Signed a contract with the Celtics yesterday morning and played a couple minutes for them in their game last night.
Justin Champagnie
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I’d have preferred he was a senior averaging 19 and 10 and leading Pitt to the Elite 8 or so this season. Talk about a skill set that would have helped this team….:
But-we live in a world now where guys leave early knowing they are going to to go undrafted and play in the G league for 5 years. Maybe they get a couple cups of coffee on the big team.
It is what it is, but it’s still a damned shame. Best of luck to Juice.
But-we live in a world now where guys leave early knowing they are going to to go undrafted and play in the G league for 5 years. Maybe they get a couple cups of coffee on the big team.
It is what it is, but it’s still a damned shame. Best of luck to Juice.
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His salary is listed as $1.6 million, so he clearly made the right move.
I can't imagine in the NIL world that he would have lasted 4 years here, but you are right that he would have been a great piece on this year's team. Wonder if you still get Hinson, though?
That’s the essence of the current problem with the college game in a nutshell-that it was the right move.
He made the right move. However, the decision was easy for him. $0 or a realistic chance to make the 480K or whatever the 2 way contract is and work up from there. However, he is the perfect example of a player who, if NIL were allowed sooner, would have transferred to make 200K-300K guaranteed instead of taking the gamble on the NBA.
What's even the rule now for the draft? Can they come back if they dont get drafted? That's what it should be but I cant remember if that ever got changed.
In my head I was thinking he was here 3-4 years ago. Those losing seasons seemed a lot longer than they really were.
I’m not sure there would have been any left over for him since Hugley’s 7 figures sucked it all up
This is like the "Dow 6000." I said if Hugley made 1st team All-ACC this season. And I said if we go long into Covid where it became obvious that a vaccine wouldn't be available. The vaccine was priced in very early.
Correct you made a wildly stupid claim detached feom
Reality in both instances
Right, but many on this board were critical of him leaving at the time and suggesting it was a mistake. Yes, folks were right that there were parts of his game to work on, but he can devote way more time and effort to improving his weaknesses as a professional, as opposed to a student-athlete at Pitt. And on top of that, he gets paid to do it.
He also had two semi-serious knee injuries in two seasons. And I don't think he would have put up better numbers as a junior even if his game was more refined.
It was the right call if his goal was to play hoops professionally.
I take the opposite view. Pitt would never have achieved what it did this year without the transfer portal and NIL opportunities.
Now other college teams can legally compete with the UKs, UCLA, UNCs.
Could you elaborate? Who is he playing for and what are his stats?
He was always a better shooter, better foul shooter, and better ball handler. All which must translates better
A bunch is an exaggeration by me....a few but a 26 pt game isn't nothing to gloss over
Context is important. One plays more minutes on one of the worst teams in the league, while the other plays limited minutes on one of the best teams.
Nonetheless that is a great accomplishment for two brothers to make it to the league and play at the same time.
Some goofballs also though Steven Adams wasn’t ready
People are dumb
Better for a select few individual players. Horrible for the college game itself and for the alums/fans who love it specifically because it’s everything the pro game isn’t. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion on this subject, but I have a really hard time understanding how any fan of the college game thinks what’s happening is actually for the betterment of the sport.
Because it's better for the players, and while I know that the people at ESPN and CBS would like you to think that college basketball is all about the coaches, it really isn't. It is, and always has been, about the players.
It’s bad for the game. Period. If you want another half-asses quasi pro basketball league, half-assed and full of mercenaries and carpetbaggers that couldn’t care less about anything but getting paid starting at age 17 or so, you’re getting it. Enjoy.
This is a matter of opinion, not right or wrong. I am pretty confident that those who genuinely like where the college game is going are in a very small minority of all who have loved it for what it has always been.
It’s been about the money for like… 40 years. Seems like you’re just mad players get a piece of the pie now.
NIL isn't bad for anyone.... however a great argument could be made that how the NCAA didn't manage the NIL situation and totally screwed it up, then I'd listen.
But players were getting paid before this anyhow but only a few could play the game.
I absolutely agree that the NCAA has completely screwed this up.
But if the two choices are that the people who make everyone the money can get a cut of the money or back to the way that it was, when people still got paid but it was all under the table and if a player got caught he couldn't play any more, then the players getting a cut of the money is obviously the better option.
COULD it be better? Sure, absolutely. SHOULD it be better? No question about it. But as long as the organization that runs the show throws up their hands and begs for someone else to fix their problems for them, well, this is about as good as we should have expected.
I just wonder how many of these people are so offended by the people who are responsible for making the money actually getting some of the money have spent their whole life working for free.
"What's that boss, I've made the company tens of thousands of dollars this year and you'd like to give me some cash to compensate me? Nah, no thanks. You keep it. After all, bosses are way more important than the people who actually do the work."
A university is not a for-profit corporate entity, no matter how much revenue their athletics programs generate. And college athletes are not employees of universities. They’re students. So there’s that.
NIL would be fine if it meant licensing rights and a cut of sales to players for sales of their jerseys, their universities’ use of their likenesses for marketing, etc. But what we have right now is a travesty.
Travesty....Hyperbolic word usage.
It's a slight inconvenience to fans who view this all poorly and only the NCAA is to blame.
You would have to think this all ends with employment contracts for athletes followed by a union creation.
We’ve been down this road a million times but I’m always amazed at your ability to view college athletics the way you do.
It’s been a big business my entire lifetime. If football and basketball players were really student athletes they’d be held to the same admissions standards as you and I and 90% would be academically ineligible every year.
If you want to characterize the players as strictly students, then you also have to characterize their teachers, aka coaches, as faculty. And pay them as such. And not be concerned with their won-loss records, but rather what they are teaching their students. How would that work?
I support this! And since coaches move around so much, we should probably pay them like contingent faculty. I'm sure Tom Izzo would definitely be in favor of making oh.... $3,000 per game. No bonuses. No benefits. No buyouts. Just semester-to-semester renewable contracts.
To be fair though, he should also be allowed to sell his name, image and likeness, just like the players. So if the local car dealer wants him to do an ad for them he should be allowed to be paid for that. But not more than the going market rate, as determined by SMF.
I certainly agree that the NCAA is at fault for the situation we have now. They created this situation by failing to meaningfully address this longstanding issue of player compensation for at least the last 2 decades, despite the writing that has been all over the wall all that entire time.
No doubt there was a reasonable way to accomplish this to satisfy the concerns of all sides, but the NCAA didn’t bother with it. Now what we have is an unsustainable, loosely regulated, privately funded pay to play system. Part of the flaw with the argument that NIL is good and fair to the players because the schools are reaping the financial windfalls from their sports is that it’s not the schools that are paying the players under NIL. It’s the Manny Diazs of the world. Equivalent to giving the wolves open access to the henhouses.
I honestly find it incomprehensible that any true fan of college athletics can possibly think that what’s going on right now is somehow a good thing. Please explain how it enhances your appreciation and enjoyment of college sports. Or is it really about some misguided idea that the poor, downtrodden players are finally getting what’s theirs? Anyone who feels that way must not have known any D1 football or basketball players. They have always lived like coddled kings at their universities compared to everyone else, and the best of them-the ones that are getting all the NIL deals now-were simply biding their time for 2-3 years before their pro contracts . And that system worked just fine for 125 years or so. If you want to take a stand for fairness to college athletes, there are a lot of non-revenue or small school athletes that better deserve your sympathies.
