News Flash!!!!:: Kenny Pickett is NO better than Mason Rudolph was yet he’s allowed to throw less td’s, have a lower qb rating with BETTER receivers and backs, and never gets benched for bad play while Mason was benched after 6 bad quarters of football. That is what the Steelers wasted assets on. Trubisky signed and drafting Kenny when you could’ve had Lindenbaum. I want someone to explain for me why Kenny can be worse but never gets called out like Ben and Mason got called out for poor play?? When Kenny sucks its “ the line is bad” or “Canada sucks” or “ his receivers don’t get separation “……..but when Ben played bad it was “ Ben‘s arm is shot “ or Ben just can’t run anymore”.When Mason sucked Mason got ALL the blame, not the fact that Fikner had only been a OC at Arkansas State and had no QB coach his FIRST 2 YEARS in the NFL!!!! Nepotism at its best!!!! Because Mike Tomlin “likes “ Kenny and he can run he can suck has much as he wants. Mike Tomlin gots to go!!!!!! I want him gone!!!!! His Nepotism is killing this franchise and the Rodney’s are complicit in this.
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Kenny gets a ton of hate, and I think it’s unfair. Just as it was unfair for Mason.
That said, I think Kenny has more upside than Mason because he has more athleticism and more moxy and presumably more of the work rate. But yeah, both guys have had similar production and it’s largely due to limited resources around them.
Mason got a short hook for sure, honestly, if and likely WHEN they pull Kenny, i'd rather see them go with Mason than Mitch. They wont but i think they'd have better success..
you arent going to get much hate or even realistic criticism on Kenny PIckett on a pitt message board. He was 98% of the reason we had our most successful season you wont get much hate on here..
you arent going to get much hate or even realistic criticism on Kenny PIckett on a pitt message board. He was 98% of the reason we had our most successful season you wont get much hate on here..
I think the only people in the world who like Mason Rudolph are on this board. If he was any good wouldn’t another team have at least tried to sign him as a backup? Or tried to trade for him? It only takes one and there are no takers. He isn’t the answer here or anywhere else. Neither is Trubisky. If KP busts its back to the drawing board.
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Yeah well I’m not necessarily disagreeing with this. Just saying if it’s not Kenny, I’d rather try out Mason over Mitch.
I don’t think Mason or trebisky were getting too many phone calls or job offers.
Not feeling confident on any of our qbs, including #8.
Same thing team said about Josh Dobbs and Geno Smith…… coaches are lazy. They don’t want to have to spend extra time actually developing a player and the coaches that are good teachers that develop players those are the guys who end up becoming the highest most sought after coaches. Teaching is a lost art in coaching today. Quarterback play in the NFL is the worst it’s ever been and it’s because there are only three or four quarterback coaches in the league. Misevaluation has been a huge thing in the NFL. The fact that they thought Anthony Richardson is a top-five pick up and that teams also thought Baker Mayfield was better than Josh Allen shows you where the heads of the scouts and GM’s are at. I guarantee that if Mason Rudolph would’ve been a quarterback last year. The Steelers would’ve made the playoffs. But the reason why these guys are miss evaluate it is because the coaches can’t properly assess strengths and weaknesses so that they can therefore drift guys that fit their system. It’s why everybody thinks Kyle Shanahan is this guru, when in fact, he just simply knows how to evaluate a quarterback to run his system. It’s a lost art. And it’s because of how they’ve made college offenses simplistic so that they just rely on their athletes and now guys don’t know how to play the quarterback position. There really isn’t that much of a difference between the guys who are second and third string, and the starters now. I get angry about it because there’s a lot of coaches who sabotage a lot of kids careers because of nepotism and laziness. Think about how Ben Roethlisberger didn’t start in high school until his senior year because the coaches son started? He got lucky because he was able to put out some film and get some offers but I believe there’s a lot of guys like that and then they just give up on football. So I’m very passionate about guys getting screwed out of jobs and opportunities because of incompetent coaching.
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They can draft or sign 100 more QBs and unless they are someone magical like Mahones, they are going to stink with the Steelers OL. It blows. Perhaps all three of these guys all suck (I actually think Mitch does indeed suck) but it’s more, far far more, the OL
Pickett gets excuses made for him. So does Najee and Tomlin as well. There are others on the team too. They also all get a lot of criticism and if you aren't seeing it, you are choosing to ignore it.
I was not a Tomlin basher until a couple years ago, but looking back at his time as head coach, I think overall he has underachieved. Yes, it's amazing that he has never had a losing season,but 3 playoff wins in 12 years? Those 3 wins include a game in Cincinnati, that dumb and dumber gave us, kicking 6 field goals to beat Kansas City and beating a bad Miami team. The current 4 game playoff losing streak is a different story.
Now as far as the Steelers not paying coordinators. I have a very different opinion. Many people think the Rooney's are going the cheap way out. The Steelers spend to the cap every year, so you mean to tell me they couldn't afford an extra 1.5-2 mil to pay for better assistants? I think the problem lies with coach catch phrase. I don't think Tomlin wants bigger egos on the coaching staff. Yes, he has had a few bigger names, but some of the garbage on the staff (OC) are no names he brought in.
This is just how I view things
Obviously people reading this thread know that I’m not a Tomlin basher. But I’m certainly not a cheerleader either. Yes he’s had non losing seasons but he’s also had non winning seasons. Like, what’s the difference? It’s the most forced and made up accomplishment that people use to elevate who he is as a coach. People, especially nationally, who hold him at this elite standard, are overlooking his entire body of work and certainly have no objectivity. It’s kinda like Jamie Dixon. There was JD#1 and then JD#2. The success that Tomlin had early in his career has nothing to do with today. None. Kenny Pickett was in elementary school when Tomlin peaked. The game is different now.
Nationally maybe, but at this point locally the only people who bring up the no losing seasons thing are the people who use it as a part of their way to bash Tomlin.
I cannot remember the last time anyone in western PA used the "he's never had a losing season" thing as something to show that Tomlin is doing a great job. It simply does not happen anymore, and hasn't for a while now.
Only Tomlin's biggest supporters use that. You're right, though. It's rarely used among Steelers fans because we want playoff wins, not non-losing seasons.
I tend to think that locals that bash Tomlin are the same exact people that once bashed Jamie Dixon. People who have lost track of the general idea that it is really hard to even be average every year over a decade, let alone having runs where a team is excellent during that period. Unreal expectations really.
Tomlin certainly has warts (some of the in-game coaching along with the lack of playoff success in the last 10 years), but it is very, very hard to deny the consistency and that non-losing season thing really illustrates how consistent he has been over time. Some of those 8-8, 9-7 teams underachieved, but a few certainly overachieved as well. And, since Antonio Brown and LeVeon Bell went bonkers mentally at the same time (which by the way, it is amazing he was able to keep those guys and Roethlisberger happy as long as he was able, because they all were nightmares at times to deal with), they have been essentially rebuilding yet still winning/competitive.
Only Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll out of the tenured coaches in the NFL can say that they have not had a season where the bottom fell out (and it looks like Belichick is finally going through one now). The consistency has been amazing, without question.
Tomlin is a top 20 all-time NFL coach by basically every measurable statistic. He may even be a top 10 all-time NFL coach by this people if things are broken down year by year. And, he carries that level of respect around football outside of some loons that root for Pittsburgh. Just like with Jamie Dixon, those who wish him gone have completely lost any sense of reality as to what is likely to come next (this is buttressed by the fact that the Steelers have had a 50 year run of choosing excellent head coaches, so what is excellent has become normalized largely).
Our OL coaching is clearly a problem .
Even green looked solid prior to his injury
Have you read this board? Last week there was a thread and I swear there had to be 8-10 different posters using the non losing season thing to justify his greatness.
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