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Milwaukee Bucks Boycotting

Boston and Toronto players have discussed boycotting game one of their series as well
 
I'd be shocked if all teams remaining scheduled to play today and tomorrow don't boycott. They'll start up again Friday.
 
^^^^You guys gonna be done with Pitt and college hoops when multiple teams inevitably boycott during a future NCAA tournament?

There's no doubt in my mind Pitt's current HC supports this move. He'll likely do it openly on Twitter too... So, no Pitt with him at helm?
 
Go woke go broke. I don’t like NBA like college b-ball but would have tuned in because I was itching for sports. But I refuse to support all the false political messaging. BLM is fraudulent and based entirely on false narratives.
 
Go woke go broke. I don’t like NBA like college b-ball but would have tuned in because I was itching for sports. But I refuse to support all the false political messaging. BLM is fraudulent and based entirely on false narratives.
Watch it ski11 just scolded me.
 
Does nothing. boycott the rest of the season. try donating your salary for one game to a food bank, or better yet, sponsor a lunch for police and its black neighborhood, that you attend , to help improve racial relations. then i'll be impressed. time to get out of your protected bubble and make a difference.
 
Does nothing. boycott the rest of the season. try donating your salary for one game to a food bank, or better yet, sponsor a lunch for police and its black neighborhood, that you attend , to help improve racial relations. then i'll be impressed. time to get out of your protected bubble and make a difference.

You should try doing a little research before you chide NBA players for “doing nothing.”
 
Can only assume these folks don't check Jeff Capel's Twitter feed often or, well, ever. Or, they'd have stopped supporting Pitt hoops. Maybe they already did stop?

I watch sports, teams and players for enjoyment and to marvel at the skills to which they have. I do not give one once of care what they think politically, socially or personally. I have found the further you get away from Twitter, mainstream news and SportsCenter the better you can enjoy the sport instead of the platforms sports has become. This isn’t to say I don’t care about social injustice, I live my life treating all the way I want to be treated, I just don’t care what some overpaid athlete thinks.
 
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I watch sports, teams and players for enjoyment and to marvel at the skills to which they have. I do not give one once of care what they think politically, socially or personally. I have found the further you get away from Twitter, mainstream news and SportsCenter the better you can enjoy the sport instead of the platforms sports has become. This isn’t to say I don’t care about social injustice, I live my life treating all the way I want to be treated, I just don’t care what some overpaid athlete thinks.
I understand this. I get that. But, beyond the NBA, this is very, very much going to bleed into the MLB and NFL.

And, without doubt, men's and women's college basketball for this specific board's sake.

And, expect it, if and when they play, in college football.

I don't think this going to be avoidable by those that want to avoid it unless they simply choose to not watch these sports.

That's kind of what I was getting at.
 
I understand this. I get that. But, beyond the NBA, this is very, very much going to bleed into the MLB and NFL.

And, without doubt, men's and women's college basketball for this specific board's sake.

And, expect it, if and when they play, in college football.

I don't think this going to be avoidable by those that want to avoid it unless they simply choose to not watch these sports.

That's kind of what I was getting at.

The athletes protesting should hope that doesn’t happen or that revenue stream could dry up.. Sometimes there are unintended consequences even for what may be a good cause.
 
The athletes protesting should hope that doesn’t happen or that revenue stream could dry up.. Sometimes there are unintended consequences even for what may be a good cause.
I imagine most of them are well aware of this. It can become very complicated. I agree.
 
Trying to figure out how believing police shouldn’t end someone’s life (or attempt to) during a stop is going woke. I lean more conservative but this isn’t a partisan issue unless you make it one. Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is. PERIOD.

No what aboutism’s or he had a knife. If you can calmly let a white guy with a gun walk by you and arrest him later you can sure as hell do the same with a black guy.
 
Trying to figure out how believing police shouldn’t end someone’s life (or attempt to) during a stop is going woke. I lean more conservative but this isn’t a partisan issue unless you make it one. Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is. PERIOD.

No what aboutism’s or he had a knife. If you can calmly let a white guy with a gun walk by you and arrest him later you can sure as hell do the same with a black guy.
I've been loathe to jump into this fray, but when you say " Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is" you are putting something out there that makes it seem like there is an epidemic of this happening. And that just is not borne out by the facts. Police killing of blacks is extremely rare; unarmed ones doing nothing wrong (like resisting), even more so.

If you look at George Floyd, the Kenosha incident and the other recent shooting of the guy at the Wendy's in Atlanta, they all had one thing in common: resisting arrest. If you listen to the cops' orders, then you won't be putting your life at risk.

And to be clear, I am willing to listen to other POV's on this. If you can show me something and prove your case, then I will let the facts guide my conclusion. My inclination is to believe there are problems - I doubt policing is perfect - but those problems are more likely to fall under the heading of "harassment"; not brutality.
 
I've been loathe to jump into this fray, but when you say " Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is" you are putting something out there that makes it seem like there is an epidemic of this happening. And that just is not borne out by the facts. Police killing of blacks is extremely rare; unarmed ones doing nothing wrong (like resisting), even more so.

If you look at George Floyd, the Kenosha incident and the other recent shooting of the guy at the Wendy's in Atlanta, they all had one thing in common: resisting arrest. If you listen to the cops' orders, then you won't be putting your life at risk.

And to be clear, I am willing to listen to other POV's on this. If you can show me something and prove your case, then I will let the facts guide my conclusion. My inclination is to believe there are problems - I doubt policing is perfect - but those problems are more likely to fall under the heading of "harassment"; not brutality.

I keep seeing people say “if they hadn’t resisted arrest”. And that’s true. Had they cooperated they’re still among us. But for Christ’s sake not being compliant doesn’t mean that person should be shot. Or have a knee on your neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Like everything else people are playing the extremes. There’s a middle ground.

Imminent danger to life and limb for an officer or the public? Do what needs to be done including shooting. But that shouldn’t be the first option otherwise.
 
I've been loathe to jump into this fray, but when you say " Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is" you are putting something out there that makes it seem like there is an epidemic of this happening. And that just is not borne out by the facts. Police killing of blacks is extremely rare; unarmed ones doing nothing wrong (like resisting), even more so.

If you look at George Floyd, the Kenosha incident and the other recent shooting of the guy at the Wendy's in Atlanta, they all had one thing in common: resisting arrest. If you listen to the cops' orders, then you won't be putting your life at risk.

And to be clear, I am willing to listen to other POV's on this. If you can show me something and prove your case, then I will let the facts guide my conclusion. My inclination is to believe there are problems - I doubt policing is perfect - but those problems are more likely to fall under the heading of "harassment"; not brutality.
Listen, I get it. They kill more unarmed whites. The total number is not as high. But the rate at which they do these things AND get away with it are higher if you’re a minority.

I’m not saying don’t arrest the guy. I’m not saying let him go into that house he was gonna go into. But police officers also don’t have to act like they’re on 21 jump street all the time.

it’s not the same thing but to me it’s pretty similar. A few years back, the Adams police chased a guy down Route 8 past their jurisdiction and eventually subdued the guy who was being chased for a robbery of some sort I believe. The way he was subdued was they led him on a high speed chase and he ran into a 17 year old driver. The kid lost his leg. All because the Adams police couldn’t find another way to arrest this guy?

This ain’t grand theft auto or Let’s be cops. And I’m not singling out white cops black cops or any precinct. It’s an issue that clearly they need to be trained further in how to de-escalate situations across the board.
 
I’m also not coming at you @Protes or claim to have an answer. But we can’t keep having this discussion over and over and not think something needs to be changed. Until something is people will continue to protest and riot and ruin innocent lives to try and prove their point. We’ve been having this discussion way too long... just be a freaking decent human ppl
 
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I’m also not coming at you @Protes or claim to have an answer. But we can’t keep having this discussion over and over and not think something needs to be changed. Until something is people will continue to protest and riot and ruin innocent lives to try and prove their point. We’ve been having this discussion way too long... just be a freaking decent human ppl

I think you raise reasonable points. And you hit the nail on the head when you point out that they let a 17 year old white kid just stroll by with a real gun and shoot the 12 year old black kid with a toy.
 
I keep seeing people say “if they hadn’t resisted arrest”. And that’s true. Had they cooperated they’re still among us. But for Christ’s sake not being compliant doesn’t mean that person should be shot. Or have a knee on your neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Like everything else people are playing the extremes. There’s a middle ground.

Imminent danger to life and limb for an officer or the public? Do what needs to be done including shooting. But that shouldn’t be the first option otherwise.
There was pretty much widespread agreement when that George Floyd video came out from all corners that it was wrong. Yours truly felt the same - and I still think it looks bad for that officer. But I also watched the cop-cam video of that incident that emerged recently. The cops did everything possible prior to the infamous knee-on-neck to get him in the squad car. It looked entirely routine and professional to me to that point. But Floyd resisted the whole way down the line. Also, from what I have seen/heard, Minneapolis may have had a policy allowing that use of force to subdue someone. So, all I am saying now is it isn't 100% cut and dry. I could see a scenario where these cops get off, especially if they are over-charged.

Let's look at the Kenosha incident. Again; resisting. There are reports he had a knife and they tried to taser him. The cops had no idea what he was going into the car to grab. Did it have to come to 7 shots? I would tend to agree that it looks pretty bad. But we shouldn't we let all the facts come out before fanning the flames? I would think that's what most reasonable people would want.

Now, let's look at the other recent shooting in Atlanta by the Wendy's. Also, resisting. Perp was fighting with the cops. Steals a taser and starts firing at the cop. Cop has no idea if it's a taser or a gun. I believe that cop was justified in his actions.

The above outlines the problems with these incidents. Each circumstance differs and need to be investigated to fully understand them. Right now the immediate, knee-jerk response is "racism." Well, we don't know what is in a cop's heart or mind. We don't have a clue what it's like to be involved in these incidents and what we will do in the heat of the moment. The reality is the vast majority of cops are good cops -- and all they want to do is get home safely to their families at the end of their shift. They're not out there trying to go after black people.
 
Listen, I get it. They kill more unarmed whites. The total number is not as high. But the rate at which they do these things AND get away with it are higher if you’re a minority.

I’m not saying don’t arrest the guy. I’m not saying let him go into that house he was gonna go into. But police officers also don’t have to act like they’re on 21 jump street all the time.

it’s not the same thing but to me it’s pretty similar. A few years back, the Adams police chased a guy down Route 8 past their jurisdiction and eventually subdued the guy who was being chased for a robbery of some sort I believe. The way he was subdued was they led him on a high speed chase and he ran into a 17 year old driver. The kid lost his leg. All because the Adams police couldn’t find another way to arrest this guy?

This ain’t grand theft auto or Let’s be cops. And I’m not singling out white cops black cops or any precinct. It’s an issue that clearly they need to be trained further in how to de-escalate situations across the board.
I'm with you on this. In this day and age you would think they would have a better way to nab someone than engaging in a high-speed chase. You would think they could find a way to zap the car's electrical system or something.

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You should try doing a little research before you chide NBA players for “doing nothing.”

I never said that they were doing nothing. i said the boycott accomplishes nothing. We have some serious issues here. Greatly appreciate those players involved and taking positive ACTION.
 
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I am as interested in the political opinions of athletes as I am in the basketball skills of Joe Biden. There are very smart, informed people on all sides of these issues. Listen to them instead.

We've got LeBron defending human rights violations in China and DeSean Jackson talking about Jewish world domination. Come on.
 
Trying to figure out how believing police shouldn’t end someone’s life (or attempt to) during a stop is going woke. I lean more conservative but this isn’t a partisan issue unless you make it one. Police shouldn’t be killing ANY people and certainly not black people at the rate there is. PERIOD.

No what aboutism’s or he had a knife. If you can calmly let a white guy with a gun walk by you and arrest him later you can sure as hell do the same with a black guy.
For the umpteenth time over the last 4 years unarmed white people get fatally shot more often than black people by a significant amount by cops, and black people commit 50% of violent crime. Washington post has a link. Media media media
 
For the umpteenth time over the last 4 years unarmed white people get fatally shot more often than black people by a significant amount by cops, and black people commit 50% of violent crime. Washington post has a link. Media media media
For the umpteenth time black people make up roughly 14 percent of the population and are MORE LIKELY than 60 percent of white people to get shot in an encounter with the police. 17 is a higher number than 9, you are correct (the amount of whites vs blacks killed without a weapon by police last year). But you understand percentages enough to quote the violent crime percentage but not to understand a ratio?

And do you think that our systemically racist justice system has anything to do with whether or not something is classified as a violent crime?and the sentences for violent crimes being a lot easier on white people than black people? Cough Brock turner?

let’s say you were correct and that you’re as likely to be shot by police unarmed as a white guy as a black guy (you’re not), why aren’t you pissed off? I’ve never felt scared when pulled over by the cops. Not one damn time. Yet my black nephews were in a single car accident last year and scared to death to call the cops because they were out late last year. Do you find these things to be ok?
 
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