OT:Brady
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Certainly explains why the players didn't worry too much about ceding judge, jury, and executioner duties to the commish.
So it's OK to deflate game balls, but smoking weed, a non-PED 6 months before the season starts should put you out of 4 games? I am living in the past I guess, but I enjoyed sports more in the '60s, '70s and '80s when crimes and drug use by players was swept under the rug, we never really heard about it and nobody was suspended... It was BETTER that way.
This is good news for the Patriots, but horrible news for Brady. Why? Because he won't have served his punishment; it will reinforce the idea that he cheated; he will get no sympathy for having served a too harsh punishment. It will hurt his legacy.
Americans are very forgiving. Martha Stewart was/is a bitch and people were happy to see her get sent away, but having served her time gracefully, she is better liked by some than before her conviction.
But Brady gets away with it again. I suspect that he will be booed heartily at every away game, with chants of "cheater! cheater!" People will want to let him know that despite the judges ruling, that they think he is guilty, and want to wipe away that Patriot arrogance and attitude that they are smarter than everyone else and can get away with anything and laugh about it.
Americans are very forgiving. Martha Stewart was/is a bitch and people were happy to see her get sent away, but having served her time gracefully, she is better liked by some than before her conviction.
But Brady gets away with it again. I suspect that he will be booed heartily at every away game, with chants of "cheater! cheater!" People will want to let him know that despite the judges ruling, that they think he is guilty, and want to wipe away that Patriot arrogance and attitude that they are smarter than everyone else and can get away with anything and laugh about it.
To preemptively shoot down anyone who thinks deflating footballs isn't a big deal because it doesn't really affect a QB's ability to throw:
It's not about a QB better throwing a ball, it's about players being able to not fumble the ball. When the rule went into effect that visiting teams could provide their own game balls on offense, the Pats' fumbles suddenly dropped to the best level in the league and remained there, and even players who were great at not fumbling on the Pats saw their numbers normalize when they went to other teams. Every fan knows how important turnover margin is, and the Pats have been amazing at it, not for the whole Brady/Belichick era, but only since 2006 when visiting teams could use their own balls. This is why this type of cheating matters.
It's not about a QB better throwing a ball, it's about players being able to not fumble the ball. When the rule went into effect that visiting teams could provide their own game balls on offense, the Pats' fumbles suddenly dropped to the best level in the league and remained there, and even players who were great at not fumbling on the Pats saw their numbers normalize when they went to other teams. Every fan knows how important turnover margin is, and the Pats have been amazing at it, not for the whole Brady/Belichick era, but only since 2006 when visiting teams could use their own balls. This is why this type of cheating matters.
This is the problem with the suspension. If you suspend Brady, you have to suspend all the running backs and receivers as well, because they had the same benefit. You can't use the argument that Brady was the one doing it. Just as you can't accept that the ball boys were doing this without Brady's knowledge, you also can't accept that Brady was doing this without the skill players' knowledge.
I heard an interview with James Harrison the other day. He was very articulate explaining that the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the League and the Player's Association ALLOWS for these kind of decisions and suspensions. His point was that he would be very surprised if a judge came in and overturned it because of that. I just think it serves as s dangerous precedent going forward.
well obviously it is an issue or it wouldn't be discussed, appealed, ruled on, appealed again, taken to a court, 8 months after the fact..
It does pittgirl...So what good is the commisoner if he cant do his job? I think the end result today was complete bullcrap!! If this was a nobody qb or even Big Ben he's got a suspension no doubt.
Smizik: Tom Brady Exonerated: NFL Humiliated
Vindication is New England's. Vindication is Tom Brady's.
And the bullying NFL walks away from its worst hour in utter disgrace.
Vindication is New England's. Vindication is Tom Brady's.
And the bullying NFL walks away from its worst hour in utter disgrace.
I believe that if you cheat to win a title, you should be stripped of that title and there was no talk of that just a mere 4 game suspensionSmizik: Tom Brady Exonerated: NFL Humiliated
Vindication is New England's. Vindication is Tom Brady's.
And the bullying NFL walks away from its worst hour in utter disgrace.
Just for the record, Martavis Bryant didn't get suspended for smoking weed months before the season starts. He got suspended for four games for flunking a drug test at least once during the season, and then flunking a second one, and then flunking a third one, and then flunking a fourth one. Because you don't get tested in the off season when Bryant did (the last time) unless you are in the testing program for flunking a test during the season (or in the preseason), and you don't get suspended for four game until you have flunked your FOURTH drug test.
If you flunk four drug tests in what would amount to about 6-8 months you ought to get suspended for four games just for being a dumbass.
Meh....Stillers were gonna get boatraced all day without Brady anyway....
As to the collective barging agreement I heard an equally eloquent explanation for the Judges ruling that basically boiled down to nothing being explicitly written about deflating balls ...also that according to their own rules a warning must be given prior to suspension....I dont personally know what their rules are...but this kind of makes sense when discussing the weed argument...obviously more than one warning was given there...I can see where Bradys lawyers could have built a compelling arguement...and I guess after the judges ruling that's exactly what they did.
As to the collective barging agreement I heard an equally eloquent explanation for the Judges ruling that basically boiled down to nothing being explicitly written about deflating balls ...also that according to their own rules a warning must be given prior to suspension....I dont personally know what their rules are...but this kind of makes sense when discussing the weed argument...obviously more than one warning was given there...I can see where Bradys lawyers could have built a compelling arguement...and I guess after the judges ruling that's exactly what they did.
