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Worst part is - Mario screwed that up at Oregon as well losing to Stanford with the game in hand
He’s a terrible coach
Suppose Cristobal said post game…I had nothing to do with not taking a knee….that’s the OC’s call and, as HC, I don’t mess with the offense. Right? Wrong? Personally, I don’t believe that sort of division of labor flies on a coaching staff. Sometimes when circumstances, which are somewhat familiar or strike a relatable chord and happen to others, it gives new perspective.
I just read the ESPN article and he kinda did throw his OC under the bus by saying that he should have jumped in at that moment.
"Not going to make an excuse for it, say we should've done this or that," Miami coach Mario Cristobal said of not taking a knee. "That's it. We should've done it. Sometimes you get carried away with just, finish the game and run it. I should've stepped in and said, 'Hey, just take a knee.'"
Cristobal does give me some Narduzzi vibes in that way.
When a head coach who makes $8mil a year says “I don’t make decisions” during games - it should make you wonder what the hell their job actually is .
Including our overpaid dope HC
I mean the hand off is inexcusable, but how do you also let a receiver get behind you in a prevent defense for a 50 yard td!
Miami was so concerned about GT getting in range for a winning FG that they gave up the HR. With the time left on the clock there wasn’t likely enough time for another play of any type.
Congratulations to GT. Glad to see Miami and the programs like it lose, especially in humiliating fashion. Wish I’d seen it happen (I literally watched no college football at all yesterday since our program is dead). It isn’t much in a season like this, but it is something.
Going back to Whipple (all apologies) Duzz was asked about QB sideline visits and said the OC has control even decisions for going on 4th down. Head coaches are seen on tv screaming into headsets for a reason. They leave a lot of in-game stuff to their coordinators.
Of course.
Those that actually don’t, which would be moronic, are breathtakingly awful coaches.
But ultimately the great majority absolutely do. After all these are Type AAAAAAA humans and if anything they get TOO involved. They certainly aren’t going to be oblivious to the penultimate game settling decisions. Anyone who actually believes that are mentally challenged and shouldn’t breed.
In a way though one can forgive such fools for thinking it though, based on a lot of weasel statements (like the above and lately the imbecilic ones that Duz and Tomlin make) that shamefully seek to absolve themselves from awful decisions. Own it, man. You make millions and millions and millions of dollars. And nobody (unretarded at least) believes your drivel anyway. “I spend every moment with the defense, derrrrrrrrp … the QB is Cignettis decision, derrrrrrrp … I didn’t notice the fourth and 1 call, derrrrrrp”. Preposterous. You happily glorify in the wins; the losses are equally on you.
The entire last minute of that game was a comedy ..... I thought I was watching a SNL skit ...... first, dumbo Cristobal (and his OC) doesn't have his team go into Victory Formation and they lose the ball on a fumble ..... then the Miami defensive back let's the GT WR get behind him for a winning TD and the WR who is 5 yards ahead of the DB as he approaches the goal line, inexplicably slides into the end zone barely making it across the goal line, if he slides a foot earlier he is short of the goal line and no TD ...... then GT is confused about whether to kick the extra point or not to take a 4 point lead with 2 seconds to play ..... were they worried that if the extra point was blocked and run all the way back that Miami would get 6 points instead of 2 ?????? ....... GT takes a delay of game penalty on the extra point and then runs the ball not making any extra points so they are up by 3 ........ then GT decides to squib kick (which was fine) but kicks it out of bounds at the Miami 38 yard line which potentially puts Miami a pass interference penalty away being in Hail Mary range or 2 penalties from being in FG range to tie the game since GT didn't kick the extra point ..... finally the game mercifully ends with a GT victory ..... those gym teacher coaches some how made Duzz look like a calculus professor.
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Right. But who do you think they’re screaming at, and what do you think they’re screaming about, on those headsets? Why do they keep looking at their play sheets while they’re doing that? When they’re standing in the middle of the huddle talking in animated fashion during timeouts, what are they doing?
This just in-since football was invented, and at every level, the head coach makes the in-game decisions in every important game or strategic situation that arises. You’d better believe the OC asked Cristobal what he wanted to do with the ball in that last minute or two. That is NOT the OC’s call to make. Not at Miami, not anywhere.
This idea that the HC gets paid millions to stand there and watch and manage while his coordinators do everything during games is total nonsense.
The last few years of the Bobby Bowden era was probably one of the few times this was true.
Alabama was even dumber than that. They could have run the clock out by taking a knee on consecutive plays. On first down, they PASSED. It was incomplete and stopped the clock. They managed to barely run the clock out by running time consuming plays with the last play pass ruled incomplete when 0:00 was on the clock.
Saban is a bonehead and should be fired, too. At least some people here would believe that if they were consistent.
Uh. My post said they leave “a lot” of in-game decisions to coordinators. Not “all”. The post was in response to what Duzz actually said into a microphone at a presser. Call him a liar. I not once intimated that I believed any of that. Saban once actually spoke into a microphone and said Kiffin ran the show on his side of the ball. Fisher dropped all clipboards during games and will tell you the same about Bobby P. Whether you believe them or not. A coordinator is calling plays at breakneck speed and in advance of future plays. They’re not asking for permission every step of the way. Maybe it is moronic but some great coaches do trust their staffs. That’s what staff meetings are for. What do we do in this or that situation while the HC is screaming at a ref or a player. Entrusted coordinators of good HC’s are your next head coaches.
Theee is not one game critical strategic decision that a HC leaves to a coordinator. That’s a fact.
Play calling based on the head coach’s vision for a game plan? Sure that’s a coordinator. Routine in-game player rotations as discussed and approved by the head coach in meetings? Definitely a coordinator.
Whether to go for it or kick on 4th down, what kind of play to run in a critical situation, whether to take a knee versus running plays to run out the end of the game clock, which QB to send in for one meaningless play when you have a choice between blowing a true freshman’s redshirt versus putting in a redshirt freshman, use of time outs and clock management, not a chance that anyone other than the HC gets to make any of those decisions.
Its hard to even imagine how stupid some of these coaches are. I mean like 880 on SAT's stupid. I read the first few of these posts, not knowing what happened then turned the game on (long after it was over) thinking this cannot possibly be true. I figured maybe Miami ran the ball with like 1:40 left instead of kneeling. That could be somewhat excusable as it takes a 900 minimum SAT score to know you have to kneel there. But they snapped the ball with 34 seconds left. Literally the last play of the game. How can you be that stupid? BTW, the Miami player was down but not enough evidence to overturn. Had they ruled him down, the replay wouldn't have overturned it either.
And how do you possibly give up a 3 play 70 yard drive with 25 seconds left and no TO's? Beyond that, I thought GT's last playcall was dumb. They didnt need much more yardage for FG range. That was going to be their last play either way. They were lucky Miami's DB was so worried about a FG that he conceded the TD.
And the press conference, that was similar to Rich Rod's. He looked like he lost a loved one. He shouldn't have blamed ball security or threw the OC under the bus. I mean, yea, the OC is just as stupid but every decision stops with the HC. As we as fans and the announcers are smart enough to wonder why they arent kneeling it in real time, how could Cristobal not be? He should have come out and apologized to the fans. That loss was on a HC as there ever was. And that was the 2nd time this happened to him? What a complete idiot. If he keeps this up, he might be the POTUS.
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After last night, I think the Miami coaching staff needs to incorporate Artificial Intelligence into their program !!!!!!
I just don't understand how there's so many guys on the sideline with headsets on and no one spoke up and said it's time to take a knee. That's just crazy. The game is over and someone needed to stop the OC from calling another run play.
This is why it's good to not have a bunch of yes men in your organization. They will see you driving over a cliff and say absolutely nothing.
This is why it's good to not have a bunch of yes men in your organization. They will see you driving over a cliff and say absolutely nothing.
Every year I say it, each college and NFL team needs to employ a clock management specialist. Coaches are not smart enough. For example, at the end of the game, if you are on defense and losing and the other team gets a 1st down, you DONT call a timeout because the clock doesn't start until they reset the chains. You can save more time by calling a TO after 1st Down and not before it.
I mean it worked, but what a stupid play call. How the eff do you not run a quick out to the sideline there? GT's coach, in hearing him speak, also sounds like a WPIAL gym teacher coach. How do these guys get jobs?
And with that embarrassing loss, Miami picks up a top 50 recruit.
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Miami gets commitment from ESPN 300 WR Carr
Miami got a commitment from ESPN 300 receiver Ny Carr on Sunday, giving the Hurricanes nine top-300 recruits in the 2024 class.
And with that embarrassing loss, Miami picks up a top 50 recruit.
Miami gets commitment from ESPN 300 WR Carr
Miami got a commitment from ESPN 300 receiver Ny Carr on Sunday, giving the Hurricanes nine top-300 recruits in the 2024 class.
I was going to post that. A top WR was at the game and was so impressed with the Canes, he picked them the next day. Meanwhile, we win the ACC and cant get anyone to play for us.
South Beach vs South Oakland
A lot more NIL $$$
The kid could see from that game that Miami is just a receiver away from greatness 😎And with that embarrassing loss, Miami picks up a top 50 recruit.
Miami gets commitment from ESPN 300 WR Carr
Miami got a commitment from ESPN 300 receiver Ny Carr on Sunday, giving the Hurricanes nine top-300 recruits in the 2024 class.
Any chance Van Dyke is our starting quarterback next season? I'm not ruling it out. Seems like they're kind of over him.
Well, they allegedly recruit so well. Although the recruit ranking services might have concerns about anyone who was on the sideline for Saturday's performance and decides to commit on the spot to that.
I thought Cristobal was a good hire and they are certainly recruiting well but you simply cannot be a good coach and have that big of a gaff. I know its just one play but its happened to him twice now. The guy simply cannot be very smart. That said, he is going to recruit well enough along with that booster's NIL money that I do think he'll become Jimmy Franklin and beat all the teams he has more talent that. PSU wins in spite of him and I think Miami will too.
Miami definitely is similar in bringing in the star guys and then not achieving. But Miami manages to lose SO many more bad games than PSU and others of that ilk. Not only that but a bad loss tends to demolish them and they spiral out of control. PSU can lose to an Illinois on occasion but they get back on the rails generally (unless they face Michigan or Ohio State right after that). They usually win their bowl too.
So PSU will still usually end up a a solid 8th, holding it to 2 or maybe 3 losses and enjoying the Big Ten Bump by pollsters … whereas Miami will careen to 6 losses and should be totally out of the rankings, except that a lot of their fan boy media pals still vote for them so they usually hang at 25th or so. Then right back in the preseason top top ten like that never happened,
I think Miami, like PSU will stop losing those games eventually. The recruiting will be too good. The difference between Miami and PSU is that Franklin has always recruited strong across the board. Whereas Miami may have great recruits but like no offensive linemen or no WRs. Or something like that. They will fix that eventually. And Cristobal will still blow some games like Franklin but they'll be 9-3 or 10-2
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