Lunardi has PItt ‘off’ the bubble

[Pittnerski]

Would it be better to get the double bye and lose thur or something like say the 5th seed and have a potential land mine game on Wednesday?

 

[HailToPitt1985]

So to make it, they need to go 14-6, get the double bye and also beat the 5, 6, or 7 seed (who will also be NCAAT teams) in the ACC Quarterfinal? Otherwise, its NIT?

Every year is different. But in the past, you'd have to win 22 games minimum to get in the NCAAT, unless you win your conference tournament. The 22 wins isn't hard and fast, as it varies every year it seems depending on the field. Sure, it's possible Pitt gets in with 13-7. But to be relatively safe, 14-6 with an ACCT win gets them in, IMHO.

 

[PittPharm2002]

“Sorry I was wrong”

It’s so hard for some to say that .
I say it all the time
It’s easy

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Every year is different. But in the past, you'd have to win 22 games minimum to get in the NCAAT, unless you win your conference tournament. The 22 wins isn't hard and fast, as it varies every year it seems depending on the field. Sure, it's possible Pitt gets in with 13-7. But to be relatively safe, 14-6 with an ACCT win gets them in, IMHO.

So, right now if you had to bet $1000 on Pitt making the NCAAT with a 14-6 record, double bye and quarterfinal loss to UNC, you would bet they dont make it?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Would it be better to get the double bye and lose thur or something like say the 5th seed and have a potential land mine game on Wednesday?

Absolutely. Get the double bye. For one, I think its going to take 14-6 to get that. But even at 13-7, I'd much rather take the double bye and be a 5 or 6 point underdog to UNC to Duke in Gam or someone like that in Game 1 than get the 5 seed and be a 5 point favorite over FSU and potentially lose.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

But in the past, you'd have to win 22 games minimum to get in the NCAAT, unless you win your conference tournament.

That is so far from the truth.

Teams that didn't win at least 22 games and still got at large bids:

2022: Alabama, Rutgers, Texas, Marquette, Indiana, Ohio State, Seton Hall, TCU, Michigan and Iowa State
Skip the covid affected years
2019: Louisville, Minnesota, Syracuse, Baylor, Florida, St, John's, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Seton Hall and Ohio State
2018: Creighton, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Florida State, Providence, Florida, Virginia Tech, Alabama, Butler, UCLA, TCU, Seton Hall, NC State, Oklahoma, Arizona State and Syracuse (17 teams in one year alone!)
2017: Marquette, Providence, Vanderbilt, Xavier, Miami, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, Seton Hall, Kansas State and Wake Forest
2016: Iowa, Temple, Vanderbilt, Texas, Oregon State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, USC, Pitt (hey, we know them!), Tulsa, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Butler, Syracuse

I really don't think I need to go on, do I? It has been a long time, a really, really long time, since a team needed to win at least 22 games to get in as an at large. Maybe way back when they didn't take as many at large teams. But also, maybe never.