OT: Chris Cornell died

[Darth_VadEER]

Great - I have a ton of work that needs done, but I check Rivals and find a discussion on Cornell and other bands. My day is basically ruined now, thanks! I might as well crack a beer.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Guns and roses and Metallica as well.

Lots of great music now, too.
And I love Chicago , hall and Oates, and mo-town.
Anything but modern country- really, though Chris Stapleton is pretty good

I saw Guns N Roses in PGH last summer, it was awesome.

That band is the reason rock died. They perfected it in their short run and there was no one else like them to carry on. Moving on to the Seattle scene was natural.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

What you guys have isn't new....

For 100's of years people believe the way did it was better, the music was better, this generation sucks:......blah.

Your kids will be saying it about their kids some day.

Fact is 90's will be remembered as a very strong decade for music. Much stronger then the two decades that preceded it as well as the decade that followed it.

Pearl Jam, red hot chili peppers, DMB, etc will all stand the test of time imo

I disagree with that. The 80's was full of bands that were great and even the pop was rooted by someone like Prince, who was an incredibly talented musician. Even the lower end bands were pretty talented.

You're correct that the 90's were much stronger than what we have now or had in the early 2000's. The bands are mostly gone. Rock is mostly gone.

The incredible thing about Pearl Jam is that they barely did music videos during the prime years of MTV, avoided interviews, fought ticket master, ect., and still become so popular - their music was so overwhelming they couldn't be ignored.

Nirvana liked to play the "we hate doing interviews and being famous" card, but yet every time you turned on MTV there they were - doing interviews, having videos.

Temple of The Dog Hunger Strike is a beautiful song. I loved Cornell's shrill vocals at the end.

That generation of music is almost dead, which makes me feel old. I resisted them for a long time because I was so loyal to Gun's N Roses and that scene, but guys like Cornell, Vedder, and Layne Staley were beautiful musicians.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

untrue in my case....I referenced music from before I was born. Hey, play sing sing sing from Benny Goodman...play some Sinatra...great stuff and stands the test of time....ask twenty people who Chris Cornell is and you might get five hits...Ask the same twenty about Bob Seger or Tom Petty or comparable Steve Perry and see how many hits you get. You like it great but it sure as hell does not have the popularity or impart the joy that music once did.

Yeah, and if you ask 20 people who Brittany Spears is, all 20 will probably know.....she must be the greatest musician of all time!

 

[Darth_VadEER]

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

I have to chuckle a little at Pearl Jam. They broke with "Alive" and DVE (the most corporate of corporate rock stations) was all over it. They seemed relieved that a group had emerged to break the Poison / Ratt / Warrant logjam that even DVE couldn't bring it self to play in its rotation. But then Pearl Jam followed with more grungy, angsty stuff like "Jeremy" and then of course they were reclassifed to the "X". In fact their emergence likely are why the "X" got carved out. They couldn't co-exist with the Kansas and Molly Hatchet fans on DVE.

I disagree with that. The 80's was full of bands that were great and even the pop was rooted by someone like Prince, who was an incredibly talented musician. Even the lower end bands were pretty talented.

You're correct that the 90's were much stronger than what we have now or had in the early 2000's. The bands are mostly gone. Rock is mostly gone.

The incredible thing about Pearl Jam is that they barely did music videos during the prime years of MTV, avoided interviews, fought ticket master, ect., and still become so popular - their music was so overwhelming they couldn't be ignored.

Nirvana liked to play the "we hate doing interviews and being famous" card, but yet every time you turned on MTV there they were - doing interviews, having videos.

Temple of The Dog Hunger Strike is a beautiful song. I loved Cornell's shrill vocals at the end.

That generation of music is almost dead, which makes me feel old. I resisted them for a long time because I was so loyal to Gun's N Roses and that scene, but guys like Cornell, Vedder, and Layne Staley were beautiful musicians.

This is an example ... every era had something good that gets lost in the shuffle. The 80's gets denigrated because all people remember are cheesy the songs that got over played (slow Phil Collins ballads, Culture Club, etc). Meanwhile there were loads of outstanding 80's acts. The Cure, The Cult, Echo & The Bunnymen, Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson, New Order, the Replacements, OMD, XTC, Siouxsie and The Banshees, the Psych Furs. Apparently Jan Wenner didn't dig those types because they never get even a casual spit in their direction for the R&R Hall of Fame (and it's a travesty the Cars never have made the cut). But they continue to be in my mix. As are some from the 50s, 60's, 70's, 90's and 00's (the Tom Petty Sirius channel made me aware of very cool 50's and 60's blues acts I never knew about).

Some of the above had a token hit that got played a bit to death ... but as often is the case, their hit overshadowed much better material. I can't bear to hear Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares To U" (referenced in the thread above) one more time due to the relentless exposure it got on MTV and commercial radio ... and certainly she's a strange bird for sure ... but actually has some other cool songs ("Mandinka" in particular).

And I have a soft spot for local groups that were around when I was young and hit the clubs ... yeah, there's Donnie Iris and the Clarks (who both really were outstanding to hear live), but others like Bill Deasy/Gathering Field, Affordable Floors, Joe Grushecky and the Houserockers. Snuck down to Pittsburgh and into the Decade when I was...too young, all I'll say...to see the latter. You might hear Joe G. songs on a KDKA or Day Automotive ad today and scoff, but that guy and his group were amazing to be a part of in that time and that setting. You aren't a Pittsburgher IMO if you haven't seen/heard them perform "Pumping Iron Sweating Steel" in a too-crowded dive with water (you hope) dripping on your head from the pipes overhead.