Lsu looking at Matt Canada
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Well if Barnes wants to start and try to make amends for the Stallings hire, he better pony up the money to keep Canada.
Pitt is not going to outbid LSU. And even if they did, Canada would be pretty foolish to stay at Pitt for the same money or $100K more. At LSU, he's a step away from a P5 HC job.
Ed Orgeron reminds me in a lot of ways of Pat Narduzzi. Hard nosed, gruff, high energy. He'd probably give Canada total control like Narduzzi does here. That being said, leaving an ascensing Pitt program for LSU now doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. Orgeron has been a good assistant and he's well liked but he's had very little success as a HC. Yes, most of that was at Ole Miss years ago, but its still somewhat of an unknown. I know it's an upgrade from Pitt as far as programs go but I'm not sure you'll see the stability there that we have here. Hopefully they can match money.
This is the one we were all afraid of. Hopefully they find someone else. Pitt would never, and should never match what LSU is paying--see Dave Aranda'a new contract.
Curious why you think a P5 HC job is that much easier at LSU than at Pitt.. Not debating, just curius. Yeah, much higher profile program but I think a successful Coordinator could be found in our little off the beaten path market called Pittsburgh too..
The money thing, I agree.
This is the standard kiss of death post from you that has preceded the departures of our last few football and basketball coaches.
Really would love to have him for one more year.. This has me worried.. Bring in a new OC, with a new system and that whole garbage transition crap that goes along with it, isn't good for TMac and his development. We are behind the 8 ball already, this spring is big for him. YOu lose Canada, get a new guy in, new terminology, spend time getting to know each other and all that nonsense, well it pushes us even further back..
It is unlikely he leaves. LSU has many other options with SEC ties to hire. But still at 1.5 million if that is the number, that is out of Pitts range. I think he likes it here, but that kind of money doesn't come along that often.
LSU hired coach O at a discounted rate and they have the extra cash to pay out on coordinators. While Canada is not their first choice, if it comes down to LSU offering him the job he is gone. We can't compete with the type of money they will be willing to pay him as an offensive coordinator. Let's just hope they land one of their top targets before Canada becomes the top target.
Well, we're gonna find out how serious we are about football. Unless they offer a ridiculous amount, let's keep Canada here.
Agree almost 100%? Why do a leave a sliver open? I think Orgeron could have an awfully quick hook and LSU will be judged on beating Alabama and their offense will get a ton of the scrutiny. Even if it isn't fair, he could have all the blame on him.
They will be in some sort of NCAA violation under Orgeron in 3 years... book it.
Hate to break this to you, but our program and LSU's program aren't viewed through remotely the same prism and most coaches are looking to improve their standing and get a huge raise, which would likely blow us out of the water, if LSU wanted. I'd be surprised if he didn't go to LSU if offered and I'm even more surprised we have fans who don't realize that.
Going to the SEC would be enticement enough, I would think. Then a higher salary just seals the deal. It's not like Pitt is in the category of an LSU as far as the program is concerned. We're doing OK for now, but we're not one of the "big boys" yet.
We're going to eventually lose Canada, assuming he keeps his high level of performance with the offense. Pitt is not a destination job for anyone right now, especially assistants.
We're going to eventually lose Canada, assuming he keeps his high level of performance with the offense. Pitt is not a destination job for anyone right now, especially assistants.
If he leaves it is due to money... not prestige. LSU is a hell of a football school, but it is not prestigious to get beat by Alabama each year and play against those defenses. Their fan base is outstanding and fanatical, but he will also be out on his butt if they dont go 11-1 in the next 2 years. Pitt is a better job for him, and he probably knows that. BEING SAID... money! How many of us wouldnt change jobs if our salary was doubled?
If he wants to cash in for 1 year, then go ahead and go to LSU. Ed Orgeron is a terrible HEAD coach and will be fired after 1 year down there and then the new HC will be looking to make his own staff. It all depends on what Canada wants.
No, it definitely isn't. Just from an AD perspective, selling that you just hired the highest paid OC from LSU to be your new HC vs hiring Pitt's OC is an enormously different sales job to most fans and boosters. Like it or not, the rest of the country sees coaching at LSU as next level.
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I could be wrong but i don't see canada going to lsu. wolken trying to get matt a raise. i can see kiffen going to lsu.
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Pitt should absolutely match it if that's what it takes. If we don't keep him, it will cost Pitt more in the long run. Hopefully Pitt understands this.
Lemme know when you hear this from a real source. That's all I am saying. I don't doubt schools are going to come sniffin around Canada. But I am not in the crowd that flies off the handle at every internet rumor either.
We simply do. It's not even a question in my mind.
Think about how many more thousands of people will buy tickets per game if we have a great offense for years.
Consider that with even an average defense Pitt would be in the playoffs right now. I'm expecting Narduzzi to make this defense pretty good. It has already started to get better even without the talent there. Pitt has an opportunity to actually be a top 10 program within a few years because of these coaches. That hasn't been a possibly at Pitt in over 30 years and we can't afford not to keep that intact for as long as possible.
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Our new administration will probably step up soon and do a new deal with Canada. But in no way shape or form is the administration going to give Canada the kind of deal that would keep him here in the face of a million dollar plus kind of deal an SEC team like LSU would be able to wave at him if they wanted him.
I agree with that, which is why I said that they shouldn't try to top a crazy deal from LSU. I think the most they'd be willing to do is around $900,000, maybe more maybe less. It'd be a nice raise without going to overboard.
I don't disagree with you, but unfortunately, more often than not, we have seen that where there's smoke, there's at least some fire. I have to believe Canada's on the list of every program looking for a OC right now, so I'm sure LSU is interested. We can only hope there's someone else they're more interested in. They just made their DC the highest paid assistant in college football, so they aren't f'in around, they will get their first choice.
It would seem to me with the departure of Peterman and likely Connor, as well as the development of Weah this offense may take on a different look next year.
Dont want Canada to go, but if he stays in many ways he is starting over. A new OC will likely have several years to work with McVittie...assuming Brown or Zaire dont show up here.
As for Orgeron......I think its unfair to think he wont do well. Its his dream job....he has leanred lessons the hard way (Ole Miss).....and might just be the guy that can dethrone Saban and Bama....
Maybe.
Dont want Canada to go, but if he stays in many ways he is starting over. A new OC will likely have several years to work with McVittie...assuming Brown or Zaire dont show up here.
As for Orgeron......I think its unfair to think he wont do well. Its his dream job....he has leanred lessons the hard way (Ole Miss).....and might just be the guy that can dethrone Saban and Bama....
Maybe.
Every time there is any kind of coach opening anywhere, all the media wonks feel they have to justify their existence so they throw out a list of candidates they think will be reasonable. Sometimes the eventual hire is on that list and sometimes not. But that preliminary list always goes out in every case.
In Canada's case I am going to assume that interest by another program is there, even if it isn't. That's how great of a job he has done here.
1. Why would Kiffin leave Bama for another OC job.
2. If he did leave Bama, why wouldn't Canada be high on Saban's list.
Steel said, Canada already makes Top 10 money in the country for an OC and we didnt even negotiate yet.
steel post a link that shows he is in top 10 money wise.
Canada previously worked with N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren at Northern Illinois. Canada received a new three-year contract last January after Tennessee had interest in hiring him for the same position. Canada’s base salary was $560,000 for the 2015 season and was scheduled to increase to $615,000 on July 1.
steel post a link that shows he is in top 10 money wise.
Canada previously worked with N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren at Northern Illinois. Canada received a new three-year contract last January after Tennessee had interest in hiring him for the same position. Canada’s base salary was $560,000 for the 2015 season and was scheduled to increase to $615,000 on July 1.
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Kiffin is being pushed out at Alabama. Saban doesn't want to work with him anymore.
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