This team does not deserve to make the tournament. I don't care what the strength of schedule was. A 1-11 record in Q1 games should not be good enough to earn a tourney birth. I hate that team, and if they make it, it is clearly unfair bias to a blueblood program who was not up to par. They should be home in Chapel Hill for the NCAA tournament.
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Agree. That said, I doubt they can beat a Flagg-less Duke, but, will probably get in anyway.
One Q1 victory. Will any other P4 team get in with only one Q1 victory? It's nice to have the opportunity to play that many Q1 games, but, you actually should have to win a few to be tournament worthy. Of course, there is a double standard where bluebloods are concerned.
Xavier is in the discussion, and they are 1-8. If VCU doesn't get the autobid they would have a chance at an at large, and they have 2. Utah State seems to be in, and they have 2. Villanova is at least nominally on the bubble and they have 2. The aforementioned Colorado State is on the bubble with 1.
More importantly, North Carolina would be between a pickem and a small favorite against every one of those five teams if they were to play in Dayton next week. Because North Carolina is actually probably a little better than all of them.
Which is what it's supposed to be about.
I don't care if your ucla circa 1970, if you go 1-12 in Q1 games you should not be in the tournament. Nice comeback you say, well Duke played without Cooper Flagg and Malik Brown. I doubt there is any comeback if Duke has its full roster. I wouldn't argue they are not good enough, it's simply that you have to evaluate resumes and if it comes down to them or Texas that 1-12 Q1 record should give them the boot.
They will get in. I am all but certain. I hope an SEC team eventually beats them physically and on the scoreboard by about 30!
So who do you put in instead? They can't just cut the field down to 60 this year because the bubble is weak.
Yeah I guess I’m in the minority here, but if you’re 13-7 in a P4 conference and tied for 4th place, I have no beef. And Texas being 6-12? No way.
Rooting against VCU in the A10 so that they steal a bid and maybe we see UNC vs WVU in Dayton. UNC would be like a 7 point favorite. WVU is so bad
Just play a tough schedule, you don't need to win any of those tough games. Lol. SMH
Exactly. Everyone should do this. Schedule impossible, lose them all. Get in. You are crazy if you don't do this
What's funny is the ACC only got 4, so obviously they view it as the weakest power conference. Yet they take a team with only one Q1 win. Remember, the last 10 aren't supposed to matter. North Carolina played in the weakest conference and couldn't beat any of the top teams in its own league. They essentially have nothing but garbage wins and it's enough.
Again, who is better than them or has a better resume and was left out? Xavier had a terrible resume and got in too
The bubble was weak this year and there were very few bid stealers to boot
My "predictions" rarely come true ... but on Feb 27 I posted on this that UNC would make the NCAAT
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Sorry SMF. Bruce Pearl or Nate Oats won't be moving to Chapel Hill any time soon. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2025/02/25/hubert-davis-north-carolina-unc-basketball-contract-extension-details-bonuses/80297621007/
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If I counted them correctly, there were NINE teams that had worse NET rankings than North Carolina that got at large bids, and no teams that had a better NET ranking than them that did not make it. And don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that that is all that should matter. But it does matter.
The NCAA has been saying for years that they want teams to play tough non-conference schedules. They said it again today, if anyone was listening.
I'm not saying I have a problem with the SEC getting 14 teams in because the alternatives didn't have a strong case either, but if you look at the non conference strength of schedule for the lower end of the SEC, you'll see those words are applied pretty subjectively.
West Virginia most certainly had a better resume and was left home. They actually won I believe six Q1 games. Don't tell me the committee didn't give special consideration to NC because the NC AD was in charge of the whole committee. He supposedly had no input on NC but I'm not that naive. Other than Xavier, all the other teams had more Q1 wins. I'm not even saying they are not good enough. They pass the eye test. That said, for future reference, I don't think a team with a Q1 record of 1-10 or worse should ever get in. You should actually have to win a few of those games. I'm not sure if their 1-12 record is the worst of all-time since the quadrants have been used to make it in, but, I'm willing to bet some cash that it is.
WVU had a NET of 51 which is pretty poor, and is probably why they didn't make it despite having more Q1 wins than several teams in the field. WVU went 10-13 vs Q1 and Q2 while UNC went 9-12, so not much difference there.
If the selection committee wasn't full of it and actually consistently applied their supposed focus on non-conference strength of schedule, the bottom teams in the SEC wouldn't have sniffed the bubble and both WVU and UNC would be in, but that's not the case.
As I keep saying, your hard line on things like Q1 wins makes no sense when the selection committee has to fill out a bracket and nearly every year there are teams like this on the edge. What are they supposed to do when not enough teams meet your criteria? Just hand out byes?
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