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Nijel Pack transfers to Miami: Former Kansas State star to earn $800,000 in NIL deal with LifeWallet

Pack, a former All-Big 12 selection, will also receive a new car as part of the NIL deal
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Now, being that this deal is through the booster's legitimate company, there really wouldn't be a way to regulate something like this even though its clearly pay for play since the value a guard on a mid-tier ACC team brings to Life Wallet is far less than 800K.

What should be regulated are the booster collectives, which arent real companies
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Wild wild west

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Nijel Pack transfers to Miami: Former Kansas State star to earn $800,000 in NIL deal with LifeWallet

Pack, a former All-Big 12 selection, will also receive a new car as part of the NIL deal
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Now, being that this deal is through the booster's legitimate company, there really wouldn't be a way to regulate something like this even though its clearly pay for play since the value a guard on a mid-tier ACC team brings to Life Wallet is far less than 800K.

What should be regulated are the booster collectives, which arent real companies
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Dude. NCAA had eight years from O’Bannon through Alston through present to get it right. Not difficult. Just crickets.
 
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Wild wild west

www.cbssports.com

Nijel Pack transfers to Miami: Former Kansas State star to earn $800,000 in NIL deal with LifeWallet

Pack, a former All-Big 12 selection, will also receive a new car as part of the NIL deal
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Now, being that this deal is through the booster's legitimate company, there really wouldn't be a way to regulate something like this even though its clearly pay for play since the value a guard on a mid-tier ACC team brings to Life Wallet is far less than 800K.

What should be regulated are the booster collectives, which arent real companies
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Whom do you suggest be the one who “regulates”? I’ll wait:))
 
APanther said:
Whom do you suggest be the one who “regulates”? I’ll wait:))
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People that the NCAA hires from Sports Marketing firms. They know what the true value is for the NIL rights to these players. Or me. It would be super super easy. This Miami transfer in question brings is worth very close to $0 to Life Wallet. It is plainly pay for play. If Coca Cola or McDonald's wants to pay him 800K for a national commercial, that's fine.
 
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People that the NCAA hires from Sports Marketing firms. They know what the true value is for the NIL rights to these players. Or me. It would be super super easy. This Miami transfer in question brings is worth very close to $0 to Life Wallet. It is plainly pay for play. If Coca Cola or McDonald's wants to pay him 800K for a national commercial, that's fine.
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Pay to play is not illegal. Anything after that is irrelevant. Good grief.
 
APanther said:
Pay to play is not illegal. Anything after that is irrelevant. Good grief.
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No , but why can’t the NCAAs set a limit in the amount one can accept otherwise you can’t accept a college scholarship . Make it around 100k . Hard to whine about a free education, free room and board , free training and coaching and 100 k spending money to boot . There’s no law saying that your entitled to play college bb or Fb !

You want paid big money then you need to go play professionally . Not a difficult concept .
 
Fsgolfdr said:
No , but why can’t the NCAAs set a limit in the amount one can accept otherwise you can’t accept a college scholarship . Make it around 100k . Hard to whine about a free education, free room and board , free training and coaching and 100 k spending money to boot . There’s no law saying that your entitled to play college bb or Fb !

You want paid big money then you need to go play professionally . Not a difficult concept .
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Read Alston. No way is NCAA touching the points you raised.
 
APanther said:
Pay to play is not illegal. Anything after that is irrelevant. Good grief.
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Pay for play is against NCAA rules. Smoking weed isn't illegal either, yet its against NCAA rules.

As long as pay for play is against NCAA rules, Ruiz's deals should make those players ineligible.
 
Fsgolfdr said:
No , but why can’t the NCAAs set a limit in the amount one can accept otherwise you can’t accept a college scholarship . Make it around 100k . Hard to whine about a free education, free room and board , free training and coaching and 100 k spending money to boot . There’s no law saying that your entitled to play college bb or Fb !

You want paid big money then you need to go play professionally . Not a difficult concept .
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The issue with the latter point is the obstruction of the player from offering himself up to the NFL before the 3rd year out of school. NIL is the only (legit) way for the player to get the money he craves before then.
 
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The issue with the latter point is the obstruction of the player from offering himself up to the NFL before the 3rd year out of school. NIL is the only (legit) way for the player to get the money he craves before then.
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That’s really an NFL issue , that benefits the colleges . Surprised no one’s taken the NFL to court .

Really not many Fr or Sophomores are ready physically for the rigors of the NFL .
 
Fsgolfdr said:
There’s very few Fb players who could really be ready , but not sure how they can stop anyone over the age of 18 from applying for a job that they’d be qualified for .
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Because the NFL and the NFLPA have collectively bargained a contract that sets out the possible terms of employment. Which they have the legal right to do.
 
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Pitt Early Entry said:
It’s almost like you don’t even know what you are talking about. Well, not almost..

Players have gone to court over this rule. They have Lost. The next one will lose also. And the next one..
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How can one argue with such a great legal mind like yours !

Ever hear above Roe v Wade ?
 
Fsgolfdr said:
Ever hear above Roe v Wade ?
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You might not get this if you listen to the political commentators, but overturning the idea that companies and unions can negotiate the terms of labor via collective bargaining would have a much, much greater impact that Roe v Wade ever did.

It would literally have the potential to change every employment contract in the country.

If a change were to happen (and it's not, anytime soon) it will be because of changes in the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA.
 
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Amazing the number of posters on this board lately who don't know the difference between right and wrong. Legal has nothing to do with right and wrong. Someone cites Roe v. Wade?? There's a good example of something that is legal, at least for now, but is wrong. What's happening with college sports now is wrong, even if someone says it's legal.
 
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HailToPitt1985 said:
Amazing the number of posters on this board lately who don't know the difference between right and wrong. Legal has nothing to do with right and wrong. Someone cites Roe v. Wade?? There's a good example of something that is legal, at least for now, but is wrong. What's happening with college sports now is wrong, even if someone says it's legal.
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Not sure what your point is? Are you suggesting Alston be appealed from the SCT to the Vatican? Didn’t know they heard anti-trust cases.
 
Joe the Panther Fan said:
You might not get this if you listen to the political commentators, but overturning the idea that companies and unions can negotiate the terms of labor via collective bargaining would have a much, much greater impact that Roe v Wade ever did.

It would literally have the potential to change every employment contract in the country.

If a change were to happen (and it's not, anytime soon) it will be because of changes in the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA.
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How do you think a lot of women feel about their choice ?

In the scheme of things whether an 18 or 19 yr old kid can get paid to play a game seems trivial to Roe V Wade and if they can overturn that decision they can overturn just about anything .
 
Fsgolfdr said:
In the scheme of things whether an 18 or 19 yr old kid can get paid to play a game seems trivial to Roe V Wade and if they can overturn that decision they can overturn just about anything .
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But it's not just whether or not an 18 year old can play football. It's about the legal rights of employers and unions to collectively bargain the terms of employment. Like I said, if the Court would rule that the NFL and the NFLPA don't have the right to do that, it isn't just going to affect the NFL. It would have the potential to affect EVERY employment contract in the country.

It's as if you think that the whole world revolves around the NFL, and court rulings about the NFL don't apply to the rest of the country. And that's simply wrong.
 
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Joe the Panther Fan said:
But it's not just whether or not an 18 year old can play football. It's about the legal rights of employers and unions to collectively bargain the terms of employment. Like I said, if the Court would rule that the NFL and the NFLPA don't have the right to do that, it isn't just going to affect the NFL. It would have the potential to affect EVERY employment contract in the country.

It's as if you think that the whole world revolves around the NFL, and court rulings about the NFL don't apply to the rest of the country. And that's simply wrong.
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Your missing the point , if they can overrule Roe V Wade they can overrule not permitting qualified individuals of age from seeking employment in the field of their choice . This is legalize age discrimination that benefits the NFL and the colleges but penalizes the individual.
 
Fsgolfdr said:
Your missing the point , if they can overrule Roe V Wade they can overrule not permitting qualified individuals of age from seeking employment in the field of their choice . This is legalize age discrimination that benefits the NFL and the colleges but penalizes the individual.
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If you want to argue that it is theoretically possible that they could overturn any ruling at any time then yeah, sure, thank you Mr. Obvious.

If you want to talk about what's actually happening in the real world then let me know and we can have a discussion on that too.
 
Joe the Panther Fan said:
If you want to argue that it is theoretically possible that they could overturn any ruling at any time then yeah, sure, thank you Mr. Obvious.

If you want to talk about what's actually happening in the real world then let me know and we can have a discussion on that too.
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No one thought that Roe V Wade would be in jeopardy two weeks ago .

No one thought the Addison would leave Pitt because he could make hundreds of thousands of dollars playing college Fb elsewhere a few weeks ago .

There will be major changes coming to college athletics due to NIL issues . I wouldn’t be surprised if denying access to professional sports leagues for elite talent over the age of 18 isn’t one of them that gets addressed .
 
Fsgolfdr said:
No one thought that Roe V Wade would be in jeopardy two weeks ago .

No one thought the Addison would leave Pitt because he could make hundreds of thousands of dollars playing college Fb elsewhere a few weeks ago .

There will be major changes coming to college athletics due to NIL issues . I wouldn’t be surprised if denying access to professional sports leagues for elite talent over the age of 18 isn’t one of them that gets addressed .
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Roe v. Wade has been targeted for 50+ years. Many believe it was against the Constitution. Now that issue will revert to the States. And it will not be pretty.
 
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