Narduzzi's Salary

[HailtoPitt]

PG says that the latest federal filings by Pitt list Narduzzi's total salary at $1.83 million. That would place him at #59 among head college football coaches.

Pitt ranks 51st in total football revenue, so I'd like to see his salary more in line with Pitt's actual status, because if those numbers are right he is currently underpaid.

 

[raleighpanther]

As the PG article points out, his salary is in line with a first time head coach, and will likely be quite a bit bigger next year due to the contract extension he signed.

 

[ThePanthers]

As the PG article points out, his salary is in line with a first time head coach, and will likely be quite a bit bigger next year due to the contract extension he signed.

This. That was for the FY 2016, which was his first year head coach.

But some kooks on here will turn it into something else. See OP.

 

[Swervin27]

do we have any idea what the annual is after the extension? Would guess under 2.5 but of course I have no idea, just a guess.

if we can get another 8-9 win regular season this year, I say get him over 3 mill. I know it wont scare the big fish away if they come calling but still a nice gesture. spending big bucks on a football coach is a good investment. apples to oranges but saban makes a zillion dollars a year and it can be debated that bama is still making out on their ROI.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

That doubled his salary from msu,but still seems low vs Dabo 5m, Franklin 4.5m and on verge of new deal any day.
Chryst was at 1,645,652 when he left.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

PG says that the latest federal filings by Pitt list Narduzzi's total salary at $1.83 million. That would place him at #59 among head college football coaches.

Pitt ranks 51st in total football revenue, so I'd like to see his salary more in line with Pitt's actual status, because if those numbers are right he is currently underpaid.

So for the numbnutts on this site who are claiming KS is making $ 2 mill which would be more than a very successful/proven PITT football head coach LOL!

KS is making less than $1.5 mill.

 

[thebadby2]

That doubled his salary from msu,but still seems low vs Dabo 5m, Franklin 4.5m and on verge of new deal any day.
Chryst was at 1,645,652 when he left.

Are you suggesting he should be paid similarly to Dabo, or even Franklin, who was a successful P5 head coach before he went to PSU?

Based on what?

 

[ThePanthers]

That doubled his salary from msu,but still seems low vs Dabo 5m, Franklin 4.5m and on verge of new deal any day.
Chryst was at 1,645,652 when he left.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Are you suggesting he should be paid similarly to Dabo, or even Franklin, who was a successful P5 head coach before he went to PSU?

Based on what?

Nothing, no, it competitve in the acc coastal. But just a dose of reality I guess.

 

[SVPanther]

PG says that the latest federal filings by Pitt list Narduzzi's total salary at $1.83 million. That would place him at #59 among head college football coaches.

Pitt ranks 51st in total football revenue, so I'd like to see his salary more in line with Pitt's actual status, because if those numbers are right he is currently underpaid.

Seriously? Last I checked, Pitt is a University. Yet, a football coach at the University should be paid more than the Chancellor?
Makes sense to you?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Seriously? Last I checked, Pitt is a University. Yet, a football coach at the University should be paid more than the Chancellor?
Makes sense to you?

That's reality. Or do you want to drop down to a lower division?

 

[DiehardPanther]

Drop down to lower division. Pitt is University. A very good one.

So are Stanford, Michigan, Cal, UCLA, Vanderbilt, GT, Texas, Florida, Colorado, Duke, UNC, Wisconsin, Northwestern, ND, etc. This was a big whiff on your part.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Seriously? Last I checked, Pitt is a University. Yet, a football coach at the University should be paid more than the Chancellor?
Makes sense to you?

No, but this is true at Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt as well. Actually, at every power conference school, and many non-power conference schools, football and basketball coaches make more than presidents or chancellors. It is the way the world is.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

No, but this is true at Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt as well. Actually, at every power conference school, and many non-power conference schools, football and basketball coaches make more than presidents or chancellors. It is the way the world is.

Paraphrasing something that Babe Ruth reportedly responded when told that he was making more money than the POTUS: sometimes the football coach has had a better year than the university president (or chancellor).

 

[SVPanther]

No, but this is true at Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt as well. Actually, at every power conference school, and many non-power conference schools, football and basketball coaches make more than presidents or chancellors. It is the way the world is.

No doubt. But is it right?

 

[ThePanthers]

Nothing, no, it competitve in the acc coastal. But just a dose of reality I guess.

When narduzzi wins the conference or a national championship then that is when reality for those salaries will happen.

 

[CrazyPaco]

It is neither right nor wrong. Compensation is dictated by market. There are any number of occupations that aren't compensated in correlation with their supposed societal value compared to other positions.

You may want Pitt to become some sort of institutional martyr, but no one else here does. Pitt tried this in the 40s and 90s; and all it did was humiliate and damage the university.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

So you are posting on the FB board so you either want excellence in FB or you are a troll. Paco's list above are schools that want to excel in both and put the $$$$ out to try to accomplish this.

Drop down to lower division. Pitt is University. A very good one.

 

[Swervin27]

So for the numbnutts on this site who are claiming KS is making $ 2 mill which would be more than a very successful/proven PITT football head coach LOL!

KS is making less than $1.5 mill.

still too much,

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Drop down to lower division. Pitt is University. A very good one.

What a :

 

[Swervin27]

When narduzzi wins the conference or a national championship then that is when reality for those salaries will happen.

it's this mindset that gets us reaching out to 3rd party firms every other year to look for a new batch of head coaching candidates.

im not looking to compare duzzi to Sweeney or fisher, lets compare his salary to that of Sutcliffe, fuente, richt, fedora, mendenhall, and paul Johnson. still way behind.

 

[ThePanthers]

it's this mindset that gets us reaching out to 3rd party firms every other year to look for a new batch of head coaching candidates.

im not looking to compare duzzi to Sweeney or fisher, lets compare his salary to that of Sutcliffe, fuente, richt, fedora, mendenhall, and paul Johnson. still way behind.

Most of those guys are established coaches. Narduzzi will get paid more when he gets the experience and the market dictates that we buck up.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Most of those guys are established coaches. Narduzzi will get paid more when he gets the experience and the market dictates that we buck up.

Actually that will be an issue for PITT. As he proves himself as a HC his value rises every year until the time that he's priced out of PITT's comp range for a football HC.
Unless he likes it at PITT and decides to take the max he can get and stay.
We hope!

 

[9nationalchampionships]

When do you deiced you want to buy a car?

1) When you have checked it out and had a test drive
2) When you have driven the car across the country and back

 

[thebadby2]

No, but this is true at Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt as well. Actually, at every power conference school, and many non-power conference schools, football and basketball coaches make more than presidents or chancellors. It is the way the world is.

A lot more in many of those cases.

 

[Swervin27]

Most of those guys are established coaches. Narduzzi will get paid more when he gets the experience and the market dictates that we buck up.

and once again, with this mindset, better keep that 3rd party searching firm telephone # handy. in today's world of college football, you cant wait for proven, sustained success, then react. if you do, you are two steps behind. a school like pitt better find that unproven coach, have faith in him and pay him accordingly. if pitt waits for that coach to prove his worth over a few year period, then and only then will they offer competitive salary, we better look for another team to root for..

 

[ThePanthers]

and once again, with this mindset, better keep that 3rd party searching firm telephone # handy. in today's world of college football, you cant wait for proven, sustained success, then react. if you do, you are two steps behind. a school like pitt better find that unproven coach, have faith in him and pay him accordingly. if pitt waits for that coach to prove his worth over a few year period, then and only then will they offer competitive salary, we better look for another team to root for..

Hence why Pitt extended Narduzzi after one year with a raise (we'll see exactly how much in next years returns), and also why they continually extended Dixon well before the end of the contract. And I'm sure they'll continue to up Narduzzi's contact well in advance if he continues to do well.

But they aren't going to jump from 1.8M to 4-5M after 2 8 win seasons. That is what some of you seem to want. That doesn't make sense.

 

[Swervin27]

Hence why Pitt extended Narduzzi after one year with a raise (we'll see exactly how much in next years returns), and also why they continually extended Dixon well before the end of the contract. And I'm sure they'll continue to up Narduzzi's contact well in advance if he continues to do well.

But they aren't going to jump from 1.8M to 4-5M after 2 8 win seasons. That is what some of you seem to want. That doesn't make sense.

honestly, I'd like to see him be in and around the 2.75 - 3m range. I think 3M is a reach. our boy Holgy is at 2.9m, or was a few years ago, that put him at around 37th on the coaching scale. no reason why Duzzi shouldn't be around 2.75, no reason at all.

Crunch the numbers all you want, we are on the back 1/2 of the coaching salary scale. regarding P5 programs, a heck of a lot closer to the bottom than the middle. personally, I think Duzzi is a better than avg coach in the P5 world, and should be compensated accordingly.

no one is saying 4-5 million, we are pitt, we know our place. and please leave the "other income" talk out of it, all coaches get "other income" so it's not like Pitt is any different than any other school with their coaches having additional streams of income nor is our HC getting more than other schools in that manner.

 

[Jpripper88]

So for the numbnutts on this site who are claiming KS is making $ 2 mill which would be more than a very successful/proven PITT football head coach LOL!

KS is making less than $1.5 mill.

No he isn't. Base pay doesn't matter. Total compensation is the story and Stallings makes more than $2M in total compensation.

HCPN will make more than Stallings with the extension.

 

[Jpripper88]

No doubt. But is it right?

If you think it is a travesty, why do you care about athletics? Why would you post on a football recruiting message board?

 

[ThePanthers]

honestly, I'd like to see him be in and around the 2.75 - 3m range. I think 3M is a reach. our boy Holgy is at 2.9m, or was a few years ago, that put him at around 37th on the coaching scale. no reason why Duzzi shouldn't be around 2.75, no reason at all. Crunch the numbers all you want, we are on the back 1/2 of the coaching salary scale. regarding P5 programs, a heck of a lot closer to the bottom than the middle. personally, I think Duzzi is a better than avg coach in the P5 world, and should be compensated accordingly.

no one is saying 4-5 million, we are pitt, we know our place. and please leave the "other income" talk out of it, all coaches get "other income" so it's not like Pitt is any different than any other school with their coaches having additional streams of income nor is our HC getting more than other schools in that manner.

Holgerson's initial contract for first time head coach was around $2.2M. He is in his 6th year and will make around $3M. He also won an Orange bowl.

Narduzzi isn't far behind what Holgy was making and I'm sure Pitt will be ultra competitive (for what they can afford) as Narduzzi becomes more established. Again, we'll see the raise he got in next year's return after just one year.

 

[revampedpanthers]

honestly, I'd like to see him be in and around the 2.75 - 3m range. I think 3M is a reach. our boy Holgy is at 2.9m, or was a few years ago, that put him at around 37th on the coaching scale. no reason why Duzzi shouldn't be around 2.75, no reason at all.

Crunch the numbers all you want, we are on the back 1/2 of the coaching salary scale. regarding P5 programs, a heck of a lot closer to the bottom than the middle. personally, I think Duzzi is a better than avg coach in the P5 world, and should be compensated accordingly.

no one is saying 4-5 million, we are pitt, we know our place. and please leave the "other income" talk out of it, all coaches get "other income" so it's not like Pitt is any different than any other school with their coaches having additional streams of income nor is our HC getting more than other schools in that manner.

Is the 1.8 million his first contract or the 2nd? If its the second then he should be getting a pretty big raise if he wins 8 or more games this year. I think with another 8 win season he should be making in the 2.5 range. If he wins big here we are going to have to get to the 4 million range or he won't stay. He might not stay anyhow. But whats the difference for Pitt's bottom line if Pitt win's 8 games a year vs 6. Maybe another 5k seat per home game. So with consistent 8 win season's Pitt probably gets 600k to 700k in additional revenue. So if the low ball amount is 1.5 to 1.8 million a year(what you are going to pay any coach then PN at 8 wins is worth 2.2 to 2.5 million to keep. Thats not including any possible ticket increase because demand goes up or the continued building of the fan base that is possible with consistent winning. If Pitt is a consistent 10 win team I think they could sell additional 10k seats(and likely do so while getting a good increase in ticket price) in that case PN value to pitt would be a additional 1.5 to 2 million or 3 to 3.8 million in additional revenue. Basically PN, if he continues to win, will pay for himself up to a certain point.

 

[HailtoPitt]

honestly, I'd like to see him be in and around the 2.75 - 3m range. I think 3M is a reach. our boy Holgy is at 2.9m, or was a few years ago, that put him at around 37th on the coaching scale. no reason why Duzzi shouldn't be around 2.75, no reason at all.

Crunch the numbers all you want, we are on the back 1/2 of the coaching salary scale. regarding P5 programs, a heck of a lot closer to the bottom than the middle. personally, I think Duzzi is a better than avg coach in the P5 world, and should be compensated accordingly.

no one is saying 4-5 million, we are pitt, we know our place. and please leave the "other income" talk out of it, all coaches get "other income" so it's not like Pitt is any different than any other school with their coaches having additional streams of income nor is our HC getting more than other schools in that manner.

$2.2 million would put him around 51st, which is where Pitt's revenue ranks, though it could increase and bump Pitt higher. Technically he was paid less than what Pitt can afford for several years, so Pitt shouldn't have an issue increasing his salary to at least 2.6 million for 3 years. After that, if a raise is warranted then Pitt should have more revenue as a result of more winning and higher ticket sales. Of course, I'd argue that at that point they need to pay even more to keep him, as allowing a successful coach to leave will be costly.

 

[Jpripper88]

Is the 1.8 million his first contract or the 2nd? If its the second then he should be getting a pretty big raise if he wins 8 or more games this year. I think with another 8 win season he should be making in the 2.5 range. If he wins big here we are going to have to get to the 4 million range or he won't stay. He might not stay anyhow. But whats the difference for Pitt's bottom line if Pitt win's 8 games a year vs 6. Maybe another 5k seat per home game. So with consistent 8 win season's Pitt probably gets 600k to 700k in additional revenue. So if the low ball amount is 1.5 to 1.8 million a year(what you are going to pay any coach then PN at 8 wins is worth 2.2 to 2.5 million to keep. Thats not including any possible ticket increase because demand goes up or the continued building of the fan base that is possible with consistent winning. If Pitt is a consistent 10 win team I think they could sell additional 10k seats(and likely do so while getting a good increase in ticket price) in that case PN value to pitt would be a additional 1.5 to 2 million or 3 to 3.8 million in additional revenue. Basically PN, if he continues to win, will pay for himself up to a certain point.

Honestly, considering the constraints at Pitt and the kind of job HCPN would need to get to truly price us out on his salary, the real difference between a successful HCPN staying at Pitt and leaving for another school is going to be the staff and ancillary budgets for recruiting and support. That is where I worry Pitt would get lapped and potentially lose HCPN.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Honestly, considering the constraints at Pitt and the kind of job HCPN would need to get to truly price us out on his salary, the real difference between a successful HCPN staying at Pitt and leaving for another school is going to be the staff and ancillary budgets for recruiting and support. That is where I worry Pitt would get lapped and potentially lose HCPN.

Constraints an interesting word and a nice way to put things.

I look at it differently!

Considering PITT's

-failure to commit to excellence in D1 sports
-mimimal knowledge of how to run a top notch D1 athletic program
-lack of quality personnel ( SP, Barnes, & Lyke) to move the program to a top level

a coach like Narduzzi may decide to go elsewhere.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

The amusing (because if you didn't laugh, you'd cry) is this PS guy who frequents here, pretending to be the Pitt fan, calling for "deemphasis" of sports thinks he's trolling. Yet Pitt's administration self-sanctions its sports every day in the ways you list (and many others). There scarcely could be LESS emphasis other than dropping them outright (which might actually be a blessing if it happened).

PS and WV trolls should realize that their biggest allies are those in the cathedral paneled offices. Nothing that their programs have done in games or recruiting against Pitt has had more detrimental impact than the damage inflicted from within.

It's why I laugh when PSU zealots attempt to argue against irrefutable criticisms of their activities ... rapes, etc. Their tried true argument is "Jealous Pitt fans trying to take us down". Well I'd certainly enjoy that, but I'm wise (wizened) enough to know that PSU could be eviscerated by a nuclear disaster tomorrow (ahhh... Oh sorry, just took a moment to relish that image) and it wouldn't help Pitt football (and certainly not basketball) one bit. Not unless our execs and trustees happened to be up there too.

 

[Jpripper88]

Constraints an interesting word and a nice way to put things.

I look at it differently!

Considering PITT's

-failure to commit to excellence in D1 sports
-mimimal knowledge of how to run a top notch D1 athletic program
-lack of quality personnel ( SP, Barnes, & Lyke) to move the program to a top level

a coach like Narduzzi may decide to go elsewhere.

Those things are true, but the biggest issue is an inability to generate revenue and donations. Those things could certainly be improved, but they can never compete with the elite of the college sports world.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Those things are true, but the biggest issue is an inability to generate revenue and donations. Those things could certainly be improved, but they can never compete with the elite of the college sports world.

No but we should be able to enter the top 50 in revenue. Difficult to make happen when the administration is consistently shooting itself in the foot. This is especially true when one of the benefits of playing at Heinz Field is that we don't need to worry about the costs of maintaining and updating a stadium.

 

[Jpripper88]

No but we should be able to enter the top 50 in revenue. Difficult to make happen when the administration is consistently shooting itself in the foot. This is especially true when one of the benefits of playing at Heinz Field is that we don't need to worry about the costs of maintaining and updating a stadium.

Top 50 in revenue really doesn't matter. The difference between #51 and even #35 is miniscule compared to the difference between #15 and #1.

 

[ThePanthers]

Top 50 in revenue really doesn't matter. The difference between #51 and even #35 is miniscule compared to the difference between #15 and #1.

This.