NCAA charges UNC with 5 serious allegations...

[pitt-girl]

Curious what everyone thinks the punishment will be with these? I understand that the PSU/Sandusky scandal was morally at a whole other level, but these UNC transgressions seem pretty bad. Especially the non-cooperation from the faculty members involved in the athletic department. At the very least UNC should be stripped of its 2005 NC in hoops. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...th-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

 

[cruzer]

Curious what everyone thinks the punishment will be with these? I understand that the PSU/Sandusky scandal was morally at a whole other level, but these UNC transgressions seem pretty bad. Especially the non-cooperation from the faculty members involved in the athletic department. At the very least UNC should be stripped of its 2005 NC in hoops. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...th-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

These are serious allegations indeed. I predict:

1. UNC will hire Sepp Blatter as the new AD.

2. The entire executive leadership team at the NCAA will suddenly be driving Bentleys.

3. UNC will be awarded the 2020 NCAA Tournament Finals.

4. Michael Jordan will come out of retirement and be awarded a special one year exemption to play in the tournament.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Curious what everyone thinks the punishment will be with these? I understand that the PSU/Sandusky scandal was morally at a whole other level, but these UNC transgressions seem pretty bad. Especially the non-cooperation from the faculty members involved in the athletic department. At the very least UNC should be stripped of its 2005 NC in hoops. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...th-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

UNC Basketball was built on NCAA violations from 1950-60s! Just did it! UNC needs a major clean up, but doubt it can be done.

Penn State Football Scandal as more Non-Compliance with Rules, lack of Athletic Integrity Agreement, Officer, No Code of Athletes Conduct, Clery & Title IX Violations and LOIC.

 

[Hailpitt]

What about due process? Also you need to consider the bias in the report? Clearly it was a hatchet job designed to attack UNC coaches? How do we actually know that UNC athletes did not benefit from these fake courses? Did the NCAA ever check to see whether the UNC athletes "learned something" from these courses? Besides there is no actual evidence that these athletes knew that these courses were bogus! How the hell does the NCAA make the connection that the UNC coaches knew these courses were fake? The media's reporting on this is a disgrace and they are clearly out to get UNC. What about the NCAA and Emmert---they just want to take UNC down. Don't even get me started about the UNC Board of trustees who have essentially thrown this great University and their coaches to the wolves. All of the NCAA's evidence is fabricated. This is just like the psu/paterno scandal--its ALL MADE UP!
Wake up people--someone needs to investigate this.

 

[geeman2001]

I expect Jamal Artis to be suspended for a year for organizing a tug of war at a church youth camp this summer using a hemp rope.

What will UNC get? Most likely, nothing of substance, other triple donations from outraged boosters ... outraged by the hint of discipline, that is.

Sadly, neither scenario is much of an exaggeration.

 

[pittmeister]

Obviously their sports programs will suffer because of the actions of a few...Why should the fans and the players who didn't benefit from these indiscretions be punished as well?

This is an academics issue. The ones who participated should be fired and put in jail. Leave their precious sports programs alone. Any players who transfers out are traitors. They should be ridiculed and attacked on social media.

Any punishment handed out by the BOT's beyond what the NCAA hands out should be met with violence and rioting. A full blown campaign to discredit the findings should be enacted immediately. All media friends of the university should be circling the wagons in an attempt to defend its honor no matter how much the facts get in the way.

And if that idiot fan base, their so called rivals (NCST) tries to tell the truth in the midst of their spin campaign, they should be harassed on every social media. They should be reminded that they play their football games 4 miles away from campus!

Those are my thoughts...

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

They really seemed to slant this towards women's BB. In the NCAA's nefarious ways, wouldn't surprise me to see them hammer UNC Women's Hoops and lightly slap the football and men's BB program. In truthful, they should have significant loss of scholies and say a 3 year post season ban for all 3 of them.

 

[Saboteur]

Curious what everyone thinks the punishment will be with these? I understand that the PSU/Sandusky scandal was morally at a whole other level, but these UNC transgressions seem pretty bad. Especially the non-cooperation from the faculty members involved in the athletic department. At the very least UNC should be stripped of its 2005 NC in hoops. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...th-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

Did your son graduate with an engineering degree from rival NCS??? Ha!
These southern blue bloods tend to get away with the proverbial slap on the wrist and UNC is blue through and through.
I expect them to be put on 2 year non restricted probation, have some minor schollies cut and forced to go to the blackboard and write the sentence "I'm Carolina born and bred and when I die I'll be Carolina dead" 10,000 times.
Then they will be good to go.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

What about due process? Also you need to consider the bias in the report? Clearly it was a hatchet job designed to attack UNC coaches? How do we actually know that UNC athletes did not benefit from these fake courses? Did the NCAA ever check to see whether the UNC athletes "learned something" from these courses? Besides there is no actual evidence that these athletes knew that these courses were bogus! How the hell does the NCAA make the connection that the UNC coaches knew these courses were fake? The media's reporting on this is a disgrace and they are clearly out to get UNC. What about the NCAA and Emmert---they just want to take UNC down. Don't even get me started about the UNC Board of trustees who have essentially thrown this great University and their coaches to the wolves. All of the NCAA's evidence is fabricated. This is just like the psu/paterno scandal--its ALL MADE UP!
Wake up people--someone needs to investigate this.

LOL!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Did your son graduate with an engineering degree from rival NCS??? Ha!
These southern blue bloods tend to get away with the proverbial slap on the wrist and UNC is blue through and through.
I expect them to be put on 2 year non restricted probation, have some minor schollies cut and forced to go to the blackboard and write the sentence "I'm Carolina born and bred and when I die I'll be Carolina dead" 10,000 times.
Then they will be good to go.

Spoken as a true TARHEEL.....One legend has the nickname being applied to the state's residents as long ago as the Revolutionary War. According to this story, the troops of British General Cornwallis were fording what is now known as the Tar River between Rocky Mount and Battleboro when they discovered that tar had been dumped into the stream to impede their crossing. When they finally got across the river they found their feet completely black with tar. Their observation that anyone who waded North Carolina rivers would acquire tar heels led to the nickname first being used.

Others say the nickname was acquired during the War Between the States. During one of that war's fiercest battles a column supporting North Carolina troops was driven from the field. After the battle, the North Carolinians who had successfully fought it out alone, happened to meet the regiment which had fled to safety and were greeted with the question, "Any more tar down in the Old North State, boys?"

"No, not a bit," shot back one of the North Carolina soldiers. "Old Jeff's bought it all up," he went on, referring to Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederacy. "Is that so? What's he going to do with it?" "He's going to put it on you'ns heels to make you stick better in the next fight." Upon hearing of the incident, Robert E. Lee smiled and said to a fellow officer, "God bless the Tar Heel boys."

A letter found in 1991 by State Archivist David Olson lends credence to another more direct theory. A letter from Maj. Joseph Engelhard describes a fight involving men from North Carolina in which Lee was heard to have said, "There they stand as if they have tar on their heels."
The letter, dated August 24, 1864, told the tale of a battle on the outskirts of Petersburg, Va. Engelhard was elected secretary of state for North Carolina in 1876.
LINK:
http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205498279