I think we would have a better record if Nick was our leader all year. What a difference.
Nick should have been our QB all year
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You may be right. Nick could run the ball and he was a better leader.
We might’ve been 8-4 but it would’ve been a more fun and enjoyable season. He’s a true Pitt guy and can tell his teammates had his back. Loved the effort they put in this week to make sure he went out on top.
I was out on Slovis the second I saw his body language in the locker room in the livewire where Izzy broke TDs rushing record
I was out on Slovis the second I saw his body language in the locker room in the livewire where Izzy broke TDs rushing record
Well, maybe, we’ll never know, but we do know that nick is not coming back next year, I think yarnell should have played more,, that’s my opinion, he sis well the short time he was in
I think if Narduzzi and Cignetti had honestly believed that Patti was the better option from what they saw every day in practice, they would have played him over Slovis without hesitation.
But sometimes the less talented thrower just does a better job of moving the team down the field and winning games. Patti is borderline D1 in terms of arm talent but seems to have the intangibles and leadership in spades. If anything, maybe the coaches should’ve given Patti more meaningful game reps to see who was more effective at moving the ball down the field under equal conditions. Of course Patti was hurt a lot too, which probably made that hard to do. And platooning QBs like that can shake the confidence of the starter. It’s a delicate dance for the coaches.
Here's the thing. If you judge it by practice, Slovis is the better QB because he throws a better ball.....when given time to do it and players are open. But Patti is a better college QB for Pitt. Because things arent going to be perfect. The pocket will collapse, guys arent always going to be open, and he's going to have to improvise and extend plays. For a team with Pitt-level talent, a QB like Slovis is the worst thing you could have.
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Patti completed less than 50% of his throws against the #121 ranked team in passing defense out of 131 teams...
I'll take Slovis.
I could swear half the board wanted Patti benched in the first half.
He does, but based on his comments before and after the bowl game, I think he’s considering transferring to play, or moving on with life.
You may be correct but that stat in one game is a pretty poor criteria to base it on. I think I can remember at least 5 throws off the top of my head where he just threw it out of bounds or out of end zone to avoid a sack. There of course was the one Wayne drop on a perfect throw and sure TD. Don’t recall if there were any other blatant drops.
And, more importantly, I don’t remember many where he blatantly missed an open target while not under pressure. Maybe you could consider the one pick six in that category but that’s debatable.
Tennessee has the 128th ranked pass defense and Patti completed 9/20 against them as well.
Wasn’t the Tenn game where he got hurt and could hardly walk but kept playing?
I’m having deja vu to when Chad Voytik lit it up with his wheels in the Motor City Bowl.
He was 4 for 10 for 29 yards before the injury. Someone order a Heisman recount.
I'm super happy for Patti getting to produce a legendary moment to cap this season. That will be what everyone remembers him for, and that's awesome.
But let's not cloud our judgement here. He's a gamer, and guys love him, but his numbers are what they are. If he had started all year, we are in no better of a a spot.
But let's not cloud our judgement here. He's a gamer, and guys love him, but his numbers are what they are. If he had started all year, we are in no better of a a spot.
Seems kind of stupid to give up 1 year of free tuition, food, and housing, not to mention if he really doesnt care about playing, he could go be a 3rd stringer somewhere where all players make a 25K-30K salary which may be going up next year. I think that's why Beville transferred to OU.
I’m curious what numbers you’re referring to? He threw a whole 61 passes this year. Not a lot to make any concrete conclusions from.
He’s a totally different style QB than Slovis and has a totally different demeanor on the field than him.
No one’s claiming he’s the next Heisman or that he’s definitely better than Slovis. But unless because of injury/health preventing it, sure would have been nice to see what he could have done when our offense was struggling earlier in the year.
First of all, he’s in grad school already. But beyond that, What the hell makes you think one of those kinds of programs would want to invest a scholarship and 30k of NIL money on a career backup with one year of eligibility from Pitt. Jesus dude use your head. And Pitt bringing in not one but two transfer QBs tells Patti one thing: it’s been nice knowing you, don’t let the doorknob hit you in the ass.
I don’t follow what you’re saying. Post said his numbers are what they are, I’m assuming he’s meaning that they’re nothing special so Pitt wouldn’t have been any better.
I’m saying with only 61 passes thrown all year, 41 yesterday and 20 in one other game where he was hurt, there aren’t enough numbers out there to make any conclusions one way or the other.
This.
I think there is something to be said for the intangibles Patti brings to the table. But at the end of the day, Patti struggles with accuracy and he doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field. He's just not P5 starter material. If he were, he would have hit the portal the day Pitt brought Slovis on board.
Who cares Patti was a huge reason we won this game give him some props
He also ran for 72 yards, many which were huge plays, and avoided several sacks in critical situations.
Sorry, no way Pitt wins that game with Slovis. You're being overly harsh and ignoring everything else Nick brought to the table. Dude played his ass off.
Patti was also the reason that Jared Wayne played in the bowl game, per the announcers.
I 100% agree with this too.
But big picture, as for which QB you hitch your wagon to for entire season, I think you have to go with Slovis, due to his ability to stretch the field and better accuracy. His deficiencies are things most coaches feel they can work on and improve. But I totally agree with you about yesterday's game. I don't think Pitt wins with Slovis.
Duke and UNC have lowly ranked pass defenses and Slovis was < 50% against them. The offensive system hasn't good enough, but Patti is CLEARLY the better college QB. This team could have gone 10-2.
Teams need 3rd and 4th string QBs and many of them pay base salaries to everyone......like Davis Beville. Do not tell me that Patti cant be a 3rd or 4th stringer somewhere and make a 30K salary. Of course he could.
We absolutely beat GT and Lou with Patti due to his legs and improvisation. While I'd like to say he'd have cost us a game or 2, against who? The schedule was weak. WVU? Maybe?
That's baloney. I was at many summer practices and I stated that Patti looked like a better qb over the summer. I was tore apart by this board and stopped posting. Patti was the better qb but we got screwed by nil promises. A side note, Konata looked a lot better with a qb that looks to his second option during the bowl game. Konata will have a big season next year. HAILTOPITT!
He will not be a Panther next year. Let's wish him the best of luck. Phil has it. It will be a great season. HAILTOPITT!
No he couldn’t. No program that’s significant enough to be handing out 30k of NIL candy to every player would invest that money and a scholarship in a career backup with 1 year of eligibility to be a 3rd stringer. He could realistically transfer down to a lesser level program-as in a lower tier MAC team—and possibly have a shot to start. No NIL money. That’s his best case scenario.
Honest question. What are nil promises, how do they work, and how can they be avoided?
The OP’s post said the record would be better if Patti starts this year. Meaning Patti is a better QB.
Gotcha, wasn’t sure if you were referring to the thread’s OP or the post I was replying to, which had the opposite viewpoint on Patti. There’s a good bit of back n forth in this thread debating whether Patti would have resulted in any improvement, whether he’s better or worse than Slovis, etc.
My perspective, I just would have liked to have seen him get an opportunity in relief during one of those WTF loss games where our offense was struggling.
Agree. We have no idea how he would have done, and that is the issue. Why was he not given a chance - there were plenty of times that the offense needed a spark, and he could have provided one. The coaches are at fault for not allowing him to show what he could do.
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