proverbial limb and predict it will continue.
Now you’re comparing Pitts program with Kansas, are you serious ?
Spending money doesn’t always guarantee that you’ll win , but other than Lowe and possibly Ish no other Panther would’ve played anything but mop up time for the Jayhawks. Money doesn’t always guarantee success but not spending enough however will guarantee failure ie Pirates .
My inclination is to think Kansas will add far better players to fill out their roster this year , and it will be with guys who Pitt has no chance with . Why because Kansas will outspent Pitt .
So who on Pitts roster should’ve received more PT and potentially would’ve made a difference…..no one ! Think JC was privately happy with his roster composition ?
Think JC tried to talk anyone out of entering the portal other than Lowe ?
Think the other four will get any major offers ? My guess is that Amsal might get some attention, but the others would be better suited at the mid major level . You’re never going to beat great teams with a roster filled with mid major level players.
My opinion is that Pitt simply doesn’t have the resources to build a highly competitive team yours is that they do . You think I’m wrong and I think that you’re wrong .
You think firing Capel is the play while I think it doesn’t matter until they can acquire ( buy ) the talent needed to compete with the best teams .
But of course your opinion is always correct .
I am comparing two programs that pretty much everyone would agree under performed. But I get that you aren't bright enough to understand that. If Pitt just needed more money to be good, then why didn't the team that may have spent more money than anyone in the country win on Monday? Or at least play over the weekend? Or, heck, even win one game?
We all know it's not that Bill Self could have done anything wrong, because coaches are gods and don't make mistakes. So it has to be the players. But someone spending at the very highest levels wasn't enough either. It's got to blow the mind of someone like you who thinks that coaches are infallible and money is all that matters.
I think both points can be true. Pitt is probably not spending in the top half of the power conferences. Pitt also is one of very few programs that would still be employing Capel as the Coach. I agree the buyout is expensive but when have you seen enough to understand he isn't taking where you want to go. The proof is out there in today's college game programs can be turned around very quickly. Look at St Johns, Ole miss for example.
I am not naive to believe that Pitt's NIL is anywhere close to either school though. So I agree with both points. Need a new coach but also need to increase NIL to aquire talent.
I am not naive to believe that Pitt's NIL is anywhere close to either school though. So I agree with both points. Need a new coach but also need to increase NIL to aquire talent.
