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OT: Demolished Pittsburgh buildings

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A while back, I created a thread about hypothetical building constructions in Pittsburgh that never happened. How about a few architectural gems that are no longer in the city? The Lower Hill District and former sports venues (Forbes, Pitt Stadium) are common answers, but a few of my favorites:

Wabash Pittsburgh Terminal (Gateway Center today)
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Exposition Hall (Point State Park today… early convention center. Look at that rollercoaster!)
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Allegheny Market House (Allegheny Center today… akin to Cleveland’s West Side Market)
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Schenley Park Casino (Frick Fine Arts building today… home to the world’s first artificial ice surface)
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Any others come to mind?
 
I feel like Syria Mosque is a very common answer.

I personally loved the Civic Arena and wish Duquesne could have done something with it (such as taking out the upper decks to make the roof retractable again) as its sports facility instead of renovating the Palumbo Center, but I know financially it would not have made sense.
 
I feel like Syria Mosque is a very common answer.

I personally loved the Civic Arena and wish Duquesne could have done something with it (such as taking out the upper decks to make the roof retractable again) as its sports facility instead of renovating the Palumbo Center, but I know financially it would not have made sense.
It was definitely the most popular answer on here for a while when they were looking to redevelop the site… I think one or two on-campus stadiums were proposed there. ;)

As for the Civic Arena site, I agree that it should’ve been preserved in some way. There’s no reason why they couldn’t have capped the highway and developed the Lower Hill around the Igloo. My personal favorite idea was to turn it into a hotel, amphitheater, and park; renderings can be found here.
 
The market house is such a shame. I’ve been to the west side market in Cleveland and it is fantastic, and most cities seem
To have a similar market house we don’t have.
I will say that the renaissance era Pittsburgh underwent post-WWII was necessary, and I LOVE The Point today, but I wish we would’ve done a better job at preserving some of those masterpieces.

At least we have something similar still with the Strip, although that’s become its own different thing in recent years (and nothing wrong with that; it used to be pretty desolate over there).
 
I will say that the renaissance era Pittsburgh underwent post-WWII was necessary, and I LOVE The Point today, but I wish we would’ve done a better job at preserving some of those masterpieces.

At least we have something similar still with the Strip, although that’s become its own different thing in recent years (and nothing wrong with that; it used to be pretty desolate over there).
What smarter cities have done when buildings are no longer adequate to serve their purpose is to preserve the facades as to retain the character of the building and neighborhood, but build a thoroughly modern facility that exists behind the facade, sometimes with additional floors set back just enough so it not to interfere with the historic context from a street level view.

There are many examples where Pitt, in particular, has failed to take the architectural character of the neighborhood and campus into account. Not that Pitt hasn't done some amazing preservation work, like the the interior of the Schenley Hotel (aka William Pitt Union) and the Masonic Temple (aka Alumni Hall), but completely failed on some other things (e.g., the Logan Armory, globing the SRCC onto Thaw Hall's main entrance which had its most prominent architectural features, etc), and it threatens to demolish the Central Turnverein (aka the Gardner Steel Conference Center) and Concordia Club (aka O'Hara St Student Center). For every good decision, like renovating Schenley Quad to be pedestrian only, there seems to be a dumb one like removing more historically sensitive street lamps from around the William Pitt Union. The frustrating thing for me is that anyone that visits other universities sees examples of other schools incorporating and preserving their historic buildings into more more modern facilities all the time, and they usually end up being very special spaces on those campuses, but no, let's demo the Concordia Club at Pitt and build a generic modern office structure on top. Like what moron architect would even sign off on that for just being presented in a public proposal?

And why on earth can't Pitt get some uplighting on its historic buildings at night. Fine, don't want to leave them on all night if one is so worried about the electricity costs or some eco nonsense, turn them off at midnight or 3am or something, but my lord, they won't even turn on the existing uplighting on the Pittsburgh Athletic Club building when they bought it, which I've heard many unprompted (non Pitt people) comment at night on how cool the building was. Pitt has such awesome buildings and uplighting at night would really work well to highlight their features in ways that are completely different than during the daytime. I mean, they did add some uplighting to the Schenley Quad dorms, which is good, but there is absolutely nothing on the Cathedral's gothic features. And it just makes the streets so dark at night when there is nothing (the difference on 5th Ave when the PAA used its uplighting compared to when you walked in front of Alumni Hall next door was striking). I really don't understand some of the decisions, and I know they don't seem to be honest about some of their explanations ("oh, we didn't know the Croation Fraternal Building was historic"...like you couldn't tell from just looking at it....these are supposedly architects for jebbus sake)).
 
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The market house is such a shame. I’ve been to the west side market in Cleveland and it is fantastic, and most cities seem
To have a similar market house we don’t have.
But we do have the Strip District which is like an outdoor market. But I agree, the West Side Market trumps anything we have here, even though they have started to populate that warehouse along Smallman street again.
 
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What smarter cities have done when buildings are no longer adequate to serve their purpose is to preserve the facades as to retain the character of the building and neighborhood, but build a thoroughly modern facility that exist behind the facade, sometimes with additional floors set back just enough so it not to interfere with the historic context from a street level view.

There are many examples where Pitt, in particular, has failed to take the architectural character of the neighborhood and campus into account. Not that Pitt hasn't done some amazing preservation work, like the the interior of the Schenley Hotel (aka William Pitt Union) and the Masonic Temple (aka Alumni Hall), but completely failed on some other things (e.g., the Logan Armory, globing the SRCC onto Thaw Hall's main entrance which had its most prominent architectural features, etc), and it threatens to demolish the Central Turnverein (aka the Gardner Steel Conference Center) and Concordia Club (aka O'Hara St Student Center). For every good decision, like renovating Schenley Quad to be pedestrian only, there seems to be a dumb one like removing more historically sensitive street lamps from around the William Pitt Union. The frustrating thing for me is that anyone that visits other universities sees examples of other schools incorporating and preserving their historic buildings into more more modern facilities all the time, and they usually end up being very special spaces on those campuses, but no, let's demo the Concordia Club at Pitt and build a generic modern office structure on top. Like what moron architect would even sign off on that for just being presented in a public proposal?

And why on earth can't Pitt get some uplighting on its historic buildings at night. Fine, don't want to leave them on all night if one is so worried about the electricity costs or some eco nonsense, turn them off at mignight or 3am or something, but my lord, they won't even turn on the existing uplighting on the Pittsburgh Athletic Club building when they bought it, which I've heard many unprompted (non Pitt people) comment at night on how cool the building was. Pitt has such awesome buildings and uplighting at night would really work well to highlight their features in ways that are completely different than during the daytime. I mean, they did add some uplighting to the Schenley Quad dorms, which is good, but there is absolutely nothing on the Cathedral's gothic features. And it just makes the streets so dark at night when there is nothing (the difference on 5th Ave when the PAA used its uplighting compared to when you walked in front of Alumni Hall next door was striking). I really don't understand some of the decisions, and I know they don't seem to be honest about some of their explanations ("oh, we didn't know the Croation Fraternal Building was historic"...like you couldn't tell from just looking at it....these are supposedly architects for jebbus sake)).
Great post. There are several other examples of this happening downtown with the Old Post Office Building, the Carnegie Building, and the First National Bank Building.

Perhaps my favorite case was the Farmers Bank Building, which was torn down in favor of the low-rise Lazarus department store that didn’t even last that long. It’s now the Piatt Place, which is nice but nothing compared to the original high rise building.
 
Great post. There are several other examples of this happening downtown with the Old Post Office Building, the Carnegie Building, and the First National Bank Building.

Perhaps my favorite case was the Farmers Bank Building, which was torn down in favor of the low-rise Lazarus department store that didn’t even last that long. It’s now the Piatt Place, which is nice but nothing compared to the original high rise building.
The Farmers bank building was really destroyed when the resurfaced it. When it was demoed there wasn't much left of the style or detailing that makes the original version such a loss. I guess the lesson being, you don't need to tear down a building to ruin it.
 
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