The difference between 50 and 35 is about $7 million. Not insignificant when every penny counts for Pitt.
Narduzzi's Salary
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The difference between 50 and 35 is about $7 million. Not insignificant when every penny counts for Pitt.
Yeah, but we aren't likely to lose HCPN to a middling program and revenue producer. We would lose him to teams in the top 15 of revenues and/or with significant boosters (like Oregon) who can just cover a buyout or new staff. We are talking about programs who, yearly, generate $30-50M more than we do and have sport specific endowments which dwarf our entire AD. Pitt can be competitive with #35, but we cannot be competitive with #9 or 10.
I think we should be concerned about losing Narduzzi to one of those top 35 teams. Arizona is 37th in revenue and pays RichRod $1 million more than Narduzzi. Cal is 36th in revenue and pays Dykes over $1 million more. Texas Tech is 34th in revenue and they pay Klingsbury (also a first time head coach) $1.5 million more. ASU is 33rd in revenue and pays Douchebag $1.3 million more.
And those numbers will only increase, so Pitt needs to be absolutely prepared to pay accordingly, which includes winning games so that they can increase revenue. That means keeping Narduzzi from those mid range programs.
If you've read his posts in the past then you would know that yes, he does want Pitt to drop down to a lower division.
That is true. I suspect it will happen one way or the other. As a general proposition, to be a consistent power you have to either (1) have to have some stomach for scandals (2) spend 2x, 3x more on football/basketball (3) have a compliant administration and board of trustees.
Pitt has no tolerance for (1), will not devote resources for (2) and never had, nor has today (3) [Majors I not analogous, College Athletics different animal today].
So, if correct, the choice is to mire in P5 mediocrity with consequent stagnant revenues or, embrace Pitt's mission as a premier research university, graduate school (albeit Law and Katz are in need of major upgrades) and an improving undergrad program.
You may not "like" my conclusion. However, reason supports it.
I believe pitt has done better than mired in mediocrity. We've come close many many times to winning either the big east or the coastal. Ok, maybe not so much with coastal but many times in the big east.
I believe we are a very competitive football program right now. Yes, we've alluded actually winning our conference outside of 04, but I think we are in the conversation of very respected P5 football programs.
" I think we are in the conversation of very respected P5 football programs."
K. What's that's cost, and what is the return on being "respectable" in dollars?
K. What's that's cost, and what is the return on being "respectable" in dollars?
Makes complete sense to me....it's called the market working. I guess you would prefer calling in the social justice police to make everything "more fair".
Correct! Let free market work! Let student athletes transfer whenever, wherever they want. Agree?
Everything you pass off as factual points is simply your singular opinion which isn't actually supported by fact or reality. Reason and history do not support your conclusion. Your posts get sadder and sadder. Really, your immense ignorance on many issues is more than telling. So few of your posts are worthwhile of any time, and they've come to the point where they're as enjoyable as engaging a five year old in a philosophical argument on the meaning of existence. There really is no reason to keep you off ignore any longer.
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I'm not sure the word "reason" should ever be used in connection with anything you have ever posted on this board.
Other than maybe something like "the reason he posts stuff like that is that he has no idea what he is talking about".
Pitt has shown a willingness to compensate based on performance to retain a good coach.
It would be stupid to pay him more now until he's offered more elsewhere .
Your market value is you offers, not others compensation.
It would be stupid to pay him more now until he's offered more elsewhere .
Your market value is you offers, not others compensation.
Agree and Pitt will never reach that top 15 no matter what. Even if Pitt alumni supported the program at a equal rate per alumni Pitt simply doesn't have the number of alumni that some of these schools have. But with a consistent 8 to 10 win team Pitt can build a fan base. When Pitt was going 3-9 under majors 2 I can pretty much guarantee you there weren't many new alumni that were becoming Pitt fans(or at least fans that will attend games and support the program) Now these last two years I bet more of the current students will become life long fans. Its one place where a on campus stadium helps. Gets the students to the games where they become fans and come back after they graduate.
Not true if he is making 3 million he might not even take a call from most programs. Also with a contract like that a properly setup buyout can keep all but the big boys from being able to afford him. Now if he is making 1.8 million and South carolina calls he might take the call. Often times in business you can keep a employee easier by giving them competitive compensation from the start. Once they have went out and got a job offer often times it ends up costing more than if they were paid the going rate from the start.
Dixon's name got mysteriously leaked for every damn opening over the last 8 years. every time these internet rumors had legs, he'd get an extension. Funny too, Dixon or his agent never once publically stated that these rumors are false and announced his commitment to stay at pitt, but as soon as that extension was signed, he'd then and only then, come out publically and denounce these rumors..
funny how that happens with these agents and these internet rumors. youd almost think they were behind leaking these.. almost similar to sean miller rumors leaked and all of a sudden, Arizona gives him more money.. just a coincidence I guess..
He got competitive compensation for a first time head coach, and immediately after his first season got a raise and an extension. He and the Pitt admin are in constant contact and Narduzzi has stated numerous times they are keeping things competitive.
Yes
And if narduzzi is close to as successful, I hope we likewise hold onto him for 13 years
You're delusional if you think he won't even entertain other offers.
Seriously. He'd be an idiot to not listen, even if content at Pitt.
Do people here really stay in jobs forever? I've interviewed places with no real interest, only to see what the offer was.
Reality isn't so straightforward. People do leave for more money, they also stay for less. However, if one is treated well, one is more likely to stay. Making sure compensation is competitive can greatly reduce the chance of a lateral move - and perhaps coupled with other factors, including luck, cause no move to be made. Conversely, under paying will almost always cause a high performing and ambitious employees to leave.
Coach Narduzzi is still a couple seasons away from being in demand. The Clemson game is a big feather in his cap, but ADs will look at his full resume. He built his rep on defense, yet the D sucked last year and never showed signs of improvement. His team's were poorly prepared for the last two bowl games. And his current recruiting will not impress many ADs.
He needs to continue to win and clean up some flaws before any of the big money programs come calling. That will likely take 2 or 3 seasons.
He needs to continue to win and clean up some flaws before any of the big money programs come calling. That will likely take 2 or 3 seasons.
If he has a decent season Narduzzi will get an offer or two from the mid range programs. They will probably throw about $3 million at him.
Yes, this is true. Pitt seems to be in an interesting (like how a toothache is interesting) position where our coaches are forgiven for subpar results by other programs and still considered for better jobs. Frankly, Harris, Graham, Chryst and Dixon didn't deserve the levels of jobs they were able to get at better programs. It seems the thinking by other schools that a 6-6 at Pitt is like a 10-2 other places and our coaches remain in demand accordingly.
Dixon was subpar? He was just the all-time winningest coach in Big East history at a program that was historically mediocre and has no local recruiting base. I guess you are one of those that has no idea about the incredibly high regard that he is held in the basketball community. And he left for a program that definitely was in the running for the historically worst program in all the power conferences.
Pitt will be lucky to ever be that subpar again.
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You really think waiting to match is a great idea? Once other offers are being considered, they are being considered. Pay fairly first, and the silly, painful and wasteful going/ not going debate can be avoided.
If Coach Narduzzi seriously considers moving down to a mid range program for a pay raise, he's not the coach I think he can be. If he shows interest in a mid range, I would tell him to take the money and hit the road. Pitt should have a coach who wants to compete for the ACC title. Do that and you payday will come. My hunch is Coach Narduzzi has his sights set higher than mid range.
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