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New Temple Football Stadium = 35k seating at 100 million

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- So let's just say that Pitt goes all in for 50K at $150,000,000 million.
- Pitt builds on the OC Lot next to Trees, Cost Center & Pete - www.newpittstadium.com
- Pitt floats a municipal bond at $250,000,000 at 4% to match the recent Pitt Muni Bond at 250M that came due - and many of us owned.
- Or we ask Pitt Grad / Alumnus David Tepper to finance the entire New Pitt Stadium with his 13 BILLION dollars.

PLEASE READ AND REALIZE THAT WHAT EASTERN PA GETS SO DOES WESTERN PA.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._goal__35_000-seat___100_million_stadium.html
 
Z #2 said:
- So let's just say that Pitt goes all in for 50K at $150,000,000 million.
- Pitt builds on the OC Lot next to Trees, Cost Center & Pete - www.newpittstadium.com
- Pitt floats a municipal bond at $250,000,000 at 4% to match the recent Pitt Muni Bond at 250M that came due - and many of us owned.
- Or we ask Pitt Grad / Alumnus David Tepper to finance the entire New Pitt Stadium with his 13 BILLION dollars.

PLEASE READ AND REALIZE THAT WHAT EASTERN PA GETS SO DOES WESTERN PA.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._goal__35_000-seat___100_million_stadium.html
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Ridiculous. Horrible location, worsens parking & traffic woes....and would cost much more than $150 million. Try some crowdfunding to pay your tuition....this mess ain't gonna fly.
 
Got to agree with NTOP, not feeling that location. It's a mess up there now, roads blocked off for the last 5 years, VA hospital, one way in and out.. We can do better than this..
 
You know, most newly, quickly constructed college stadiums, save Baylor's and Louisville's fields, are crumby anyway. Something that houses 45K to 55K done on the cheap will be especially crumby. If/When Pitt does build a new stadium, I'd like something that costs at least $250M to $300M... If they're going to do it, I'd model it after the new Minnesota Gophers place. Reasonable size and seems well done. I do not want some half-assed piece of crap with bleachers. Otherwise, aside from not being able to fill, why leave Heinz?
 
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Let me fast forward to the ending here.

Temple is GOING to build an on-campus stadium on a campus that is equally as crowded as Pitt's. They happened to acquire land just as Pitt could. People think land acquisition is some impossible thing.

Once Temple shows how you can build a $100 million stadium in Philadelphia and Robert Morris shows how a tiny commuter school with no fans can build a $50 million basketball arena, enough people will realize that raising $300 million for land acquisition/demolition/construction is feasible for a university as rich and with as many rich donors as Pitt.

People, we are getting a new stadium. Gallagher and Barnes know the importance of it.
 
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Let me fast forward to the ending here.

Temple is GOING to build an on-campus stadium on a campus that is equally as crowded as Pitt's. They happened to acquire land just as Pitt could. People think land acquisition is some impossible thing.

Once Temple shows how you can build a $100 million stadium in Philadelphia and Robert Morris shows how a tiny commuter school with no fans can build a $50 million basketball arena, enough people will realize that raising $300 million for land acquisition/demolition/construction is feasible for a university as rich and with as many rich donors as Pitt.

People, we are getting a new stadium. Gallagher and Barnes know the importance of it.
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Like I said, if/when it happens, it better be decent. I don't want some piece of crap like Tulane, UCF, whatever they're proposing at Temple, etc. If you're gonna do it, follow the example of Minnesota, Louisville, Baylor, Stanford, etc.
 
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Let me fast forward to the ending here.

Temple is GOING to build an on-campus stadium on a campus that is equally as crowded as Pitt's. They happened to acquire land just as Pitt could. People think land acquisition is some impossible thing.

Once Temple shows how you can build a $100 million stadium in Philadelphia and Robert Morris shows how a tiny commuter school with no fans can build a $50 million basketball arena, enough people will realize that raising $300 million for land acquisition/demolition/construction is feasible for a university as rich and with as many rich donors as Pitt.

People, we are getting a new stadium. Gallagher and Barnes know the importance of it.
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Yep, we will get a new stadium…just as soon as the RAD decides to build a new one for the Steelers.

Please stop this ridiculous noise.
 
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JohnnyGossamer said:
Like I said, if/when it happens, it better be decent. I don't want some piece of crap like Tulane, UCF, whatever they're proposing at Temple, etc. If you're gonna do it, follow the example of Minnesota, Louisville, Baylor, Stanford, etc.
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Temple's will be cheapo like Tulane's or UCF's. If we build one, it has to be first class like Stanford or Baylor or else I dont want one.

Be sure, though, Temple isnt going to have an on campus stadium without us having one.
 
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Temple's will be cheapo like Tulane's or UCF's. If we build one, it has to be first class like Stanford or Baylor or else I dont want one.

Be sure, though, Temple isnt going to have an on campus stadium without us having one.
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We're on the same page here. I actually think the Minnesota model best suits Pitt given the weather is similar in Minneapolis and the Gophers shared the Vikings stadium for years before constructing their own.
 
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Let me understand this.

Temple wants to build a 35,000 seat new stadium. In 2015 Temple will have two sell out (70,000 fans) games at the Linc (Penn State and Notre Dame). So in the future ( withTemples new stadium), if Temple has the opportunity for additional sell out games (70,000) will they go to the Linc. or give up on selling the 35,000 additional tickets.

Maybe, Pitt should just Tarp Heinz down to 50,000 or so and remove the tarps (approx 68,000 seats) when they play Notre Dame,PSU, WVU and maybe Florida State.

With the Bars, Restaurants, Casino, Tailgating and Club Seating, the North Shore is becoming a fun place before and after the 6 or 7 Pitt home games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Let me fast forward to the ending here.

Temple is GOING to build an on-campus stadium on a campus that is equally as crowded as Pitt's. They happened to acquire land just as Pitt could. People think land acquisition is some impossible thing.

Once Temple shows how you can build a $100 million stadium in Philadelphia and Robert Morris shows how a tiny commuter school with no fans can build a $50 million basketball arena, enough people will realize that raising $300 million for land acquisition/demolition/construction is feasible for a university as rich and with as many rich donors as Pitt.

People, we are getting a new stadium. Gallagher and Barnes know the importance of it.
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Uhhh.......just where has Temple BOUGHT the land?? If it's close to their campus.....that area makes So. Oakland look like Sewickley Heights. And there's simply NO WAY a decent stadium can be built for $100 large in a big, eastern city rife with corruption. Gallagher has said that the numbers don't work.....and he's right. Not happening, ever. They COULD put a small place down the hill from Oakland....but infrastructure will always be a problem.. and if the state kicks in big $$$ with all the tax cuts Wolf wants.....they'd be crazy. The Philly legislators don't wield the same power as previously. If they try to balance things by tossing $$$ to Pgh, it'll be fore the CA developmant, not a venue used a few dayd/year.
 
Z #2 said:
- So let's just say that Pitt goes all in for 50K at $150,000,000 million.
- Pitt builds on the OC Lot next to Trees, Cost Center & Pete - www.newpittstadium.com
- Pitt floats a municipal bond at $250,000,000 at 4% to match the recent Pitt Muni Bond at 250M that came due - and many of us owned.
- Or we ask Pitt Grad / Alumnus David Tepper to finance the entire New Pitt Stadium with his 13 BILLION dollars.

PLEASE READ AND REALIZE THAT WHAT EASTERN PA GETS SO DOES WESTERN PA.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._goal__35_000-seat___100_million_stadium.html
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You've been on crack too long.
 
NTOP said:
Ridiculous. Horrible location, worsens parking & traffic woes....and would cost much more than $150 million. Try some crowdfunding to pay your tuition....this mess ain't gonna fly.
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parking, traffic- come on , NTOP, get with the program! Those are old lady concerns. While that might not be the best location choice, this stadium thing on campus can be done.
 
NTOP said:
Uhhh.......just where has Temple BOUGHT the land?? If it's close to their campus.....that area makes So. Oakland look like Sewickley Heights. And there's simply NO WAY a decent stadium can be built for $100 large in a big, eastern city rife with corruption. Gallagher has said that the numbers don't work.....and he's right. Not happening, ever. They COULD put a small place down the hill from Oakland....but infrastructure will always be a problem.. and if the state kicks in big $$$ with all the tax cuts Wolf wants.....they'd be crazy. The Philly legislators don't wield the same power as previously. If they try to balance things by tossing $$$ to Pgh, it'll be fore the CA developmant, not a venue used a few dayd/year.
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Rutgers added only about 10,000 seats to their stadium for about $110 million.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Delpanther said:
parking, traffic- come on , NTOP, get with the program! Those are old lady concerns. While that might not be the best location choice, this stadium thing on campus can be done.
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Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, if not, I agree, traffic and parking are old lady concerns.. With that said, this location is brutal, absolutely brutal for traffic. I mean, waiting to get home from a venue is one thing but not being able to get to it all all is another..
 
Pghfan said:
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, if not, I agree, traffic and parking are old lady concerns.. With that said, this location is brutal, absolutely brutal for traffic. I mean, waiting to get home from a venue is one thing but not being able to get to it all all is another..
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I was just pulling NTOP's leg a bit. I have no specific feelings about this or any other location but I know 2 things: constructing a stadium on or near Pitt's campus will always create parking and traffic issues and guess what- that's the case for nearly every college stadium in the U S-these are niggling naysayer reactions; and second, building a stadium on or near Pitt's campus is doable and will be done at some point-my belief- it will happen when Pitt's on the field success forces all the naysayers underground.
 
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Uhhh.......just where has Temple BOUGHT the land??
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Temple recently acquired the closed William Penn High School site across the street from the southern end of campus from the School District of Philadelphia, and is planning to relocate existing recreational and non-revenue sport facilities (now located adjacent to the Liacouras Center) to that site, freeing up the resulting space for stadium construction.
 
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I was just pulling NTOP's leg a bit. I have no specific feelings about this or any other location but I know 2 things: constructing a stadium on or near Pitt's campus will always create parking and traffic issues and guess what- that's the case for nearly every college stadium in the U S-these are niggling naysayer reactions; and second, building a stadium on or near Pitt's campus is doable and will be done at some point-my belief- it will happen when Pitt's on the field success forces all the naysayers underground.
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Maybe, Pitt's future on field success will allow Pitt to increase average home attendance to near 60,000 at Heinz.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Panthergrowl13 said:
Maybe, Pitt's future on field success will allow Pitt to increase average home attendance to near 60,000 at Heinz.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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Hopefully, but Heinz will never ever duplicate the atmosphere of an on campus stadium no matter how many people attend a game there.
 
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TempleBAPittMPA said:
Temple recently acquired the closed William Penn High School site across the street from the southern end of campus from the School District of Philadelphia, and is planning to relocate existing recreational and non-revenue sport facilities (now located adjacent to the Liacouras Center) to that site, freeing up the resulting space for stadium construction.
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OK....so the land is there. Good for them. I hope Temple pulls this off.....but the price tag will be interesting. Cinci just spent $86 large on Nippert Stadium....added only 5,000 seats. Their footprint is tiny, though.
Delpanther said:
I was just pulling NTOP's leg a bit. I have no specific feelings about this or any other location but I know 2 things: constructing a stadium on or near Pitt's campus will always create parking and traffic issues and guess what- that's the case for nearly every college stadium in the U S-these are niggling naysayer reactions; and second, building a stadium on or near Pitt's campus is doable and will be done at some point-my belief- it will happen when Pitt's on the field success forces all the naysayers underground.
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It's a topography problem, too. If they built a stadium on the OC lot, the entire upper campus would shift in a landslide to Panther Hollow, taking the VA & COL with it....plus, the 45 food trucks on the Plaza. And you'd blame Nutting!! ;)
 
Delpanther said:
Jo

Hopefully, but Heinz will never ever duplicate the atmosphere of an on campus stadium no matter how many people attend a game there.
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Gee, you're sounding like NTOP, circa 1998. We agree.
 
A poster on here, probably Paco, talked about infrastructure issues with the construction of VA hospital... Think I recall mines underneath or something to that effect, causing very big issues.. My solution, quit building these boring ass hotels all over south Oakland. Build the hotels in e. liberty or some slum neighborhood east of Oakland and save the Oakland real estate for more important things, like sports venues..

And bring back Zelda's for chrissakes, kids need cheap beer with a roof that opens and they need it on campus..
 
The mistake Pitt made was building The Pete, they should have built a Carrier Dome-like structure on the site of old Pitt Stadium, it could have had 40,000 seats and been for football and basketball. Maybe they could have had some kind of openings on the side to let some cool autumn air in for the obsessive compulsives who demand outdoor football. This idea really makes sense, but it's too late now.
 
At least Tarp Heinz and see how it goes first and then with the money you save spend on the Coaching Staff and well....dancers.....
 
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Pitt79 said:
The mistake Pitt made was building The Pete, they should have built a Carrier Dome-like structure on the site of old Pitt Stadium, it could have had 40,000 seats and been for football and basketball. Maybe they could have had some kind of openings on the side to let some cool autumn air in for the obsessive compulsives who demand outdoor football. This idea really makes sense, but it's too late now.
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A multi sport facility was discussed, don't know details but this option was definitely on the table. Not sure how serious it was taken..
 
NTOP said:
Ridiculous. Horrible location, worsens parking & traffic woes....and would cost much more than $150 million. Try some crowdfunding to pay your tuition....this mess ain't gonna fly.
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LOLOLOL....not an intelligent response. BUT rather funny.
 
Pghfan said:
Got to agree with NTOP, not feeling that location. It's a mess up there now, roads blocked off for the last 5 years, VA hospital, one way in and out.. We can do better than this..
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Unfortunately, you don't have a "better" answer. THIS IS THE BETTER WAY TO GO. BUT, you aren't a city planner nor an architect so therefore, you are wrong. Sorry.
 
Pitt79 said:
The mistake Pitt made was building The Pete, they should have built a Carrier Dome-like structure on the site of old Pitt Stadium, it could have had 40,000 seats and been for football and basketball. Maybe they could have had some kind of openings on the side to let some cool autumn air in for the obsessive compulsives who demand outdoor football. This idea really makes sense, but it's too late now.
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Had I been in charge at my other alma mater, that's exactly what would have been done when the Liacouras Center was being built.
 
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eastcoasthoops said:
Yep, we will get a new stadium…just as soon as the RAD decides to build a new one for the Steelers.

Please stop this ridiculous noise.
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Hoops is not the cash cow. Football is. Noise? Please refrain from making it.
 
TempleBAPittMPA said:
Had I been in charge at my other alma mater, that's exactly what would have been done when the Liacouras Center was being built.
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It makes sense, about 40,000 seats is the right size for Pitt football, if you wanted 65,000 fans for say ND or Penn State you could still hold an occasional game at Heinz Field. And maybe sometimes, you might even get 20-30K to show up for a big basketball game vs. Duke or 'Cuse even.
 
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Pitt79 said:
The mistake Pitt made was building The Pete, they should have built a Carrier Dome-like structure on the site of old Pitt Stadium, it could have had 40,000 seats and been for football and basketball. Maybe they could have had some kind of openings on the side to let some cool autumn air in for the obsessive compulsives who demand outdoor football. This idea really makes sense, but it's too late now.
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www.newpittstadium.com

79, it's already been planned by GSPIA. The photo of the New Pitt Stadium design drawing from this plan (Thanks to Crazy Paco who I believe has the entire plan) illustrates that building the New Stadium on the OC LOT site not only fits, but it creates the footprint for all of Pitt Athletics moving forward into the next half century.
 
Save the stadium money for paying the HC and Staff.

What if Jackie Sherill had stayed at Pitt for 25 years or more.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
JohnnyGossamer said:
You know, most newly, quickly constructed college stadiums, save Baylor's and Louisville's fields, are crumby anyway. Something that houses 45K to 55K done on the cheap will be especially crumby. If/When Pitt does build a new stadium, I'd like something that costs at least $250M to $300M... If they're going to do it, I'd model it after the new Minnesota Gophers place. Reasonable size and seems well done. I do not want some half-assed piece of crap with bleachers. Otherwise, aside from not being able to fill, why leave Heinz?
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Agreed. Go to the link and you'll see the plan and Minnesota's as well.

www.newpittstadium.com
 
Are you getting a per-click royalty on that horrible website or something? You plug it endlessly on these boards.
 
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is that website serious? I mean, did someone get paid to put that together or was this just someone at home with an hour or two to kill.. This wasn't done as a legit project was it?
 
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