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When you go away to school, it becomes your home and your friends become your family. It is it's own community and kids remember their four years there as the greatest times of their lives because in most cases it is the first time they have been on their own and away from their family.

Pitt is mostly commuter and hometown kids so there is none of what I typed above. Yes, there are many others that come from other places and stay the four years, but not as many as the other schools like PSU, OSU, WVU, etc.

Absolutely. I have mentioned this before. Part of the charm of college football Saturdays is when the alumni come back to town each weekend reliving memories. When you are a commuter, those memories are more of a traffic/parking nightmare. Plus, you lose something, the attachment as a commuter versus a resident student.
 
If that is the definition of a terrible fan, then you must apply that to everything. You must be a terrible parent if you skip one of your kids games. If you don't go to every class, you must be a terrible student. If you don't go to every church session you are a terrible Christian. If you miss a day of work you must be a terrible employee. If you live in California or Texas or overseas, how the hell are you supposed to go to all the home games? I live two hours away and I buy season tickets every year, but cannot make all the games. I am no less of a fan than someone who goes to every game.

I lived in Texas for five years and missed every Pitt home game, hard to get leave just to attend a Pitt game in Pittsburgh. I did get to see them play at Texas though.

You are a terrible fan when you don't go to home games
 
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If that is the definition of a terrible fan, then you must apply that to everything. You must be a terrible parent if you skip one of your kids games. If you don't go to every class, you must be a terrible student. If you don't go to every church session you are a terrible Christian. If you miss a day of work you must be a terrible employee. If you live in California or Texas or overseas, how the hell are you supposed to go to all the home games? I live two hours away and I buy season tickets every year, but cannot make all the games. I am no less of a fan than someone who goes to every game.

I lived in Texas for five years and missed every Pitt home game, hard to get leave just to attend a Pitt game in Pittsburgh. I did get to see them play at Texas though.
Please let me clarify. You are a terrible fan if you live in Pgh, use these boards to complain about the program and don't go to the games.
 
I was there, sadly I was too young to remember the crowd.. WIki has it at 40k, no clue where they are pulling their numbers though. 40k for an opener, with us at #3, going against the #7 school, led by Jim Mcmahon, that is a WEAK crowd.. Maybe we all knew Foge sucked subconsciously..

Sat. Sep. 1 3:30 p.m. BYU No. 3 Pitt StadiumPittsburgh, PA ESPN L 14–20 40,263

Yes, but I was one of those 40,263 people. See back then, no one cared. It wasn't until the advent of the internet fan message boards that attendance really became an issue. It is like we are puffing our chests out because we decide to go watch a football game, like it makes us better people. It is really ridiculous and we fall into the trap of those mega schools and fans who have nothing else in the world to care about and make it into a point of emphasis.
 
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Please let me clarify. You are a terrible fan if you live in Pgh, use these boards to complain about the program and don't go to the games.

I know this may be sacrilegious, I have strived to be many things in my life, "great fan" is not one of them.

How about I just don't really like going to football games every weekend. A couple a year is fine. I still have a passion for the team, happy when they win, sad if they lose, but I don't feel an obligation to have to go to games.
 
I know this may be sacrilegious, I have strived to be many things in my life, "great fan" is not one of them.

How about I just don't really like going to football games every weekend. A couple a year is fine. I still have a passion for the team, happy when they win, sad if they lose, but I don't feel an obligation to have to go to games.
I kid you not, I enjoy watching the game a million times on tv more than going. This goes especially for the steelers but for pitt too. Maybe it's because I used to go to all the steeler games in high school and college, would get absolutely wrecked 6 hours before the game, and I ended up missing the whole damn thing.

As far as pitt, i'll try to go to 3 a year. I actually enjoy road trips much more, as I do the bowl trips. So much more exciting for obvious reasons, new city, hit up bars pre game, new venue. I too don't get this public shaming from pitt fans, calling out fans for not going to every game. Relax fellas, enjoy yourselves and worry less about others.
 
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Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
(Big East Conference) (2001–2011)
2001 Rutgers 2–9 0–7 8th
2002 Rutgers 1–11 0–7 8th
2003 Rutgers 5–7 2–5 7th
2004 Rutgers 4–7 1–5 6th
2005 Rutgers 7–5 4–3 3rd L Insight
2006 Rutgers 11–2 5–2 T–2nd W Texas 12 12
2007 Rutgers 8–5 3–4 T–5th W International
2008 Rutgers 8–5 5–2 T–2nd W Papajohns.com
2009 Rutgers 9–4 3–4 T–4th W St. Petersburg
2010 Rutgers 4–8 1–6 8th
2011 Rutgers 9–4 4–3 T–4th
2012 Rutgers 9-4
2013 Rutgers 8-5

I only became a Rutgers fans around 2003 which is 13 years ago. It amazing that people try to put down Rutgers when they went 8 out of 9 season averaging 9 wins excluding 2012 when Eric LEGRAND was injured. Going back 20-40 years to get to 10 or 11 wins is crazy. CFL has changed dramatically over the years and teams like Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Penn State and even Miami might never get back to those glory years 25-40 years ago. Wins and Losses come in cycle and Rutgers and Pitts will start winning again. More likely 8-9 wins because we're in a more difficult conferences. Fans were calling for Svhiano firing after 3 seasons of 9 wins but fans are crazy.

Now they want to fire the Texas, USC, Auburn and Oregon coaches. I don't ever seeing Oregon being the team they were. Washington, with Peterson, will dominate the PAC 12.
 
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I kid you not, I enjoy watching the game a million times on tv more than going. This goes especially for the steelers but for pitt too. Maybe it's because I used to go to all the steeler games in high school and college, would get absolutely wrecked 6 hours before the game, and I ended up missing the whole damn thing.

As far as pitt, i'll try to go to 3 a year. I actually enjoy road trips much more, as I do the bowl trips. So much more exciting for obvious reasons, new city, hit up bars pre game, new venue. I too don't get this public shaming from pitt fans, calling out fans for not going to every game. Relax fellas, enjoy yourselves and worry less about others.
Yes road trips are definitely more fun since they are made up mostly of us die hard PITT fans. We actually stand for the whole game and cheer, etc.
 
The people that post on the boards are not the problem on a whole, we are committed, some can commit more depending on financials, it's the fan whom Pitt can't win over, because they are their own worst enemy, and have lost at least one generation and counting with ineptitude
 
The people that post on the boards are not the problem on a whole, we are committed, some can commit more depending on financials, it's the fan whom Pitt can't win over, because they are their own worst enemy, and have lost at least one generation and counting with ineptitude
I enjoyed my time watching Rutgers but have started to lose interest because of the last few years. If they don't get better in the next 2-3 years, I might totally lose my interest in the team, that's after about 20 years of following them. I think most fans are like that. Also, it is a financial and time burden to actually get to the game must harder than watching the team on Tv.
 
I kid you not, I enjoy watching the game a million times on tv more than going. This goes especially for the steelers but for pitt too. Maybe it's because I used to go to all the steeler games in high school and college, would get absolutely wrecked 6 hours before the game, and I ended up missing the whole damn thing.

As far as pitt, i'll try to go to 3 a year. I actually enjoy road trips much more, as I do the bowl trips. So much more exciting for obvious reasons, new city, hit up bars pre game, new venue. I too don't get this public shaming from pitt fans, calling out fans for not going to every game. Relax fellas, enjoy yourselves and worry less about others.

Yeah definitely road games are more fun. As for games, I went to the Steeler opener, the PSU game, but doubt I will go to a Steeler game. I mean, I have seen a Super Bowl, countless AFC Champ games and playoff games, now that I am older, have a job that requires a lot of travel the advancement of TV, I like chilling at home. As for Pitt, I have seen some of the biggest games, same thing.

Now road games you actually feel like you are representing your fandom more.
 
The people that post on the boards are not the problem on a whole, we are committed, some can commit more depending on financials, it's the fan whom Pitt can't win over, because they are their own worst enemy, and have lost at least one generation and counting with ineptitude

That's just it. People have to understand, you can make the tickets $1 and it isn't going to make a difference. It is a time investment That is the biggest thing, the time and passion. When people in this region have Sunday already bookmarked for the Steelers, and they work from Monday thru Friday and have kid activities on Saturday, how can you fault them? You can say well at "insert football factory name here" school this doesn't matter, and I say, well that is their prerogative and they also don't have a Steeler team that they are sharing the region for casual fans.

And everytime you have that moment where Pitt looks like it might take a step........it fails. That doesn't convert casual and otherwise ambivalent fans.
 
When you go away to school, it becomes your home and your friends become your family. It is it's own community and kids remember their four years there as the greatest times of their lives because in most cases it is the first time they have been on their own and away from their family.

Pitt is mostly commuter and hometown kids so there is none of what I typed above. Yes, there are many others that come from other places and stay the four years, but not as many as the other schools like PSU, OSU, WVU, etc.

That hasn't been true at Pitt for at least 30 years or more and is absolutely false today. Now, only 3% of freshman don't live on-campus. That is close to your true undergrad commuter numbers. That is lower than just about any urban school. For a couple of random examples, that is 4.5% lower than Wisconsin-Madison and 8% less than Minnesota. Only about 17% of Pitt undergrad students are from Allegheny County. That is about twice as few as the number that are from out-of-state.
 
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I kid you not, I enjoy watching the game a million times on tv more than going. This goes especially for the steelers but for pitt too. Maybe it's because I used to go to all the steeler games in high school and college, would get absolutely wrecked 6 hours before the game, and I ended up missing the whole damn thing.

As far as pitt, i'll try to go to 3 a year. I actually enjoy road trips much more, as I do the bowl trips. So much more exciting for obvious reasons, new city, hit up bars pre game, new venue. I too don't get this public shaming from pitt fans, calling out fans for not going to every game. Relax fellas, enjoy yourselves and worry less about others.
The problem lies with people who do not attend games, but then bash Pitt for not being better. You need good players to be a better program, and good players want a supportive fan base.
 
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