Millers price tag is getting lower
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I think this game seals his fate. I would not be shocked to see Musselman to AZ and Miller to Pitt.
Tough to watch this and not come away thinking that you would probably prefer Oats all things being equal.
Right, if he can't beat buffalo. Why would Pitt want him? Stallings could have done what Sean is doing tonight
If Oats was from Pittsburgh, then all the Yinzers would want him over Miller. The fact that Miller attended Pitt sways a lot of opinions.
.755 career win percentage at Xavier and Arizona. March struggles aside, he’s a top 10 coach and recruiter and I doubt there’s much debate about that. I don’t think there’s anything to this chatter about him coming to Pitt, but Pitt guy or not, he would resurrect this dead program immediately.
I’ll take the guy who had avg nearly 29 wins per season coaching in a major conference (regardless of lack of Final 4’s) any day. Oats may end very good but let’s not go crazy comparing to miller. Upsets happen every year by mid-majors. It doesn’t make every winning coach the next Brad Stevens or Mark Few.
Yeah, and we would never want Coach K cause in 2007 he lost to Virginia Commonwealth in the first round.
Not even a top ten recruiter...he is a top ten cheater though.
If he’s that much better than Sean Miller why would he even consider Pitt?
I’d think he could have his choice of major jobs if this is true.
I always knew there would be a day Miller begged Pitt to come home. Between a guy like Miller who will likely be out of a job, and guys like oats, Hurley, etc. who should take the opportunity to move up, there should be plenty of good candidates for Pitt to choose from.
-There is a bigger problem at hand. All his recruits decommited from him. That is a major red flag. It could be Arizona, or, it could be him. Or both. He has Zero recruits right now. And Arizona has open playing time at all 5 positions. There's Miller looking at Arizona right now. And if he cant recruit there, he might not be able to even recruit here, either.
-There is a bigger problem at hand. All his recruits decommited from him. That is a major red flag. It could be Arizona, or, it could be him. Or both. He has Zero recruits right now. And Arizona has open playing time at all 5 positions. There's Miller looking at Arizona right now. And if he cant recruit there, he might not be able to even recruit here, either.
You know about the ESPN report?
There is a huge cloud of uncertainty there. The situation is toxic.
With a clean slate, if he can resume buying players at Pitt, then he can recruit at Pitt.
Hell no one even mentions Kermit Davis’ transgressions any more. Kelvin Sampson seems on the path to rehabilitation as well. Even Tim Floyd got another gig.
Ben Howland was crooked as can be at UCLA, no one has brought it up for years.
I think Miller will be fine even if booted from Arizona, other than Dave Bliss they all eventually seem to get a pass.
Trier and Alkins were very highly rated recruits.
Alkins mother however supposedly went from living in the slums to a nice 2k a month rent rental as soon as Alkins committed though. Lol
That said, Arizona had top tier guards. They just did nothing with them. And they didn't feed one of the best players in all of college basketball enough. That is coaching.
They had 2 poy candidates in Ayton and Trier.
Trier Ayton and Alkins are all going to the draft now too.
That said, you guys are not getting Miller. He is either staying at Arizona or he is getting show caused from this investigation stuff. You guys need to stop fixating on Miller. It is not going to happen.
Miller has the potential #1 pick in the draft. He gets no defense.
Just just usual March choke job.
Makes you wonder why Dixon was not ok then for many. So many people saying they will take March failures for Nov-Feb success. We had that, and people hated it. I doubt Miller can recruit here anyway, and he isn't the coach Dixon was. This has bad hire written all over it. Plus he brings the FBI sniffing around.
K has a bushel of final fours and national championships.
Yeah, and we would never want Coach K cause in 2007 he lost to Virginia Commonwealth in the first round.
While I think Pitt could do a lot worse than Sean Miller, I'm not campaigning for his being hired because I don't know all the facts around the FBI investigation. Wiih that out of the way, I wouldn't judge Sean on the basis of this game. No doubt there has been a cloud over Arizona's program for weeks and the team's performance reflected that.
Can we judge the rest of his career of flaming out short of the final four?
If Sampson is rehabbed anybody can do it.
Jmo Sean is out, and will sit in front of a camera and wait for time to be his ally until landing somewhere in a couple. Assuming he’s not completely rarilroaded by the Feds.
Looking at Pitts history they fire coaches left and right but don’t make a splash hires.
Wouldn’t expect it now unless this AD is completely different and can change things.
Just a guess it’s either Hurley or someone flying low on the radar now.
Sampson waited out his show cause in the nba.
We don’t have the luxury of hiring a coach likely to be sanctioned at best
It's so funny that everyone is looking at 1 game for him. On the one hand I really hope there was a way Pitt could get him as the new coach. On the other I prefer someone else. If he wouldn't get Pitt to the final 4 every year his tenure would be a failure.
Only he knows the truth about paying the players etc, but I remember the recruiting he was doing as an assistant years ago. Were those players paid?
I just know that if he came to Pitt, he would bring in talented players that would never have come to Pitt.
Let's also remember how many failures coaches like Boeheim had before they broke thru and give the guy a couple more years before he is anointed a failure
Only he knows the truth about paying the players etc, but I remember the recruiting he was doing as an assistant years ago. Were those players paid?
I just know that if he came to Pitt, he would bring in talented players that would never have come to Pitt.
Let's also remember how many failures coaches like Boeheim had before they broke thru and give the guy a couple more years before he is anointed a failure
Miller is a good coach. I’m not sure he’s good enough to take a chance on hiring him at the present time with the cloud hanging over his head.
If I’m Lyke I think Hurely and Oats are probably safer and better options at this point
I like the vibe I’m hearing about the search. At least the names we are hearing make some sense and generate some reason for optimism. Heck even milller would be an above par hire for Pitt
I’m not getting my hopes up though. We as Pitt fans have been through this before only to be haymakered and Stallinged
If I’m Lyke I think Hurely and Oats are probably safer and better options at this point
I like the vibe I’m hearing about the search. At least the names we are hearing make some sense and generate some reason for optimism. Heck even milller would be an above par hire for Pitt
I’m not getting my hopes up though. We as Pitt fans have been through this before only to be haymakered and Stallinged
Perhaps that failure will always be a negative to his record as a coach. He hasn't distinguished himself in the tournament...there's no arguing that. Given the state of Pitt BB though, if my choices were Miller, Becker, Jent, Sanchez, Oates or the Bonnies' coach and If I could reach the reasonable conclusion that the law wasn't going to come down on Miller like a ton of bricks, I'd hire Miller. Given Miller's legal situation, my top choices were Crean, Maata and Hurley. Pitt doesn't need to hire another flyer where the reaction of the fans is one big yawn. The one big advantage Miller has over Dixon is that the guy can recruit and I'm not going to conclude like some that the only reason he got players at Xavier and Arizona is because he cheated...if you want to, be my guest. Hell, when Pitt played Xavier in the tourney, Pitt had a vastly superior team talent wise compared to Xavier and but for some Levance Fields heroics, Xavier beats Pitt in that game. The point being that Miller has won a lot of games, including games in the tournament, and he can coach AND recruit.
Took boeheim, what 11 seasons to make a final four?
Sean’s been a head coach for 14 seasons now
It’s not about 1 game
Anybody hiring Sampson might as well pick up the phone and call the Bozos at the NCAA for advise as to how long self-probation sb.
A preemptive post hire action.
Pitt is very much not likely getting involved w this coming Miller circus......
I prefer Oats to Miller, no doubt. Oats knows how to coach and his emphasis on defense gives him the edge over many coaches out there. He shut down UA all night then blew them away. It blew my bracket apart, but I don't care. That was good to watch. Miller wasn't my choice before this game and is down the list, way down the list, to the bottom now.
Don't forget his loss to Lehigh.
Yeah, and we would never want Coach K cause in 2007 he lost to Virginia Commonwealth in the first round.
Yeah, and we would never want Coach K cause in 2007 he lost to Virginia Commonwealth in the first round
In the post game Oats essentially said that and also said that he didn't really expect Arizona to be prepared for them at all, and they weren't.
