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Been watching the lines on it, as Syracuse is in NY, and I am in NY state, I can't bet to win the Atlantic or ACC, but can bet the Coastal.

Early it was Pitt +500 now it is down to +350 (was +400 a couple days ago)

But in an interesting twist the UVA game is now -3 at -110 for either side
 
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PittPanthers90 said:
Been watching the lines on it, as Syracuse is in NY, and I am in NY state, I can't bet to win the Atlantic or ACC, but can bet the Coastal.

Early it was Pitt +500 now it is down to +350 (was +400 a couple days ago)

But in an interesting twist the UVA game is now -3 at -110 for either side
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Bovada still has us at +3 (albeit at -115 versus -105 for -3 on UVA). They have the moneyline -145 for UVA and +125 for us.

What I find really comical is the ACC Champion odds. Of note:

Virginia +1600
Syracuse +2200
Virginia Tech +2200
Pitt +6500

Do I think we'll win the ACC title? Absolutely not. But I can sure as hell guarantee those three teams won't, either. I find it comical how much better their odds are. Then again, Tate the Great Martell still has the 20th best odds to win the Heisman...
 
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9nationalchampionships said:
The Rivers Sportbook website is the worst! A child must have set it up! I have no idea how to navigate to the actual odds on any event.
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Takes time to get used to, but in NY I have to place the bets in person :(
And the self serve kiosks software looks the same as the website basically
 
9nationalchampionships said:
The Rivers Sportbook website is the worst! A child must have set it up! I have no idea how to navigate to the actual odds on any event.
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The buyback on a ML of -141 being +117 is embarrassing. Rush Street Gaming doesn’t really seem to know what they’re doing. You can get away with that though when you deal numbers with as wide a spread as they do. I’m not surprised Jimmy Vaccaro only lasted a few months before he came back to Vegas.
 
BFo8 said:
The buyback on a ML of -141 being +117 is embarrassing. Rush Street Gaming doesn’t really seem to know what they’re doing. You can get away with that though when you deal numbers with as wide a spread as they do. I’m not surprised Jimmy Vaccaro only lasted a few months before he came back to Vegas.
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Should be in the 120s right? Is this because Pitt is in their backyard?
 
Gunga_Galunga said:
Should be in the 120s right? Is this because Pitt is in their backyard?
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I’m sure that’s why the number is moving Pitt’s way, some of these shops really show a geographical lean. It’s the +117 that I hate to see, should definely be at least in the low to mid +120’s.

Sometimes when you see things like this and the 20 cent lines these places often hang for baseball it makes you think they are just trying to take advantage of inexperienced bettors in new markets.
 
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Anyone betting on us to win the division is delusional and is throwing away money. Obviously Virginia is winning the Round Robin Coastal. It’s simple:

2013- Duke
2014- Georgia Tech
2015- North Carolina
2016- Virginia Tech
2017- Miami
2018- Pitt
2019- ?

Now if you want to place money on us winning the division, bet the house on 2025 ;)







Hopefully the reverse jinx works
 
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BFo8 said:
I’m sure that’s why the number is moving Pitt’s way, some of these shops really show a geographical lean. It’s the +117 that I hate to see, should definely be at least in the low to mid +120’s.

Sometimes when you see things like this and the 20 cent lines these places often hang for baseball it makes you think they are just trying to take advantage of inexperienced bettors in new markets.
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Could you please explain for me the +numbers (+100) (-!00) I'm just used to the - and + digits like -3 or + 14 etc. Thanks in advance.
 
All bets are off as they say LOL when Pitt beats Virginia by 6 points. And they will. Home team advantage.
 
vietvet1 said:
Could you please explain for me the +numbers (+100) (-!00) I'm just used to the - and + digits like -3 or + 14 etc. Thanks in advance.
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They are talking about the money line, where there is no point spread, you are betting on who will win the game. If Pitt is +117, that means that if you bet $100 on Pitt and Pitt wins you win $117. If Virginia is -141 then that means you have to bet $141 on Virginia to win $100.
 
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HailtoPitt said:
Take Pitt. We have the best QB behind center is 30 years.
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Ha Ha, Now that is funny. I love mid August, hope springs eternal: "Best QB ....., Off Season Conditioning was Best Ever........., Offensive Line is 80% new but much bigger and more athletic than last year, ..... Blah, Blah, Blah".

I'm not buying it and not repeating the last 30 years only to have my spirit crushed by stupid Pitt. Let's deal in facts:
  • Will Whipple be better than Watson? Yes definitely. However, it wasn't Watson's fault that Pickett couldn't make throws and they tried to protect him by taking away the one thing he did well - run the ball. Pickett is Pickett. Nice kid, a year more experience, still will struggle throwing the ball. My only question is when will they switch to Davis Beville? In closing regarding Pickett - "Show me", I'm not believing any of the hype.
  • Running Backs should be as good as Ollison and Hall. Their success will depend on the success of throwing the ball.
  • Defense should be better. I'll give Pitt that. Twyman is the Real Deal he should have a break out ;year if he stays healthy. Ditto for Patrick Jones. Hope they find someone to replace Weaver. Hope Camp lives up to his potential. DB's are pretty much the same and could be helped immensely by a pass rush. LB's will be better, more athletic. So I'll give you Defense will be better.
  • Hope Pitt adapts more on Defense. Can't play base 4-3 against a team like UCF. Need to look at 3 - 2 - 6 against athletic spread teams.
  • Schedule: When will Pitt learn? OOC of UCF, Penn State and a good Ohio U team is a tall order for most teams.
  • Coaching: Narduzzi is still Narduzzi. A surprise upset when all looks bleak, he'll find a way to lose to UNC again. My only question is how long is Pitt committed to keep up with his mediocrity?
  • Prediction: 6-6 with Narduzzi. If Partridge was the coach 7-5, If Whipple was the coach 9-3.
So, in closing, Pickett is Pickett and Narduzzi is Narduzzi. Pitt is staring at 6-6.
 
Panther_in_Kentucky said:
My only question is when will they switch to Davis Beville?
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Barring injuries, next year at the absolute earliest.

It is somewhat ironic though that you deride the other poster for the "hope springs eternal" preseason post while in the same post making the "backup quarterback that we've never seen play at this level before must be better than the starter so he should be playing right now" post. About the fourth string quarterback, no less.
 
No way Pitt is 6-6 this year. The most talent they have had in a few years. Pitt can improve offensively and defense will give them a winning record. H2P
 
vietvet1 said:
Thanks Joe!
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What he said is correct about the moneyline, which is a bet on a team just to win. But I think you might have been referring to the payout. For instance, Team A can be -3 (-115), and Team B can be +3 (+105). That means I would have to bet $115 on Team A to win by more than 3 if I wanted to win $100, but if I bet $100 on Team B to lose than less by 3, I would actually win $105. It's a way to entice/deter bettors, depending on where the money is going. I'm not sure what determines why they do this versus just changing the point spread. I've seen teams with payouts as low as (-145) on the point spread. To me, you might as well just adjust the spread itself at that point. But I'm sure there is a reason for it.
 
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Pitt has as good of a chance as anybody to win the Coastal!

Edit: I will up the ante and say that the only two games Pitt will lose are Penn State and Clemson.

Jacobs esq
 
FIVE4PITT said:
No way Pitt is 6-6 this year. The most talent they have had in a few years. Pitt can improve offensively and defense will give them a winning record. H2P
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They're not more talented than the 2016 team:

QB - 5th round pick (Peterman)
RB - 3rd round pick (Conner); 5th round pick (Ollison); Hall may latch on with a team
FB - might be starting in the NFL as a rookie
TE - Orndoff was a very good college tight end and is currently with the Buccaneers
WR - I'm not sure if Weah and/or Ford are currently on NFL rosters, but they are at least good enough to still be getting looks; both good college receivers
OL - O'neill is one of the best young linemen in the game; Johnson and Bisnowaty were both drafted; Bookser was a good college guard; Officer was a plus player at center

DL - Jarrett and Soto were good college players who have gotten some NFL looks
LB - We made them look bad, but Bradely lasted a while with the Ravens, and he and Galombos are still fringe NFL guys, aren't they? Grigsby also was, or still is, with an NFL team
Secondary - Whitehead and Maddox both looked pretty damn good as NFL rookies; Ryan Lewis was with the Bills and/or Patriots or something, I believe... not sure if he still is
DE - Price was drafted; not sure if he is still floating around the league, but he was a heck of a college player

Bottom Line: If that defense could have done anything, we're talking about a 10-12 win team. UNC, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech... all winnable. And then who knows how we fare in the bowl game against a team we might care a bit more about facing? Granted, I'm not too oblivious to realize we also could have lost some of the games we won that year, so it kind of cuts both ways. I'm just saying that was a pretty talented team as far as college talent goes. Just couldn't get the x's and o's right on defense.
 
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RingDinger said:
They're not more talented than the 2016 team:

QB - 5th round pick (Peterman)
RB - 3rd round pick (Conner); 5th round pick (Ollison); Hall may latch on with a team
FB - might be starting in the NFL as a rookie
TE - Orndoff was a very good college tight end and is currently with the Buccaneers
WR - I'm not sure if Weah and/or Ford are currently on NFL rosters, but they are at least good enough to still be getting looks; both good college receivers
OL - O'neill is one of the best young linemen in the game; Johnson and Bisnowaty were both drafted; Bookser was a good college guard; Officer was a plus player at center

DL - Jarrett and Soto were good college players who have gotten some NFL looks
LB - We made them look bad, but Bradely lasted a while with the Ravens, and he and Galombos are still fringe NFL guys, aren't they? Grigsby also was, or still is, with an NFL team
Secondary - Whitehead and Maddox both looked pretty damn good as NFL rookies; Ryan Lewis was with the Bills and/or Patriots or something, I believe... not sure if he still is
DE - Price was drafted; not sure if he is still floating around the league, but he was a heck of a college player

Bottom Line: If that defense could have done anything, we're talking about a 10-12 win team. UNC, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech... all winnable. And then who knows how we fare in the bowl game against a team we might care a bit more about facing? Granted, I'm not too oblivious to realize we also could have lost some of the games we won that year, so it kind of cuts both ways. I'm just saying that was a pretty talented team as far as college talent goes. Just couldn't get the x's and o's right on defense.
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Yep! Especially the Oklahoma State debacle .
 
Panther_in_Kentucky said:
Ha Ha, Now that is funny. I love mid August, hope springs eternal: "Best QB ....., Off Season Conditioning was Best Ever........., Offensive Line is 80% new but much bigger and more athletic than last year, ..... Blah, Blah, Blah".

I'm not buying it and not repeating the last 30 years only to have my spirit crushed by stupid Pitt. Let's deal in facts:
  • Will Whipple be better than Watson? Yes definitely. However, it wasn't Watson's fault that Pickett couldn't make throws and they tried to protect him by taking away the one thing he did well - run the ball. Pickett is Pickett. Nice kid, a year more experience, still will struggle throwing the ball. My only question is when will they switch to Davis Beville? In closing regarding Pickett - "Show me", I'm not believing any of the hype.
  • Running Backs should be as good as Ollison and Hall. Their success will depend on the success of throwing the ball.
  • Defense should be better. I'll give Pitt that. Twyman is the Real Deal he should have a break out ;year if he stays healthy. Ditto for Patrick Jones. Hope they find someone to replace Weaver. Hope Camp lives up to his potential. DB's are pretty much the same and could be helped immensely by a pass rush. LB's will be better, more athletic. So I'll give you Defense will be better.
  • Hope Pitt adapts more on Defense. Can't play base 4-3 against a team like UCF. Need to look at 3 - 2 - 6 against athletic spread teams.
  • Schedule: When will Pitt learn? OOC of UCF, Penn State and a good Ohio U team is a tall order for most teams.
  • Coaching: Narduzzi is still Narduzzi. A surprise upset when all looks bleak, he'll find a way to lose to UNC again. My only question is how long is Pitt committed to keep up with his mediocrity?
  • Prediction: 6-6 with Narduzzi. If Partridge was the coach 7-5, If Whipple was the coach 9-3.
So, in closing, Pickett is Pickett and Narduzzi is Narduzzi. Pitt is staring at 6-6.
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In his 7 best games, Pickett's QBR was top 15. He can be a plus QB with the right OC and improved consistency.

I don't think he goes from 7 good games to 12 but he should be better than just 7.

Finding the right combination to run the ball early is going to be just as important.

Some pretty good throws here

 
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I noticed there were very few highlights from Pickett, Mack and Ffrench without Morrissey manning the center position. Three or four out of 50. There was a correlation fellas.
 
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RingDinger said:
They're not more talented than the 2016 team:

QB - 5th round pick (Peterman)
RB - 3rd round pick (Conner); 5th round pick (Ollison); Hall may latch on with a team
FB - might be starting in the NFL as a rookie
TE - Orndoff was a very good college tight end and is currently with the Buccaneers
WR - I'm not sure if Weah and/or Ford are currently on NFL rosters, but they are at least good enough to still be getting looks; both good college receivers
OL - O'neill is one of the best young linemen in the game; Johnson and Bisnowaty were both drafted; Bookser was a good college guard; Officer was a plus player at center

DL - Jarrett and Soto were good college players who have gotten some NFL looks
LB - We made them look bad, but Bradely lasted a while with the Ravens, and he and Galombos are still fringe NFL guys, aren't they? Grigsby also was, or still is, with an NFL team
Secondary - Whitehead and Maddox both looked pretty damn good as NFL rookies; Ryan Lewis was with the Bills and/or Patriots or something, I believe... not sure if he still is
DE - Price was drafted; not sure if he is still floating around the league, but he was a heck of a college player

Bottom Line: If that defense could have done anything, we're talking about a 10-12 win team. UNC, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech... all winnable. And then who knows how we fare in the bowl game against a team we might care a bit more about facing? Granted, I'm not too oblivious to realize we also could have lost some of the games we won that year, so it kind of cuts both ways. I'm just saying that was a pretty talented team as far as college talent goes. Just couldn't get the x's and o's right on defense.
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Of the things people gripe about Narduzzi, such as ridiculous "likeability" and such... his stubbornness to adjust his defense in the slightest in that season to slow down opponents even in the slightest (to take advantage of this one year in a lifetime offense) remains my personal biggest irk. How freaking frustrating most of those games were, even ones we managed to win. He didn't, wouldn't change a thing. Just throw something, anything different from what the opponent knew was coming, just slow the opponent down even a mere tenth in most of those losses that year, and maybe we would have a top 5 team, flirt with the playoff, and jumpstart recruiting ... sigh.
 
joeydavid said:
In his 7 best games, Pickett's QBR was top 15. He can be a plus QB with the right OC and improved consistency.

I don't think he goes from 7 good games to 12 but he should be better than just 7.

Finding the right combination to run the ball early is going to be just as important.

Some pretty good throws here

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While QBR is probably better than traditional stats, it’s still a kind of meh stat.

Pickett’s best games last year were the games where we essentially asked him to do nothing. Where the offense took the game out of his hands and Pickett-proofed it.
 
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McKee Place said:
Of the things people gripe about Narduzzi, such as ridiculous "likeability" and such... his stubbornness to adjust his defense in the slightest in that season to slow down opponents even in the slightest (to take advantage of this one year in a lifetime offense) remains my personal biggest irk. How freaking frustrating most of those games were, even ones we managed to win. He didn't, wouldn't change a thing. Just throw something, anything different from what the opponent knew was coming, just slow the opponent down even a mere tenth in most of those losses that year, and maybe we would have a top 5 team, flirt with the playoff, and jumpstart recruiting ... sigh.
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That season would have bought him a little more breathing room today.
Top 5 offense in the S&P+. Top 25 team in the S&P+. Still loses 4 games in the regular season.

That should have been a season you bank away to carry you through these down seasons. Instead it feels disappointing and there hasn’t been a winning season since.
 
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