OC Rumors

[King Of All Message Boards]

I have no names but the rumor mill has begun. Apparently there are 2 names out there under the old rumored gimmick. Anyone have anything??

Vuk and Dokish have tweeted regarding it. And I know opinion is mixed at best with these 2 at times but it seems wheels may be in motion.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Who are they? Or, is it unknown?

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Johns and Yost

 

[SteelCityChamps]

Johns and Yost

I'll take them both. With the 10th assistant coach expected to pass we have room for two. Throw in Kevin Wilson in an advising role and we're set.

OC: Johns
QB coach: Yost
Offensive analyst: Kevin Wilson

 

[Pitt1992]

pitt could have a new OC very shortly,both names mentioned could be hired sooner than later,and Yost had an ELItE QB committed with him at Oregon and he said he only committed cause of Yost and wants to play for him

 

[SteelCityChamps]

Yost is unemployed I believe isn't he

Yes. Assuming Taggart doesn't retain him at Oregon.

Johns may also be unemployed.

The new Indiana coach promoted veteran coach Shawn Watson from quality control to QB coach for the bowl game. Not sure if that is permanent.

The new coach also brought in the WR coach from Ole Miss who he worked with before. He was an Ole Miss grad and people assume he wasn't leaving for a lateral move.

Between those two the new Indiana coach may have his new OC/co-OCs.

There is also talk that Johns is loyal to Wilson since they go back to 1999 at Northwestern. He may want to stay on with the new regime.

 

[Piranha]

pitt could have a new OC very shortly,both names mentioned could be hired sooner than later,and Yost had an ELItE QB committed with him at Oregon and he said he only committed cause of Yost and wants to play for him

Who was the QB?

 

[rockypanther]

 

[SteelCityChamps]

Who was the QB?

Colson Yankoff

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/16797

 

[Piranha]

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[Pitt1992]

Colson yankoff decommitted from Oregon

 

[President Stache]

He would fit in well with our all-name guys like Blewitt

 

[Piranha]

You have to play in Pittsburgh with the last name Yankoff.

 

[PhPanther1]

Yankinoff?

Why would Narduzzi want to bring Oregon's offense to Pitt? Isn't that a complete 180 from where he wants to be?

 

[DruidTM]

No Id say Pitts offense this season was the closest to an Oregon offense in years... interesting and unpredictable...

I'm not interested in 3 yds cloud of dust stuff.

 

[thebadby2]

No Id say Pitts offense this season was the closest to an Oregon offense in years... interesting and unpredictable...

I'm not interested in 3 yds cloud of dust stuff.

Interesting, unpredictable, and explosive were all Canada's O had in common with Oregon's. we ran a pro set scheme with a lot of wrinkles, but still classic pro set with TEs, FBs, occasionally unbalanced with an extra OT, etc. Oregon is an inside read option shotgun spread with at least 3 wide all the time. we will not be seeing that offense at Pitt as long as Narduzzi is here, nor are we likely to hire anyone who comes from that type of background.

 

[Pitt1992]

He can always adjust his offense to what PN wants

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Kevin Johns seems like a great choice, possibly recommended by Canada. Big fan of IU's offense.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

I really, really hope Johns is a legit rumor. Indiana's offense was fun as hell to watch. And, given Narduzzi's friendship with Northwestern's HC and Pitt's former OC, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Johns comes highly recommended from both given he has a past with both.

 

[PhPanther1]

SteelCurtain.....what names you hearing?

 

[thebadby2]

SteelCurtain.....what names you hearing?

LMAO. You gotta be kidding.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Did Johns actually coordinate that offense at Indiana or did Kevin Wilson do it like Chryst runs the offense at Wisconsin?

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Did Johns actually coordinate that offense at Indiana or did Kevin Wilson do it like Chryst runs the offense at Wisconsin?

I'm not certain. But, that said, at minimum, he learned under him and was coach WR/RB and assist in coordinating the passing and running games under Pat Fitzgerald. I imagine Narduzzi spoke to Fitzgerald about him.

 

[President Stache]

No Id say Pitts offense this season was the closest to an Oregon offense in years... interesting and unpredictable...

I'm not interested in 3 yds cloud of dust stuff.

With James Conner, we have a power running attack, without him, still impressive, but hardly the same

 

[Pitt Law '04]

I'm not certain. But, that said, at minimum, he learned under him and was coach WR/RB and assist in coordinating the passing and running games under Pat Fitzgerald. I imagine Narduzzi spoke to Fitzgerald about him.

I don't see how you can be so supportive of this guy without knowing if he's ever coordinated an offense? It's unclear to me if he even called the plays at Indiana.

Other than being an OC under Wilson (where Wilson may have been running the offense), he's never been more than a WR coach. I just don't see the reason for the excitement. There's tons of WR coaches out there.

Being an OC for Narduzzi requires being able to run the offense pretty autonomously.

 

[Pitt1992]

I don't think it really matters to be honest if he called them before or not,he obviously understands the system and knows what to call when,he comes highly recommended by his peers,and theirs a rumor going around we might have a new oc by today or tomorrow and if that's the case the odds are its someone we have already mentioned

 

[Pitt Law '04]

I don't think it really matters to be honest if he called them before or not,he obviously understands the system and knows what to call when,he comes highly recommended by his peers,and theirs a rumor going around we might have a new oc by today or tomorrow and if that's the case the odds are its someone we have already mentioned

Are you serious? You don't think it matters if he's ever called plays before? That's pretty much the most important part of his job (along with game planning).

How do you know he "understands the system and knows what to call when"?

 

[Swervin27]

Are you serious? You don't think it matters if he's ever called plays before? That's pretty much the most important part of his job (along with game planning).

How do you know he "understands the system and knows what to call when"?

well every OC has never called plays... til they have.. Pretty deep, huh?

 

[vegasgreed]

it matters big time. using your logic, why doesn't narduzzi make salem or some other assistant the oc, i mean, they were around matt canada. experience matters. actually being in the hot seat and performing under pressure is completely different than just someone being around the guy that is actually doing the job.

another thing, pat may already have his man but i seriously doubt it will be known today or tomorrow.

I don't think it really matters to be honest if he called them before or not,he obviously understands the system and knows what to call when,he comes highly recommended by his peers,and theirs a rumor going around we might have a new oc by today or tomorrow and if that's the case the odds are its someone we have already mentioned

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[pittzap]

it matters big time. using your logic, why doesn't narduzzi make salem or some other assistant the oc, i mean, they were around matt canada. experience matters. actually being in the hot seat and performing under pressure is completely different than just someone being around the guy that is actually doing the job.

another thing, pat may already have his man but i seriously doubt it will be known today or tomorrow.

Not for nothing, but Salem HAS been an offensive c


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it matters big time. using your logic, why doesn't narduzzi make salem or some other assistant the oc, i mean, they were around matt canada. experience matters. actually being in the hot seat and performing under pressure is completely different than just someone being around the guy that is actually doing the job.

another thing, pat may already have his man but i seriously doubt it will be known today or tomorrow.



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Not for nothing, but Salem HAS been an offensive coordinator before. I see what you are saying, but I know some people would lose it if Salem was promoted. I don't think it will be him, but wanted to mention that.

 

[vegasgreed]

your right, salem wasn't the best example. but when pittlaw asked the question, its a fair question.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Huh? I guarantee Johns called plays. Just assume the prior coach at Indiana had some input on the playcalling.

 

[pittzap]

your right, salem wasn't the best example. but when pittlaw asked the question, its a fair question.

I understand what you mean, though. I believe the Pitt OC position should go to an existing OC or someone with experience. OCs gameplan for each game, which is important; Canada did really well for Pitt with this, as teams said the offense had something new each week.

But they also adjust during the game to continue to find ways to be effective. That's what separates the really good OCs from the rest. Gamplanning is one thing, but gameday adjustments and having the players be able adjust as well is not something every coach has. Someone who hasn't called plays before doesn't have the track record to know if they have this or not. That's why a new OC hire is risky.

 

[thebadby2]

He can always adjust his offense to what PN wants

That's not how it works. You don't hire a guy who has spent his entire career coaching the spread scheme to run a pro scheme. That just doesn't happen.

Kevin Johns makes a lot of sense at Pitt. Yost makes zero sense, unless we are going to a read option spread, which is about as likely to happen as Narduzzi changing his D to a 3-4 with a cover 2.

 

[Big Marty1]

Narduzzi picks a coordinater and I will like it. That includes Yost.

 

[thebadby2]

Narduzzi picks a coordinater and I will like it. That includes Yost.

It won't be Yost. Put that in the bank.

 

[vegasgreed]

badby the Yost talk for the most part was centered around him being a QB coach, not the OC. but that would put us one over on coaches.

 

[SteelCityChamps]

badby the Yost talk for the most part was centered around him being a QB coach, not the OC. but that would put us one over on coaches.

NCAA expected to approve 10th assistant coach.

 

[thebadby2]

badby the Yost talk for the most part was centered around him being a QB coach, not the OC. but that would put us one over on coaches.

Right--but the guy i was responding to said that Yost could be OC and just "adjust" his system to the pro scheme that Narduzzi favors. Ummmm, not how that works.

Anyway, Yost has spent his whole career coaching up QBs in read option spread systems. That doies not translate to QB play in a pro-style offense , so we won;t be seeing him here under any circumstances.

 

[President Stache]

Losing Thatcher didnt count as a coach right? He was just a GA?

I like this or Beck... Beck looks to be a hell of a recruiter.