NIL

[Sean Miller Fan]

I am being a bit sarcastic and I have said this before but Pitt needs to make season tickets $1 + a $499 donation to A412. I believe that currently, this is not allowed per NCAA rules but #1 that's going to be changing and #2, what's the NCAA going to do if we do this?

While this season may not be a great example of this because I believe Narduzzi (partly due to the Bell hire) has done one heck of a coaching job, players do win games in my opinion. Give me better players over better coaches or better weights, or better nutrionists, or better analysts. So how does a pro football team get better players? You have to pay them what they are asking for. So, if I were running Pitt football, I'd come up with a player salary number that would put us in the top third of the ACC and then reverse engineer that. Lets say that's $20 million. How can we pay the players $20 million? Well 20K season tickets (not sure what the number is) times $500 A412 is $10 million. Then you have to make up the other $10 million through general fundraising which should be helped by the (fingers crossed) elimination of the Panther Club.

The next question is what are we going to do without making any money on tickets? Well, trim staff, for one. Pay assistants less. Dont stay in a hotel on the night before home games. Dont stay in a South Side hotel during training camp. You make cuts like this. Are any of these good things? No. But if it came down to it, would you as a fan rather the team stayed in hotels during training camp and before home games if it meant we couldn't afford to keep Player X? Or, lets say, the choice next year is to either keep Kyle Louis but you have to hire a cheap LB coach from Youngstown State or you keep your current LB coach but you lose Louis to LSU? Which do you pick? I want players. The rest of the stuff, we'll deal with.

 

[President Stache]

My pitch is, just as sometimes guys throw no-hitters while tripping on acid, we're 6-0 in spite of our NIL situation and not because of it. And if we go 9-3 I will probably tell you that we could have made the playoff with better NIL funding.

We also brought in a bunch of guys who were unproven at the FBS level. Holstein, Reid, Lee, Williams, etc. And we're getting good returns from some recruits who didn't garner much interest from other P4 schools: Louis, Lovelace, Brookins, BJ Williams, etc.

It's great that they're working out, but we'll see how cheap they all are next season.

wow... so you are saying scouting matters?

Anyways, still disagree. We are not ever going to be top 30 in NIL money, for the same reason we will never be top 30 in attendance. We are a city school with medium enrollment numbers. I went to undergrad at Duke, we had 3600 total undergrad enrollment (now its around 6k). There is NOOOOOO way we could compete locally with the UNC, NCSt, and the like in football. Basketball is a bit easier... you only have to pay like 5-7 guys alot. As I said previously, I can totally see some small school one year cashing in the chips and making the final 4.

Not difficult to see what is coming down the road. Small schools and large schools will separate. This is like a microeconomic lesson in capitalism. This NIL initiative is uncapped and not controlled. Colleges and businesses can do whatever the heck they want now, and the rich will get rich and the poor will get more poor. Kids like Holstein will be constantly under pressure (if you can call getting offered a ton of money being under pressure) to leave whatever school they are... including the ohio states and alabamas... any school can make big plays for players, and will. Pitt can do the same. But like the Pirates, the only way Pitt will flourish long term is to really .... REALLY scout well. Get the gems, take the chances, know which players are hustlers and grinders, and get em and hope for the best each year.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Can some of you cheap asses start tossing in $20/month? NIL sucks, but it's just the cost for a form of entertainment, just like many of you subscribe to Hustler Magazine for $20/month or spend $20/month on high heels from Payless so you can wear them around the house when your wives are away on business.

20 dollars for high heels to wear around the house when our wives are at work? In this economy? yeah right, try 70 dollar high heels we wear around the house when our wives are at work.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

wow... so you are saying scouting matters?

Anyways, still disagree. We are not ever going to be top 30 in NIL money, for the same reason we will never be top 30 in attendance. We are a city school with medium enrollment numbers. I went to undergrad at Duke, we had 3600 total undergrad enrollment (now its around 6k). There is NOOOOOO way we could compete locally with the UNC, NCSt, and the like in football. Basketball is a bit easier... you only have to pay like 5-7 guys alot. As I said previously, I can totally see some small school one year cashing in the chips and making the final 4.

Not difficult to see what is coming down the road. Small schools and large schools will separate. This is like a microeconomic lesson in capitalism. This NIL initiative is uncapped and not controlled. Colleges and businesses can do whatever the heck they want now, and the rich will get rich and the poor will get more poor. Kids like Holstein will be constantly under pressure (if you can call getting offered a ton of money being under pressure) to leave whatever school they are... including the ohio states and alabamas... any school can make big plays for players, and will. Pitt can do the same. But like the Pirates, the only way Pitt will flourish long term is to really .... REALLY scout well. Get the gems, take the chances, know which players are hustlers and grinders, and get em and hope for the best each year.

I am saying that pulling a rabbit out of your hat like we have this season probably isn't reliably repeatable. Especially as the rosters expand, as they're expected to do.

I'm not suggesting we should be top 30 in NIL; I'm just suggesting it would be nice to more competitive in it until if and when this stuff starts being regulated. It sounds like we're not all that far from being dead last in the P4. And if it never gets regulated, then yeah - I agree we're probably screwed, and I would welcome a split between larger and smaller schools. But we're not there yet, so it'd be nice to do what we can to stay in the fight.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

20 dollars for high heels to wear around the house when our wives are at work? In this economy? yeah right, try 70 dollar high heels we were around the house when our wives are at work.

Boy, you don't know how to shop. Me and the guys hit the Payless clearance racks every Sunday, while everyone else is watching football. You should have seen me jumping up and down after the deal I scored this past week. Sleek black... will go with ANYthing... and a little flatter heel to take some stress off my bunions.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Boy, you don't know how to shop. Me and the guys hit the Payless clearance racks every Sunday, while everyone else is watching football. You should have seen me jumping up and down after the deal I scored this past week. Sleek black... will go with ANYthing... and a little flatter heel to take some stress off my bunions.

yeah but i like to look classy and high status when im alone in my high heels when my wife is at work. not trampy

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

yeah but i like to look classy and high status when im alone in my high heels when my wife is at work. not trampy

Oh well that's another story. I'm going more for a Bev from Howard the Duck look.

Sounds like you're more of a member's wife at a black tie affair at the South Hills Country Club. I'm the chick you find passed out on the 7th green at the South Park 9 hole course.

 

[pittdan77]

No they dont. Uconn cant get into the Big 4. They tried and was denied, even with back to back MB championship.

It's mostly because they aren't running a football program that's worthy of competing in the MAC. But from a competition standpoint, like you pointed out, they're doing fine.

 

[pittdan77]

We should sink it all into volleyball!

Your tears sustain me.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Oh well that's another story. I'm going more for a Bev from Howard the Duck look.

Sounds like you're more of a member's wife at a black tie affair at the South Hills Country Club. I'm the chick you find passed out on the 7th green at the South Park 9 hole course.

you are no lea thompson, especially 80's era Lea thompson. even in howard the duck. btw, i love that there was a sex scene between her and the duck in that movie. i remember watching that as a kid and actually getting turned on. yeah, im in therapy

i miss the 80's.

 

[pittdan77]

you are no lea thompson, especially 80's era Lea thompson. even in howard the duck. btw, i love that there was a sex scene between her and the duck in that movie. i remember watching that as a kid and actually getting turned on. yeah, im in therapy

i miss the 80's.

Most guys that were young teens in the 80's speak fondly of pausing certain scenes from Fast Times, or Ouija, or Blame it on Rio, or Revenge of the Nerds.

Then there's this guy. LOL (not kink shaming, just having a chuckle)

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Most guys that were young teens in the 80's speak fondly of pausing certain scenes from Fast Times, or Ouija, or Blame it on Rio, or Revenge of the Nerds.

Then there's this guy. LOL (not kink shaming, just having a chuckle)

blame it on Rio, great call. That chick was super hot, even michael caine being the other guy didnt ruin it, although it was close..

Im embarrassed to say that i dont know your ouija reference. How about this for a "pausing scene," The young and late (God rest her soul) Kelly Preston in "Mischief." If you dont know the scene, check it out, she bares all..

 

[pittdan77]

blame it on Rio, great call. That chick was super hot, even michael caine being the other guy didnt ruin it, although it was close..

Im embarrassed to say that i dont know your ouija reference. How about this for a "pausing scene," The young and late (God rest her soul) Kelly Preston in "Mischief." If you dont know the scene, check it out, she bares all..

Sorry, was called "Witchboard". Tawny Kitaen at her peak. Uncropped shower scene. Yes, I paused it many times.

I probably saw "Mischief" but I can't remember it. Will have to look it up.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

blame it on Rio, great call. That chick was super hot, even michael caine being the other guy didnt ruin it, although it was close..

Im embarrassed to say that i dont know your ouija reference. How about this for a "pausing scene," The young and late (God rest her soul) Kelly Preston in "Mischief." If you dont know the scene, check it out, she bares all..

Bares it all is a little misleading. Not even Moses could defeat that bush.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Sorry, was called "Witchboard". Tawny Kitaen at her peak. Uncropped shower scene. Yes, I paused it many times.

I probably saw "Mischief" but I can't remember it. Will have to look it up.

feel like the group shower scenes died off after the 80s. Stripes and Porky's both epic and memorable scenes and sadly you just dont see that anymore.

hollywood sucks

 

[pittdan77]

Bares it all is a little misleading. Not even Moses could defeat that bush.

Different time, my friend.

 

[pittdan77]

feel like the group shower scenes died off after the 80s. Stripes and Porky's both epic and memorable scenes and sadly you just dont see that anymore.

hollywood sucks

I kind of miss the days when gratuitous nudity in slapstick movies was okay. I guess it's just not needed, now. Teen boys don't have to hid their Playboy's. They just have to know how to use incognito mode and make sure their browsing history is clear.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

how in the hell did an NIL thread about shaming pitt fans to donate more, get hijacked into an 80's gratuitous sex scenes thread?


you guys are weird.

 

[pittdan77]

how in the hell did an NIL thread about shaming pitt fans to donate more, get hijacked into an 80's gratuitous sex scenes thread?


you guys are weird.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP HOWARD THE DUCK RAILING LEA THOMPSON

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP HOWARD THE DUCK RAILING LEA THOMPSON

valid point..

 

[pittdan77]

valid point..

We're both the right kind of degenerate.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Peak's post says we have 700 members. How is it even possible to have so few? There has to be at least 75k pretty hardcore Pitt fans.

There isn't.

 

[PittPharm2002]

There isn't.

There are a legit 15-20k “hardcore “ fans -
Meaning attends home and most road games .
The road travel fans are terrific folks who are a great time .

But , I suspect similar to myself - they prefer to give to Pitt directly , not some “alliance”.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

There are a legit 15-20k “hardcore “ fans -
Meaning attends home and most road games .
The road travel fans are terrific folks who are a great time .

But , I suspect similar to myself - they prefer to give to Pitt directly , not some “alliance”.

Do you buy any pro tickets? Do you realize a portion of that money goes towards player salaries?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Do you buy any pro tickets? Do you realize a portion of that money goes towards player salaries?

Pro tickets don’t require a donation
Pitt is free to use my required donation and ticket revenue to pay players as well .
Your analogy is stupid.

Let’s remove the tax exemption from schools too .

 

[CrazyPaco]

Pro tickets don’t require a donation
Pitt is free to use my required donation and ticket revenue to pay players as well .
Your analogy is stupid.

Let’s remove the tax exemption from schools too .

Yet that has been untrue up until this point, as the university cannot yet pay players itself. Final hearing on the court case is set for April 7, 2025.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Yet that has been untrue up until this point, as the university cannot yet pay players itself. Final hearing on the court case is set for April 7, 2025.

And as noted - I’m not interested in paying them with my wallet

 

[CrazyPaco]

And as noted - I’m not interested in paying them with my wallet

Yet your prior post purported something that has not yet been possible for the university to do. So your response, was, stupid.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Yet your prior post purported something that has not yet been possible for the university to do. So your response, was, stupid.

As was the analogy to buying pro tickets being the same as donating to NIL to which I replied .
But thanks for adding nothing

 

[CrazyPaco]

As was the analogy to buying pro tickets being the same as donating to NIL to which I replied .
But thanks for adding nothing

I guess I'll just quote your addition of nothingness back to you.

"Pitt is free to use my required donation and ticket revenue to pay players as well ."

 

[PittPharm2002]

I guess I'll just quote your addition of nothingness back to you.

"Pitt is free to use my required donation and ticket revenue to pay players as well ."

The millionaire coaches can fund alliance 412 .
Problem solved

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Pro tickets don’t require a donation
Pitt is free to use my required donation and ticket revenue to pay players as well .
Your analogy is stupid.

Let’s remove the tax exemption from schools too .

Would you buy Pitt tickets if a large portion of the purchase was directed to A412? I dont mean that the total ticket cost would be any more than it is now but that if they took like 75% of what you pay and send it to A412 to pay player salaries.

 

[CrazyPaco]

The millionaire coaches can fund alliance 412 .
Problem solved

Yes, keep deflecting from your idiotic response with more idiotic responses.