Kizza?
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well, we'll never know what happened. just a note that i find it completely bizarre that a crime could happen on a university campus and the police are never involved. ex - drug possession, underage drinking (not that i hate either). it's just odd to me.
but anyway, we know that the majority of reported sexual assaults are not reported. and those that are, the majority do not move forward with any true investigation. now, in your opinion, that could be different on campus. you're entitled to that opinion and i can't say i deal with on campus assault issues. so i'm not going to argue with you about it.
my opinion, is that it'd be pretty odd to toss a kid, a skilled athlete, out of the school entirely based on an allegation. i could certainly be wrong.
You're nuts if you think that treatment of males is acceptable! WOW! The penalty is "JUST" being kicked out of school? No big deal right? Men with any guts need to go to war against this society.
I would put a large amount of money down that you've sexually assaulted multiple people in your life.
This is what makes me laugh, the "amateur psychologist" you'd be totally wrong! Just a typical sheep, scared to challenge #metoo BS. All I'm saying is that ANY ACCUSED PERSON, MALE or female should be treated equally and the word of one be considered EQUAL to the word of the other! If she says "he did it" and he says "I didn't" there should be a DEMAND for due process, EVIDENCE AND CROSS EXAMINATION facing the accused in person. Not just "expel the accused based solely on the accusation''. That's total EVIL BS.
Sexual assaults on college campuses are an epidemic. I am ok with with them over-correcting this by expelling males based on a he said/she said with no real evidence. Without this, males have free reign to rape as much as they want and as long as its not forcible rape shown by physical markings, they'd just get away with it
any pissed off girl can get any guy expelled with no evidence? i'm all about protecting the girls but that's just absurd. you have to have SOME evidence.
What evidence is a girl going to have if she says no, he keeps going and she just lets it happen. I know its easy to say she should have resisted or fought him off but really? That's a pretty difficult spot to be in.
i'm no expert here on investigations. but easy ones are: witnesses, physical evidence (did she go to the hospital), mental health of the parties, prior history, were they dating and had a history of volatility.
That is to determine if a crime was committed. Drunken college 1 night stands don't have that type of evidence, hence the low bar for Title IX penalties/expulsion.
I am not OK with it, because if they nail 100 guys and 5 are innocent, then that's too many innocent guys getting their lives screwed up. It's sad that so many people think it's ok to punish some innocent people to make sure you GET all the guilty. You can agree with "over-correcting" by destroying a few lives, I am not. It's BS.
That happens so rarely that it shouldn't be a concern, at all.
Why in the world would any woman sign up for that, knowing that she's going to have her character completely obliterated and scrutinized? Why was she wearing that? Why was she drinking? Why did she flirt with him? And on and on and on.
Insecure cheesedick dudes stuck in 1953 like Pitt79 over there are so concerned with this happening when false rape reports are like 1%, instead of being concerned about unreported assaults, which is absolutely 50x as big.
i agree. it rarely happens. i'm not aruging any of those points. i'm also saying you can't convict someone of anything with zero evidence.
Making a decision on a student’s ongoing enrollment is not, and should not, require a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. It’s not a criminal proceeding. The T9 process currently involves witness testimony and cross-examination. Many colleges often tend to place more weight on the victim’s account than the complainee - which is defensible, given that the complainant has to go through many, many, many more affirmative steps than the person against whom the complaint is made. That’s what people are upset about - colleges actually *believe* women more than the criminal justice system does, and they have a lower standard of proof to impose discipline.
Kicking a guy out of school isnt destroying someone's life. If they kick 5 innocent guys out but get 95 right, I'll take that every day because without Title IX, all 100 of those guys would face no repercussions in a he said/she said.
And they should have a lower standard of proof considering its not a legal proceedings. Also, Betsy DeVos strengthened the burden of proof in favor of males.
Pitt79 thinks Brock Turner was railroaded! Dude was just having a little fun.
Just because she might not be able to have evidence doesn't mean her word should be enough to convict. And if she made no attempt to say no or leave, then the male is justified to believe she is into it. And what if she decides she's not OK with it AFTER she wakes up the next morning? It's total BS to just automatically convict every male. I'M SUPER HAPPY that Betsy DeVos and the Trump Administration FORCED due process into these situations.
I won't take it, I'd fight to stop the process, defending those INNOCENT FIVE is more important than punishing the others. I can't believe where we've come to! Where people think it's OK to punish everyone, even the innocent, just to get the guilty. WOW, UNREAL! Your woke self isn't OK with black guys who are innocent being punished, But this is OK? I was a Bernie supporter in 2016, I still won't support Trump ever, but after Trump, I'm going to support a moderate Republican. Why? To destroy the F'ed Up WOKE NATION and all their BS.
What are these "assaults"? Two drunk teenagers have sex willinlgy, and the female wakes up and decides to get the male she willingly banged 8 hours ago kicked out of school! WOW, what a BS place WOKE NATION is.
It's not just women making "fake" reports. Two people, a male and a female could have different "perceptions" of what happened, the woman could act like she didn't want to the next day, and the male could not perceive that she didn't as it was happening. If she didn't resist or say no as it was happening, the male can't be expected to read her f'ing mind. INNOCENT.
Pitt soccer parts ways with leading scorer Edward Kizza - The Pitt News
Pitt soccer announced last week that Edward Kizza, the second highest goal scorer in program history, is no longer on the team.
pittnews.com
The problem is that its an epidemic so you have to overcorrect. "No, stop" but then letting it happen is a sexual assault. There will never be evidence so yea, her word gets him kicked out of school. Good life lesson, he can go to a new school, no biggie.
Pitt soccer parts ways with leading scorer Edward Kizza - The Pitt News
Pitt soccer announced last week that Edward Kizza, the second highest goal scorer in program history, is no longer on the team.pittnews.com
just sad all the way around. kid was on track to get drafted in the spring and screwed it all up.
You're wrong, and I will conclude evil. You think it's no big deal that a few innocent men may be expelled from school, so I'm done discussing this, and will support politics that fight to stop this BS going forward.
What you should probably do is get mad about it on a message board, make up bullshit lies about supporting liberal causes, post like nine times in a row getting progressively angry about it, and then decide that it's such a huge, omnipresent issue that it alone will be the swing issue for you to hinge your vote on.
Because that's totally what normal, reasonable people who totally don't have other issues would do.
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I do support M4A and Free College, $15 MW, Unions and Labor regulation of Wall Street, of course all applied in a Universal manner. 100%behind all that, so absolutely I am for SOME liberal causes. Unlike the 2 herds of sheep, "left" and "right" I choose my positons on issues, independently A LA CARTE
