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Terrible call. Tough to overturn call on the field there, but the ball never even reached the goal line.
 
There was a second you could see through the pile. His head was about at the goal line and the ball was clearly far behind near his side. Tough to overturn that, but the ball really was never close.
 
If you can't tell where it is, what would the ref give a TD?
Exactly. To call that a touchdown was nothing more than a wild guess. The only time you could see the ball was on replay when you could tell it was nowhere close. The TD call on the field was as bad of a call as it gets. If that ref thinks he saw the ball cross the line, he is flat out lying, because it never happened.
 
the ref on the field did not signal touchdown right away, he came running in from the sideline to see where the Miami player was. Once he saw where he was he signaled touchdown. I really didn't see much arguing from the Pitt players either, maybe they did and I just missed it.

Replay would be useless because you can't see where the Miami qb was under the pile
 
the ref on the field did not signal touchdown right away, he came running in from the sideline to see where the Miami player was. Once he saw where he was he signaled touchdown. I really didn't see much arguing from the Pitt players either, maybe they did and I just missed it.

Replay would be useless because you can't see where the Miami qb was under the pile
Kayaa's head was at the goal line so that is correct. But the announcers even said, the replay even showed for a moment, the ball was down near his side, which was nowhere close to the goal line. So the ref signaling TD by looking at the player is still a bad call because it doesn't matter, it's if the ball crossed.
 
Kayaa's head was at the goal line so that is correct. But the announcers even said, the replay even showed for a moment, the ball was down near his side, which was nowhere close to the goal line. So the ref signaling TD by looking at the player is still a bad call because it doesn't matter, it's if the ball crossed.

the ball was at his side but he pushed forward after that, then disappeared in the pile. None of us watching on TV can see where the qb ended up, so we can't say it was a bad call or a good call. We just don't know.
 
My seats are near goal line on the side the ref called the TD - there is no way he saw anything conclusive just assumed he got in
I'm not there today, but my seats are right in that endzone also. And you are exactly right, that is the point. It sucks because it is hard to overturn that, but you could for a moment on replay see the ball didn't cross. But the fact he called it a TD on the field was a rush to judgement and an absolutely horrendous call.
 
As an official, the default call is that he isn't in unless you clearly see that he crossed. The on field ref just assumed, and the video ref had nothing to go by. The on field ref in both cases called td on the field, without seeing clearly that either was a td. He put the burden on the replay ref, and assumed both were in.

If he called both of them NOT tds, the replay ref wouldn't have overturned that either.

Both were the wrong call. And pitt should be down 12-3 or at worst 16-3.

Oh well, got to overcome, and maybe we'll get some ref breaks in the second half.
 
the ball was at his side but he pushed forward after that, then disappeared in the pile. None of us watching on TV can see where the qb ended up, so we can't say it was a bad call or a good call. We just don't know.
You're 100% correct, but you might as well give it up. These guys will be arguing about whether that was a TD or not when we're down 52-3. They don't seem to be phased by the fact that Miami drove to the half yard line on that series with ease. They're even arguing that the second TD wasn't a TD. Maybe next they'll argue that Miami actually had less than 248 yards at the half, and we have more than 102.
 
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As an official, the default call is that he isn't in unless you clearly see that he crossed. The on field ref just assumed, and the video ref had nothing to go by. The on field ref in both cases called td on the field, without seeing clearly that either was a td. He put the burden on the replay ref, and assumed both were in.

If he called both of them NOT tds, the replay ref wouldn't have overturned that either.

Both were the wrong call. And pitt should be down 12-3 or at worst 16-3.

Oh well, got to overcome, and maybe we'll get some ref breaks in the second half.
How the hell do you know what he saw?
 
I'm not gonna complain too much about the long TD catch, that was really, really close and he probably was actually in. But UPitt is exactly right at least regarding the TD run. You can not call that a TD without seeing it. And yes, you could see where the ball was on replay. He never reached the ball forward after he was stopped with the ball tucked to his side. But in live action, to call that a TD is just about the biggest blunder you can make as an official.
 
This "bad"TD call isn't the problem today. The problem is Pitt isn't playing well in any area!
Don't allow Miami to get to the goal line, don't throw an interception, tackle better, cover the recievers better, finish runs, eliminate the stupid penalties, etc.

Pitt fans always dwell on the phatom penalty and hang the game on something like that. In basketball its the fouls that cost us the games not our play.

Play better and Pitt wins even being down 20-3.
 
This "bad"TD call isn't the problem today. The problem is Pitt isn't playing well in any area!
Don't allow Miami to get to the goal line, don't throw an interception, tackle better, cover the recievers better, finish runs, eliminate the stupid penalties, etc.

Pitt fans always dwell on the phatom penalty and hang the game on something like that. In basketball its the fouls that cost us the games not our play.

Play better and Pitt wins even being down 20-3.
You are correct in that aspect. But no matter what the score is, a bad call is a bad call.
 
This "bad"TD call isn't the problem today. The problem is Pitt isn't playing well in any area!
Don't allow Miami to get to the goal line, don't throw an interception, tackle better, cover the recievers better, finish runs, eliminate the stupid penalties, etc.

Pitt fans always dwell on the phatom penalty and hang the game on something like that. In basketball its the fouls that cost us the games not our play.

Play better and Pitt wins even being down 20-3.
Screw logic.
 
Yeah I mean we should win every game by 50 points... or else we totally suck and shouldn't even be a team. I mean if the ref makes an error on 4th down at your goal line stop complaining right? I mean your opponent should NEVER get to the goal line and if they do you might as well should just let the opponent score on first down so the referee doesnt put you in a situation to complain slightly.
And with our team of hall of famers it shouldn't matter anyways since the next play should be a Pitt touchdown followed by an interview return for a touchdown. Also... you shouldn't complain if the opponent catches a long touchdown pass on 3rd down out of bounds... I mean we should have had a player standing on the sideline to intercept the ball. How can you have the gall to complain about a bad call... the refs are only human!!! Not like Pitt's robotic players that should be absolutely perfect or else the coaching sucks, fans are horrible, stadium is awful, recruiting is akin to a MAC school, uniforms suck and all arguments are yinzers.
 
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