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He did.
The OT included in the play by play.
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All the guards tend to just want to take it themselves. It's gotta be on Capel, as it's been that way his entire time here.
The few times they move the ball they end up with a layup or a wide open shot. They just don't do it enough. It's very odd and frustrating.
They just don't run enough offense. Too many times they rush shots, and when they don't it's a lot of dribbling and handoffs until somebody has to force one into the lane at the end of a shot clock.
And when anyone gets the ball into or near the paint, it's never coming back out. Defenses just collapse on the ball.
Pretty even game today. We don't rush a few shots, or take a few really selfish and stupid ones, we probably pull it out.
The few times they move the ball they end up with a layup or a wide open shot. They just don't do it enough. It's very odd and frustrating.
They just don't run enough offense. Too many times they rush shots, and when they don't it's a lot of dribbling and handoffs until somebody has to force one into the lane at the end of a shot clock.
And when anyone gets the ball into or near the paint, it's never coming back out. Defenses just collapse on the ball.
Pretty even game today. We don't rush a few shots, or take a few really selfish and stupid ones, we probably pull it out.
Actually looks like a set play from the bench, rather than on court decision making?
Could have used that today.
Didn’t you say you don’t want Lowe doing what he did at the end of the Ohio St game? I’m so confused.
And making any comparisons between Dame Dunn and Burton - who was a 1st team all ACC player is a really bad comp. Dame Dunn takes just as many dumb, stupid hero ball shots as Lowe. He took perhaps the worst shot in the history of basketball in the UNC game.
Yeah thats what Ive been saying. But it appears that Lowe is now the guy that everyone wants to blame after every game. Ish and Dunn are both ball hogs. Its all three guards, but its how Capel is asking and letting them play. Again, this is on Capel. He is the head coach. He can stop it anytime he wants, but its what he draws up as a game plan.
He has made a bad mistake by changing his rotation from early in the season. Starting ACC play and he chooses not to have a bench. These are games Pitt could have won with better coaching. When a head coach seems to be non-existent, you end up with a rudderless ship situation, and that is Pitt right not.
He has made a bad mistake by changing his rotation from early in the season. Starting ACC play and he chooses not to have a bench. These are games Pitt could have won with better coaching. When a head coach seems to be non-existent, you end up with a rudderless ship situation, and that is Pitt right not.
He likes quoting people on twitter who agree with him, no matter how stupid the tweet is.
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I answered your question.
In your mind - Was it a designed play?
No, of course not. Capel even said after the game it wasn’t. Lowe saw the double team coming and passed out of it.
He’s also made tons of late game passes to Austin in other end of game situations…Syracuse, UNC.
All of which were wins. Is Lowe just incapable of seeing the benefit of him playing as a point guard?
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Takeaways: Pitt Struggles Late Against Wake Forest
PITTSBURGH — The Pitt Panthers had a golden opportunity to earn a Quad One road win against Wake Forest, but they couldn’t get it done due to late-game mistakes
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He’s also made shots to win the game at VT, force OT with Clemson etc.
He’s a score first Point Guard, who is also like top 25 nationally in assists. No question he is taking bad shots at times, but he’s not just going to become James Robinson, nor would Capel want that.
A lot of this is on Lowe. He just has to be better. Maybe he won’t be, but you are going to sink or swim with him, for better or worse.
It’s like last year, Blake no showed and shot us out of games @wake, @Clemson, UNC in the ACCT. he’s still going to shoot the ball even when he goes 1-8?
Stop with the “ he’s not going to transform into James Robinson “ crap…no one is contending that should be the case. His decision making on shot selection is absolutely terrible at times and reflects that he doesn’t have a great handle on his own offensive limitations which leads to extremely low percentage, forced shots at times, and on occasion, at some of the worst game situations. He’s an asset except when he isn’t…..his Leggett’s and Dunn’s combined lack of consistency are preventing this team from rising above completely mediocre. Best soph. In the country…..bad joke. For starters, he needs to be coached!
I was high on Lowe last year and saw the potential in him, but he had Bub and Blake to divert attention. He doesn't have that this year. I think if Lowe were coached by someone different than Capel, the potential would be developed further and he'd become the PG he is capable of becoming. That isn't happening here, unfortunately. He has the talent. But without coaching, no matter how talented a player is, it's not going to be seen.
He has a load of talent….just needs to be coached and needs to allow his actual game to catch up to his self perception of his game. Disappointing that we’ve seen no change in any of the guards’ play all season long.
On top of the obvious issues that have been discussed, the lack of depth on this team is a big concern for me. Far too many minutes for our top players and no development of the younger guys. I’m concerned that we’ll see more tired legs and missed jump shots.
Maybe with a few “lesser” opponents coming up (sprinkled in), Capel can find a way to get these guys into the lineup for a few minutes here and there.
I hope so. But with this Pitt team, there are no "lesser" opponents. Any of the remining teams on our schedule could beat us. No given wins in that schedule. Look what GT did to 'Ville. We can't take UVA for granted. If we don't play 40 minutes of defense, rebounding, ball movement, and smart basketball, they could beat us. We aren't good enough to assume anything now.
There are teams in the ACC that are getting better as the season goes along. We aren't one of them.
Point guards should be the captain of the ship and executing the offense. That’s what they should fall back on when the team needs a basket. The problem is we don’t have a structured offense to fall back on.
Which is why I said that the way the Lowe, Leggett and Dunn play is not a bug in this offense, it's a feature.
Very true. Structured offense and Capel can't be in the same sentence. Lowe was at his best last year, when he was doling out assists and directing the offense around Blake and Bub. He's supposed to be the QB of that offense. But not having an offense limits his effectiveness.
I don't know the answer but what I do know is the committee kills you for losing Q3/4 games more than rewarding Q1 wins. I dont agree with that sentiment but you may be asking this question soon:
Has a team with a NET better than 40 with 0 3/4 losses ever been left out. That answer has to be no.
Another question is how much weight is given Q1 vs combined Q1/Q2? Pitt got another Q2 win last night (for now) when Syracuse won at Cal to make their combined Q1/2 record 6-7.
Of note:
Pitt NET 36 is 1-6 and 5-1 with no Q3/Q4 losses
SMU NET 41 is 0-3 and 5-2 with no Q3/Q4 losses
UNC NET 44 is 1-9 and 4-1 with no Q3/Q4 losses
Which Just further highlights the importance of those 2 road games.
Also only 3 of the Top 40 NET have a Q3 loss.
New Mexico at 45 is the highest rated team with a Q4 loss (and also have a Q3 loss).
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What helps Pitt is that 1 of those Q2 wins is against Dream Team 3 (WVU). We somehow defeated that incredible basketball team and did so before Tucker Devries was lost for the season. So that's a really good Q2 win. You just can't score on that team. Only gave up 50 points at Cincy today. To give you an idea of how bad they are offensively, they have a starting guard averaging only 6 PPG in 27 MPG, shooting 37% from the field and only 10% from 3. But he must be able to defend like crazy.
Puts up with it? It seems to be the principal design of his offense. Passing in Capel's offense is not so much to find a cutter, or a shooter coming off a screen. Unless it's a kick out from a drive, passing seems to be done simply to find a mismatch. And then it's one-on-one ball, with the dribbler free to take whatever shot he can create for himself. Capel's whole offense is largely predicated on the dribble drive. Even some offensive sets that look like they have off-the-ball screens built in to the design rarely get executed, as our players just don't cut hard, nor drive their man into the screener. Maybe the cutters just know they're unlikely to get the pass anyway, and just go through the motions.
That all said, I do agree with DT that it's really not our offense that's the problem (unless we're going against an opponent with incredibly "long" defenders, like Duke and FSU - in which case, the dribble penetration just doesn't work nearly as well). It's our defense that has the most problems, and we don't seem to be getting any better defensively. Allowing teams to shoot over 50% for the entire game is not a recipe for making the NCAA tournament. And we've allowed that in these last two losses - both winnable games otherwise.
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