New coach if Capel is fired today

[Duneaux Harm]

Man, unless there is someone on his staff that has expressed disagreement with Capel’s methods to Heather how could you let anyone of them be the interim coach until you have a chance to vett and hire a coach. If he is fired now your only hire can be someone who isn’t currently coaching, I would presume.

I know I could look it up, but can anyone think of a situation where the head coach was let go and a school hired a guy not on staff to replace them in the same season?

There are only six day windows between a few games this year in which you could garner some time.

Seriously this is such a mess. My daughter called it “The Hot Mess Express”, when I texted her about what all was going on.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Is Capel fired yet? You'd expect it would be happening soon if not already, with his dismal, totally unacceptable performance over the past few years. Now this year with losing recruits and abysmal results.

If we don't win at least 8 games in the OOC schedule, he should be gone at that point. I don't even want to know what WVU will do to us. Maybe Huggins will have mercy on us and not beat us by more than 30.

 

[TD_6082]

Man, unless there is someone on his staff that has expressed disagreement with Capel’s methods to Heather how could you let anyone of them be the interim coach until you have a chance to vett and hire a coach. If he is fired now your only hire can be someone who isn’t currently coaching, I would presume.

I know I could look it up, but can anyone think of a situation where the head coach was let go and a school hired a guy not on staff to replace them in the same season?

There are only six day windows between a few games this year in which you could garner some time.

Seriously this is such a mess. My daughter called it “The Hot Mess Express”, when I texted her about what all was going on.

Why?

Why would you even consider firing Capel during the season? And what could you possibly hope to achieve by brining in someone from the outside as interim, unless it's to make an already bad situation much worse?

Florida fired Norm Sloan right before a season (after practice had started) due to NCAA violations & replaced him with an outside interim for the year. As you can guess, it was a total trainwreck. I can't think of any other examples.

 

[Duneaux Harm]

Why?

Why would you even consider firing Capel during the season? And what could you possibly hope to achieve by brining in someone from the outside as interim, unless it's to make an already bad situation much worse?

Florida fired Norm Sloan right before a season (after practice had started) due to NCAA violations & replaced him with an outside interim for the year. As you can guess, it was a total trainwreck. I can't think of any other examples.

Let’s be realistic here, if you are firing your coach mid season the team is likely to be a total train wreck regardless of who took over. UCLA fired Alford in 2018 when his record was about 500 and the interim guy took over and kept it at 500. A lot of the other teams maintained about the same winning percentage from fired guy to interim guy.

The clear advantage of firing mid season is that the job is known to be open and you can take your time interviewing.

 

[gary2]

Firing now might be part of a case for firing for cause

A “It was so bad, we were forced to act”.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Let’s be realistic here, if you are firing your coach mid season the team is likely to be a total train wreck regardless of who took over. UCLA fired Alford in 2018 when his record was about 500 and the interim guy took over and kept it at 500. A lot of the other teams maintained about the same winning percentage from fired guy to interim guy.

The clear advantage of firing mid season is that the job is known to be open and you can take your time interviewing.

It won't make any difference if he was fired now or at the end of the season. If he stays, we'll still be pathetically awful and maybe win 6 or 8 games total. An interim coach can do that too, and we can begin a search for a new coach and let coaches know we are doing just that before the end of the season. But Capel's string is now gone and he needs to be cut loose. Hopefully, for cause (toxic environment and incompetence).

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Man, unless there is someone on his staff that has expressed disagreement with Capel’s methods to Heather how could you let anyone of them be the interim coach until you have a chance to vett and hire a coach. If he is fired now your only hire can be someone who isn’t currently coaching, I would presume.

I know I could look it up, but can anyone think of a situation where the head coach was let go and a school hired a guy not on staff to replace them in the same season?

There are only six day windows between a few games this year in which you could garner some time.

Seriously this is such a mess. My daughter called it “The Hot Mess Express”, when I texted her about what all was going on.

It would be Milan Brown punching the clock until they get knocked out of the ACCT. The only examples I can think of where a current assistant didn't take over where Brian Kelly and Barry Alvarez coaching bowl games. Kelly was new to Cincy and Alvarez was filling in for Bielema who just left and those examples dont really apply.

Hypothetically, if you did hire an out of work coach (hint, hint), he could start immediately but I highly doubt he'd want to. The only reason that a coach like that may want to start immediately would be to build a rapport with Femi and Hugley so they stay but I still highly highly doubt they'd opt to do that. They'd probably prefer spending all their time on recruiting and staff building

 

[TD_6082]

Let’s be realistic here, if you are firing your coach mid season the team is likely to be a total train wreck regardless of who took over. UCLA fired Alford in 2018 when his record was about 500 and the interim guy took over and kept it at 500. A lot of the other teams maintained about the same winning percentage from fired guy to interim guy.

The clear advantage of firing mid season is that the job is known to be open and you can take your time interviewing.

Funny you mention the UCLA situation. UCLA replaced Alford with a Murray Bartow, who was already on staff as an assistant, and had many years of head coaching experience. His dad, Gene Bartow, was the guy that succeeded John Wooden at UCLA.

Funny thing about Murray Bartow, he was also on staff at USF when Antigua was fired midseason and finished out the season there as an interim.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Firing now might be part of a case for firing for cause

A “It was so bad, we were forced to act”.

Keep dreaming up scenarios for cause and try that route again. I’m sure that will do nothing but expand your candidate pool.

It’s gonna be hard enough to attract quality candidates. Take your head out of your backside.

 

[gary2]

Keep dreaming up scenarios for cause and try that route again. I’m sure that will do nothing but expand your candidate pool.

It’s gonna be hard enough to attract quality candidates. Take your head out of your backside.

Someone on the pay side said Paul Zeise mentioned it in his mailbag.

I took a quick look and did not see anything.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Someone on the pay side said Paul Zeise mentioned it in his mailbag.

I took a quick look and did not see anything.

If there are real reasons sure. It’s a quick and easy way out. But even the Stallings things, as much as I couldn’t stand him, felt a little ginned up. Do it again and a lot of coaches are gonna see their contracts here aren’t being honored in good faith.

 

[gary2]

If there are real reasons sure. It’s a quick and easy way out. But even the Stallings things, as much as I couldn’t stand him, felt a little ginned up. Do it again and a lot of coaches are gonna see their contracts here aren’t being honored in good faith.

You are probably right.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Is Capel fired yet? You'd expect it would be happening soon if not already, with his dismal, totally unacceptable performance over the past few years.

Actually there is no real reason at all to expect that he is going to get fired anytime soon. Unless there are some major violations uncovered or some big scandal breaks, that simply is not the way that things are done in college athletics.

Which I am pretty sure you already know.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Actually there is no real reason at all to expect that he is going to get fired anytime soon. Unless there are some major violations uncovered or some big scandal breaks, that simply is not the way that things are done in college athletics.

Which I am pretty sure you already know.

Yes, I know that. I was being very tongue in cheek with my statement. Unfortunately, we are stuck with this guy until something egregious happens or his contract ends. Or someone wants to buy it out.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Actually there is no real reason at all to expect that he is going to get fired anytime soon. Unless there are some major violations uncovered or some big scandal breaks, that simply is not the way that things are done in college athletics.

Which I am pretty sure you already know.

Correct. But we will start 0-9 if we dont beat UNCW, Towson, and UMBC so at that point.

I do think we go 2-1 in those 3