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O.T. -- Adam Breneman, TE for the Nits, ends injury-plagued career.

Some nit wit could pile dog shit up to look like a paterno sculpture and the cultists would buy it. NIce work on his part but no need to canonize him!
9, my neighbor has paturdo statues all over his yard.. Come out a bit steamy this time of year almost smokey.. Maybe a sign of what is really happening... Someone burning in hell... Joe.. Is that you ?
 
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Now that is sad! There are so many good people you can look up to and the nit wits chose someone how waited to report a child rape, covered it up & knew what was happening for years and years.

9, my neighbor has paturdo statues all over his yard.. Come out a bit steamy this time of year almost smokey.. Maybe a sign of what is really happening... Someone burning in hell... Joe.. Is that you ?
 
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A talented kid who deserved much better. Suffered his first of several knee injuries in high school, and never fulfilled what might have been a great career.

Best of luck to him down the road.


OK, all you saints get ready to rip me...but there a about 10 stories in the Patriot News yesterday about a kid who had a total of 190 career receiving yards. I think he is/was an excellent self-promoter of his inherent "goodness". My son and I used to laugh because we would see him show up at high school basketball games during winter recess late ( as a hush came over the crowd), stay for a quarter and leave. We would be at another game two days later and see him do the same thing. Like to make the rounds as it were and basically bask in the glory of his 5-starness....Would not be surprised to see young Mr. Brenneman in the wonderful world of politics somewhere down the line...

one has to wonder though how his career might have progressed had he had access to Freddie Fu and his gang at UPMC......
 
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I am still trying to figure out why any Pitt fan should care at all about this news?

Some kid with no connection to Pittsburgh or it's namesake university, chose to attend another school someplace else, got hurt, had to stop playing early, and we're supposed to care?

I'm sorry but I don't care at all about this news regardless of how involved this kid was with this church, how many chocolate chip cookies he sold, how many little old ladies he walked across the street, etc.

Very weird thread.
 
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I like to see the best of both Universities and Programs, but to be fair, Penn state Fans have for the most part always put down other Universities, Players, Coaches, and Fans and that is no longer acceptable anymore from any Penn State fan trying to even praise one of their own as their own Fans seldom recognize the other attributes of other Schools, Programs and Players!

Once that Penn State Scandal happen and revealed this Culture of Cover up, Non-Compliance, and Secrecy and there is no debate about that at all, it is very tough for other fans to be gratis towards Penn State just based on the hate posted on BWI every minute about attacking many people, programs and schools?

I find this tough on the normal Penn State Fan & Graduates that in my opinion are wonderful people, but the ones that have looked down upon others can never look up again, without acknowledging they brought this kind reaction upon themselves and Paterno helped create that kind of hate in spite of him being a very great football coach?


I prefer good discussions on CFB and recognizing the successes, failures and banter as part of life, and respect what both Programs have done, and to bad sometimes this gets lost among prior beliefs and practices of a Fan Base that undercuts the very values of Penn State with such hate towards others on BWI?

Now the Penn State Tight End is a class act and anyone would like to have a son and friend like him, but remnants of Penn Staters not treating other fans or their own Players and coaches with respect often cause problems on other boards to gain the very respect they expect from others when having such a Graduates.

Penn State University has moved on, put in reforms, to its credit, but it is not the Program it once claimed it was, is, and will always be, and never was in the aspects their fans were taught, and that is fair and accurate too!
 
I am still trying to figure out why any Pitt fan should care at all about this news?

Some kid with no connection to Pittsburgh or it's namesake university, chose to attend another school someplace else, got hurt, had to stop playing early, and we're supposed to care?

I'm sorry but I don't care at all about this news regardless of how involved this kid was with this church, how many chocolate chip cookies he sold, how many little old ladies he walked across the street, etc.

Very weird thread.

(1) You want to talk about "weird"? What I think's weird is when anyone chooses to read a thread knowing exactly what it's about, and then feels the need to proclaim that they don't care about the subject matter. Why read it at all if you don't care about the subject matter?

(2) I intentionally labeled the thread very carefully, so that anyone who clicked-on it knows exactly what the thread is about: starting with "OT", his name, his position, his college, the topic. No accidental, "oops!, I didn't know what the thread was about!" excuses accepted.

(3) Why I posted it: the kid was recruited by Pitt - he even had a Pitt offer. Hence, a Pitt "connection" of sorts, as more than a few Pitt fans on this board did follow this kid at one time.

(4) Why should anyone care? No one has to care. But since Nit U. is on our schedule for this coming season, we now know that he's one player whom we won't be facing.
 
(1) You want to talk about "weird"? What I think's weird is when anyone chooses to read a thread knowing exactly what it's about, and then feels the need to proclaim that they don't care about the subject matter. Why read it at all if you don't care about the subject matter?

(2) I intentionally labeled the thread very carefully, so that anyone who clicked-on it knows exactly what the thread is about: starting with "OT", his name, his position, his college, the topic. No accidental, "oops!, I didn't know what the thread was about!" excuses accepted.

(3) Why I posted it: the kid was recruited by Pitt - he even had a Pitt offer. Hence, a Pitt "connection" of sorts, as more than a few Pitt fans on this board did follow this kid at one time.

(4) Why should anyone care? No one has to care. But since Nit U. is on our schedule for this coming season, we now know that he's one player whom we won't be facing.
(5) It is January 8th...what the hell else are you going to talk about? We have OT-Movie threads. We have OT-Favorite Grocery Store threads... so what? I actually think an interesting angle in the story that can make have a Pitt angle is this kid's injury history. I have heard several Nitters down here lament as to why other major universities have world class orthopedic/sports medicine types (Fu at Pitt for example) at their beckon call and their kids end up at Hershey Med...
 
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^^^ Agreed! WHEN JC beats his cancer and is playing again taunting Freddie Fu and Co would make sense to recruits! No recruit thinks of getting hurt but it does happen and PITT has the facilities to take the best care possible.

Remember :

If you want to save animals - go to UPS
If you want to save humans - go to PITT
 
Classy kid. Represents all the best that a Penn State player could hope to be as a man. While we freely poke and jab at the Cult, let's give a good kid his due. And remember that Penn State's football PLAYERS weren't the criminals up there.
 
I am still trying to figure out why any Pitt fan should care at all about this news?

Some kid with no connection to Pittsburgh or it's namesake university, chose to attend another school someplace else, got hurt, had to stop playing early, and we're supposed to care?

I'm sorry but I don't care at all about this news regardless of how involved this kid was with this church, how many chocolate chip cookies he sold, how many little old ladies he walked across the street, etc.

Very weird thread.

Yep my thoughts exactly. I don't wish I'll of him but not going to lose sleep because his career ended by injury
 
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For the record I don't care if people post off topic stuff. My interests run in many areas other than football. I enjoy talking movies, other teams, etc...My comments are directed at the nitters that want me to feel bad that one of their players is injured. I would never attack fellow pitt posters and fans.
 
(1) You want to talk about "weird"? What I think's weird is when anyone chooses to read a thread knowing exactly what it's about, and then feels the need to proclaim that they don't care about the subject matter. Why read it at all if you don't care about the subject matter?

(2) I intentionally labeled the thread very carefully, so that anyone who clicked-on it knows exactly what the thread is about: starting with "OT", his name, his position, his college, the topic. No accidental, "oops!, I didn't know what the thread was about!" excuses accepted.

(3) Why I posted it: the kid was recruited by Pitt - he even had a Pitt offer. Hence, a Pitt "connection" of sorts, as more than a few Pitt fans on this board did follow this kid at one time.

(4) Why should anyone care? No one has to care. But since Nit U. is on our schedule for this coming season, we now know that he's one player whom we won't be facing.

Guilty. I guess it's the old car wreck theory.

I guess I read it out of morbid curiosity over what Penn State issue Pitt people were obsessing about this time? More than anything I kept waiting to read how it related to my favorite team, the University of Pittsburgh?

Seriously, do you think Ohio State or Michigan or Michigan State that has a thread about Penn State's backup tight end quitting football? Those schools play PSU every year.

I guess I was just trying to figure out why on earth we would be talking about something so completely irrelevant to Pitt? It was just so off-the-wall that I thought perhaps I was missing something. Turns out, I was not. It's just more weird Pitt fan bullshitt.

Never mind though. If you want to talk about some kid who is from some other far away place and plays sparingly for Penn State or Ohio State or Utah State or New Mexico, go for it. It will still be weird but this is America and you are free to do whatever you want.

Now, I'm going to head over to BWI to get their thoughts on Scott Orndoff.
 
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No. The story is why a recruit who never made a dent in football who proclaimed that PSU is a great place and fed a false narrative that the cultists ate up. Both he and Hack went out of their way to proclaim and continue that all the scandals and related issues were wrong and unfair. PSU will over come such a wrong and continue to be the palace that Paterno built. Then he has the audacity to write and publish a letter that is worthy of a noble prize. Give me a break.
 
Guilty. I guess it's the old car wreck theory.

I guess I read it out of morbid curiosity over what Penn State issue Pitt people were obsessing about this time? More than anything I kept waiting to read how it related to my favorite team, the University of Pittsburgh?

Seriously, do you think Ohio State or Michigan or Michigan State that has a thread about Penn State's backup tight end quitting football? Those schools play PSU every year.

I guess I was just trying to figure out why on earth we would be talking about something so completely irrelevant to Pitt? It was just so off-the-wall that I thought perhaps I was missing something. Turns out, I was not. It's just more weird Pitt fan bullshitt.

Never mind though. If you want to talk about some kid who is from some other far away place and plays sparingly for Penn State or Ohio State or Utah State or New Mexico, go for it. It will still be weird but this is America and you are free to do whatever you want.

Now, I'm going to head over to BWI to get their thoughts on Scott Orndoff.
but yet an odd silence from you on the weirdness of Pitt fan bullshitt on such riveting topics such as OT-Favorite Star Wars Light Saber Colors or OT-Do you use dryer sheets?...got it...always kind of thought "off topic" implied Pitt football irrelevance...
 
Seriously, do you think Ohio State or Michigan or Michigan State that has a thread about Penn State's backup tight end quitting football? Those schools play PSU every year.
With all seriousness, I'd guess that while tOSU, Michigan, or MSU won't have a thread pertaining to a Nit TE, they just might have a thread about an opposing TE from tOSU, Michigan, or MSU. It's that "rivalry thing", and UPS has no genuine rivalry with any of those three as they do with Pitt, even though they play one another.

The rivalry between the two PA schools defines itself just by the number of threads and posts added onto these boards each day.....
 
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With all seriousness, I'd guess that while tOSU, Michigan, or MSU won't have a thread pertaining to a Nit TE, they just might have a thread about an opposing TE from tOSU, Michigan, or MSU. It's that "rivalry thing", and UPS has no genuine rivalry with any of those three as they do with Pitt, even though they play one another.

The rivalry between the two PA schools defines itself just by the number of threads and posts added onto these boards each day.....
in other words....."Seriously, do you think Ohio State would have a thread about Michigan's backup tight end quitting football?"....Uh, absolutely...
 
I like to see the best of both Universities and Programs, but to be fair, Penn state Fans have for the most part always put down other Universities, Players, Coaches, and Fans and that is no longer acceptable anymore from any Penn State fan trying to even praise one of their own as their own Fans seldom recognize the other attributes of other Schools, Programs and Players!

Once that Penn State Scandal happen and revealed this Culture of Cover up, Non-Compliance, and Secrecy and there is no debate about that at all, it is very tough for other fans to be gratis towards Penn State just based on the hate posted on BWI every minute about attacking many people, programs and schools?

I find this tough on the normal Penn State Fan & Graduates that in my opinion are wonderful people, but the ones that have looked down upon others can never look up again, without acknowledging they brought this kind reaction upon themselves and Paterno helped create that kind of hate in spite of him being a very great football coach?


I prefer good discussions on CFB and recognizing the successes, failures and banter as part of life, and respect what both Programs have done, and to bad sometimes this gets lost among prior beliefs and practices of a Fan Base that undercuts the very values of Penn State with such hate towards others on BWI?

Now the Penn State Tight End is a class act and anyone would like to have a son and friend like him, but remnants of Penn Staters not treating other fans or their own Players and coaches with respect often cause problems on other boards to gain the very respect they expect from others when having such a Graduates.

Penn State University has moved on, put in reforms, to its credit, but it is not the Program it once claimed it was, is, and will always be, and never was in the aspects their fans were taught, and that is fair and accurate too!
I was a teenager in 1973 when two seismic events happened in my life as a football fan. John Majors took the Pitt job, and a recent Penn State graduate moved in next door.

For two years I rooted for both schools, leaning Pittward but, being a kid, susceptible to the fantastical Nittany narrative spun by my affable neighbor in hit blue-and-white tam-o-shanter. Joe Paterno was some sort of hybrid of Jesus, Professor Xavier and Jacques Cousteau.

And ohh, could my neighbor rag on the evisl of Pitt, Oakland, the Dirty O, Pitt's inconsistent uniform tops, Tony Dorsett's cognitive abilities, you name it.

By 1975, my senior year of high school, I had made a weekend stay at PSU to "seal the deal" as a future Nitter. To my surprise, I concluded that it was too big a place for me. Coming from a small high school I didn't want to be a faceless number, which is what my host had cautioned. Penn State just wasn't the right fit for me.

The news didn't go down well next door. I narrowed my choices to Pitt and Carnegie Mellon, eventually picking CMU. All the while, the jabs kept coming from across the fence. My neighbor started planting the Nitter seeds in my impressionable younger sisters -- successfully, as it turned out. But he pushed me across the line forever into the Pitt camp. By the time the gun sounded on the 1975 Pitt-Penn State game, I was burning over Carson Long's missed kicks in that bitter 7-6 loss as much as any Pitt graduate.

Since then, it's been Game On for me. Paterno became the Hypocrite of Happy Valley, the mind-gamer, the sanctimonious fraud, the great Satan in khakis. And while Pitt's fortunes haven't been as lofty as Penn States in the ensuing 40 years, Pitt hasn't done a Humpty JoePa Great Fall, either. I have never regretted being a Pitt fan vs. the alternative, especially in the wake of Sandusky's crimes.

And as Cap'n points out, it's that insufferable sanctimony, that Chevy Chase-We-Are-And-You-Aren't-Goody-Two-Black-Shoes aspect that grates on my nerves like a bastard file on an iron pipe. That fringe element of the PSU base isn't helping the healing; it is perpetuating a perception that the entire PSU community is out of touch. I feel for the people who genuinely care for Penn State and see their school as much, much more than a football factory. That is the Penn State that existed for nearly a century before the Old Rat set foot on the campus in 1950. And that is what the sane PSU people want to restore. Football will never be the same, not in the star-crossed Paterno Way, but PSU will be better for it.





By 1975
 
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I was a teenager in 1973 when two seismic events happened in my life as a football fan. John Majors took the Pitt job, and a recent Penn State graduate moved in next door.

For two years I rooted for both schools, leaning Pittward but, being a kid, susceptible to the fantastical Nittany narrative spun by my affable neighbor in hit blue-and-white tam-o-shanter. Joe Paterno was some sort of hybrid of Jesus, Professor Xavier and Jacques Cousteau.

And ohh, could my neighbor rag on the evisl of Pitt, Oakland, the Dirty O, Pitt's inconsistent uniform tops, Tony Dorsett's cognitive abilities, you name it.

By 1975, my senior year of high school, I had made a weekend stay at PSU to "seal the deal" as a future Nitter. To my surprise, I concluded that it was too big a place for me. Coming from a small high school I didn't want to be a faceless number, which is what my host had cautioned. Penn State just wasn't the right fit for me.

The news didn't go down well next door. I narrowed my choices to Pitt and Carnegie Mellon, eventually picking CMU. All the while, the jabs kept coming from across the fence. My neighbor started planting the Nitter seeds in my impressionable younger sisters -- successfully, as it turned out. But he pushed me across the line forever into the Pitt camp. By the time the gun sounded on the 1975 Pitt-Penn State game, I was burning over Carson Long's missed kicks in that bitter 7-6 loss as much as any Pitt graduate.

Since then, it's been Game On for me. Paterno became the Hypocrite of Happy Valley, the mind-gamer, the sanctimonious fraud, the great Satan in khakis. And while Pitt's fortunes haven't been as lofty as Penn States in the ensuing 40 years, Pitt hasn't done a Humpty JoePa Great Fall, either. I have never regretted being a Pitt fan vs. the alternative, especially in the wake of Sandusky's crimes.

And as Cap'n points out, it's that insufferable sanctimony, that Chevy Chase-We-Are-And-You-Aren't-Goody-Two-Black-Shoes aspect that grates on my nerves like a bastard file on an iron pipe. That fringe element of the PSU base isn't helping the healing; it is perpetuating a perception that the entire PSU community is out of touch. I feel for the people who genuinely care for Penn State and see their school as much, much more than a football factory. That is the Penn State that existed for nearly a century before the Old Rat set foot on the campus in 1950. And that is what the sane PSU people want to restore. Football will never be the same, not in the star-crossed Paterno Way, but PSU will be better for it.
By 1975
Prior to Pitt's hiring of Johnny Majors, Joe Paterno was the world's biggest proponent of Eastern Football. He would brag about Eastern Football and how tough and competitive that it was every chance that he got.

Why?

Because during those years, UPS and Paterno were Eastern Football. Pitt wasn't doing anything, and neither were WVU, Syracuse, Rutgers, or anyone else in the Northeast. Hell, I can remember when they'd actually rank Dartmouth - yes, that Dartmouth - as one of the top football teams in the East! So Joe's purpose for advocating for Eastern Football was solely to build-up the image of his yearly schedules, which were usually limited to playing the eastern patsies. That was vintage Paterno: he always had an angle for everything that he did, and it was always about what was best for Joe.

But that all changed after Pitt hired Majors. Once Johnny got the Panthers rolling and Pitt became competitve enough to beat Paterno, Paterno suddenly quit extolling the strengths and virtues of Eastern football - "mysteriously" passing on the golden opportuntity to legitimately praise Eastern Football -- because that would involve praising a rising rival, of course.

And adding insult to injury, nothing angered Paterno more than when that smooth talkin' Tennessean, Johnny Majors, helped Pitt to win the national championship before Joe got his title with the Nits.
 
Prior to Pitt's hiring of Johnny Majors, Joe Paterno was the world's biggest proponent of Eastern Football. He would brag about Eastern Football and how tough and competitive that it was every chance that he got.

Why?

Because during those years, UPS and Paterno were Eastern Football. Pitt wasn't doing anything, and neither were WVU, Syracuse, Rutgers, or anyone else in the Northeast. Hell, I can remember when they'd actually rank Dartmouth - yes, that Dartmouth - as one of the top football teams in the East! So Joe's purpose for advocating for Eastern Football was solely to build-up the image of his yearly schedules, which were usually limited to playing the eastern patsies. That was vintage Paterno: he always had an angle for everything that he did, and it was always about what was best for Joe.

But that all changed after Pitt hired Majors. Once Johnny got the Panthers rolling and Pitt became competitve enough to beat Paterno, Paterno suddenly quit extolling the strengths and virtues of Eastern football - "mysteriously" passing on the golden opportuntity to legitimately praise Eastern Football -- because that would involve praising a rising rival, of course.

And adding insult to injury, nothing angered Paterno more than when that smooth talkin' Tennessean, Johnny Majors, helped Pitt to win the national championship before Joe got his title with the Nits.
Was it 1970 when PSU and Dartmouth were in the Lambert Trophy discussion?

Great point. Penn State was the only big dog in the east prior to the ascent of Pitt under Majors. And throughout Joe's tenure while PSU remained an independent, Penn State seldom had more than one rival "of its own size" to contend with. First it was Pitt, then BC was there during the Flutie years, then the Cuse under MacPherson and WVU under Nehlen, but never all of them at once.
 
Was it 1970 when PSU and Dartmouth were in the Lambert Trophy discussion?

Great point. Penn State was the only big dog in the east prior to the ascent of Pitt under Majors. And throughout Joe's tenure while PSU remained an independent, Penn State seldom had more than one rival "of its own size" to contend with. First it was Pitt, then BC was there during the Flutie years, then the Cuse under MacPherson and WVU under Nehlen, but never all of them at once.
Dartmouth actually won the Lambert Trophy in both 1965 and 1970.

Look here to see how the Nits totally dominated the East during the years prior to the Majors hire:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert-Meadowlands_Trophy
 
And so what if he did?

17-year-olds are not necessarily that high on wisdom or perspective. Yes, they will cry over things that are lost to THEM.

Here's to you also gaining some wisdom and perspective in future years.
Sadly in your time you have yet to gain any wisdom yourself. You're really going to call out someone else for their perspective? Sickening. I don't care if said person is 17 or 37, if you can't grasp what happened to the victims is THE ONLY tragedy here, you need serious help.
 
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My bad, guys. I misread this whole thread. Upon further reflection, may God have mercy on this incredibly inspiring young man's soul.
 
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