Is that he sees the writing on the wall and does what Pat Chambers did in "recruiting" (if you know what I mean) those Top 50s out of nowhere aftet struggling the first few years. Actually Capel and Chambers are in pretty similar spots. Both are going to be doing poorly rebuilding a program in Year 3. Then, knowing his time at PSU was coming to an end, he "recruited" a Top 10 class that bought him time and would have put him into the NCAAT last year. I hope Capel understands this and "recruits" a great class. Otherwise, next year is his last. I'm sorry but that was an embarrassment to Pitt basketball. He needs to do something drastic or he'll be coaching in the SoCon in a few.
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My guess is that nobody will get fired this year due to pandemic.
However, something like a 4-20 record pretty much dooms his regime and he is let go after next year.
It's not gonna be his last. Pitt has no money and unless Pitt pulls a Stallings(which now I am worried could happen since we got blown out by St. Francis)and we go winless in the ACC this year or next, Capel will be here for a long while. It sucks but first priority for Heather should be axing Narduzzi if his team in 2021 is mediocre or worse again.
Of course Capel will be here next season.......unless he goes winless in the ACC and that's simply not going to happen. Even if it did, he would almost definitely get Year 4 due to COVID. However, if this year is as disastrous as it seems it might be, next year will probably be his last. He'd only have 2 years left on his contract, right? Firing a coach with 2 years left is the cost of doing business. If he isnt going to win games, the only thing that can save him is a completely-out-of-nowhere Top 10ish recruiting class like Pat Chambers pulled out of Philly. If he can do something like that, he can sell hope. Other than that, he's coaching for his job next season.
I hear you but Heather could also be looking for a new football coach at that time. I just don't see her replacing both coaches. Let's say Pitt football finishes 6-6 or 5-7 this year and next year without Pickett they finish around the same. Would she really keep Narduzzi around for year 8 with those results? I would think not so he would be gone and now what with Capel? Him too?
Narduzzi is gone next season if he goes 6-6 or worse. 7-5 and he MIGHT get another year. Probably needs to win 8.
For Capel, it depends on how bad this year is. If he finishes last for the 3rd year in a row, he's probably going to have to get pretty close to the NCAAT in Year 4 to keep his job. Finishing last in Year 1 was ok. Finishing last in Year 2 in the weakest ACC in history was not. If he does it again or even 13th or 14th, the seat gets scalding hot.
For better or for worse, Capel’s fate may ride on last years class. Unless there are defections, he won’t have many spots available in this current class when we’re already likely going to be heading into the Spring without a commit. Big classes are always a double edged sword as it’s nice to have an influx of young players, but it can really cause an imbalance in class size for a few years and limit how much you’re able to fix issues. There are certainly issues to fix, but with a potentially small 2021 class, he’s running out of at bats with which to hit a home run.
We’re paying the price now for the high profile misses in year 2/3. This last year absolutely has to be a foundational class or else were in deep trouble. Relying on guys like Horton or Sibande to come in every year and be an impact player rather than a supporting role is fools gold.
We’re paying the price now for the high profile misses in year 2/3. This last year absolutely has to be a foundational class or else were in deep trouble. Relying on guys like Horton or Sibande to come in every year and be an impact player rather than a supporting role is fools gold.
Remember the fans on this board who wanted Jamie Dixon replaced.
Jamie can get us in the NCAA's but does not go deep enough in the tournament.
How many more years will it take before Pitt again makes the NCAA.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Jamie can get us in the NCAA's but does not go deep enough in the tournament.
How many more years will it take before Pitt again makes the NCAA.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
If Pitt needs a coaching change, Lyke should be on the hot seat. It may turn out to be two major screw-ups under her watch. The long extension to Narduzzi after a poor season was unnecessary. He wasn't going anywhere and is overpaid and average at best. If Capel fails, she should be shown the door. Face it, all of the other sports hardly matter. If the AD can't succeed at FB and BB, job security is out the door.
I agree with the premise of your post. Capel needs to overhaul his coaching staff and S&C program.
Back the brinks up to get Orlando and BK on staff then hire an AAU coach attached to a player for 120k
My hope for Capel is that he continues to get in touch with his inner being and expound on his societal Philosophies as they relate to the American experience, pursue a Ph.D in Sociology and return to his beloved Duke as a professor to enlighten the masses on the tremendous changes needed in the culture to truly become one of hope. This, not coaching, is his true calling.
Agreed! Let’s talk about 3 outstanding coaching staffs. Texas Tech, Illinois, and Rutgers. Beard is one of the best in the business and the other two have done a great job turning those programs around.
I’d argue Pikiell has done an even better job than Beard. Obviously not the same success but Rutgers is a pit. And when replacing JD, I begged anyone I knew (including EJ) to look at Brad Underwood. He’s a terrific coach.
I didn’t say anything yet because it’s only one game but this board said we couldn’t use Mac McClung and he had 20 points in 21 mins in their opener smh
Illinois is loaded this year and Underwood is an excellent coach. They have a legit shot to win it all. I like coaches that had to claw and scratch their way to the top. Teams take on the personality of their coach. I like watching all 3 teams.
I remember when I lived in South Carolina and went to a USC practice. Underwood ran the entire practice and Martin let him do whatever he wanted. Then I coached against Underwood the next year when he was at SFA and was amazed by his offense. Just a terrific coach who can adapt and recruit. Also an awesome guy. Have spent time with him engaging in libations and found him to be personable, smart and funny. Easy to see why recruits like him.
and no, I don’t want to date him. Just saying he is an excellent coach.
I wish some of you guys worked for the athletic department. We'd be #1 in every sport.
I was low on Pikiell but if he gets Rutgers to back to back NCAATs (woulda made last years), he should be given an automatic introduction to the Hall of Fame.
And I would agree Capel needs to do everything in his power to get Antigua and Knight. Getting those 2 guys could buy him a year or 2.
Illinois was destroying some cream puff yesterday and he was coaching his butt off in the second half like it was the national championship and the score was tied. THAT is how good coaches do it. He is setting the tone for the entire program that maximum effort is required at all times.
I would imagine since they’re top 20 preseason they have a pretty solid chance. I told you he was an excellent coach. I don’t miss on b-ball coaches and rarely miss on players.
I was actually embarrassed watching him during the South Carolina practice he was so hard on one dude. But the kids know it comes from a place of love with him. He’s genuine. So he can get away with it.
What are your thoughts on Ricky Greer? He seems to be doing a good job at Dayton and speaks well in regards to his time at Pitt. Give him a raise to come back as an assistant.
He’s very good and gettable. I would imagine he’s making roughly 150k at Dayton. The problem is job security. He could almost certainly make a job to almost any top job with who he’s recruited and developed or get a head job at a LM. What’s the appeal to coming to Pitt if we finish poorly again?
2 points.
Are you already saying this team will stink all year after one poor game?
Where is Chambers now?
Yes and where Chambers is now is irrelevant. He was doing poorly at PSU and knew what he had to do to keep his job so he got his hands dirty and developed an NCAAT caliber team.
I wanted Oats. Guess Capel is a rock star off the court but I have no clue what on court identity is? There’s still little depth at guard and 4,5 are small so I’m assuming the wings? Well right now most of them can’t shoot or defend.
I don’t know for sure, but based on convos I’ve had I would say 400, 300, 200 or 250. Something in that range.
BK wanted 400 and associate head title. The 400 wasn’t the problem. The title was. So that’s where my guess is.
Dayum. Yeah if it was my staff, I'd definitely be looking for younger, hungry dudes, that have star potential, the exact opposite of what we have.
Our staff makes no sense. None of them are excellent recruiters, and they are all failed head coaches. greeeeat.
Well with one ‘ship he better go balls to the wall in signing the best one and done PG that $$$ can buy. He’s on record saying he won’t push players out but we’ll see in that regard. One game changer in ‘21 ain’t happenin’.
I’ve hammered this for 3 years and was told to give them time and I was wrong.
Check out the Fort Worth newspapers. TCU love for Dixon has dimmed. He's not the savior they were looking for.
I was probably one of those because I'm not really knowledgeable about coaches and how it works.
And i would be happy to admit that I think I was wrong.
We should all admit when we are wrong, it'd make the world a better place.
My whole thinking was, based on talking to numerous people, they wouldn’t be good enough recruiters. I hoped they’d make up for it in X’s and O’s. Welp... (chugs another beer).
It is relevant. You want Capel to do what Chambers did. Where did that get Chambers.
It got him an NIT Championship and an NCAAT bid (if there was a tournament). You wouldn't sign up for that? We are staring at 4 straight last place finishes.
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